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Putting the best team on the field =/= selling the *good* players in your doghouse off for pennies on the dollar.
Sorry Ozzie. Your doghouse got emptied but the Sox didn't get better in neither the short nor the long term.
Posted by: melonis rex | February 22, 2009 at 06:45 PM
Oh yeah. Jeff Marquez apparantly reminds scouts of Jon Garland. Yeah, the Sox got better long term, when you realize that Garland is not a good pitcher.
And I actually like South Side Sox's comp system.
Posted by: melonis rex | February 22, 2009 at 06:55 PM
mcpherson wants 500 abs? thats cute. this mcpherson? http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/stats/individual_stats_player.jsp?playerID=425774&statType=1
hes already had 4 chances to shine at the major league level and hasnt.
im glad you think a good minor league season at almost 30 is deserving of a starting job in mlb. yeah you hit 42 homers but you still only hit .275 in AAA and couldnt muster an obp of over .400 even with the power. if minor league pitchers 5-10 years younger arent scared to pitch to you, who will be?
Posted by: elmedius | February 22, 2009 at 07:12 PM
Poor O-Dog signs for just over $3 million guaranteed when he could have had $24 million. At least he and new teammate Randy Wolf can now argue who is this generation's Jody Reed.
Posted by: vtadave | February 22, 2009 at 07:32 PM
Smoltz...come on man. Braves needed to get younger. I'll admit they could have gone about it a different way. Signing glavine and anderson are just pointless. This team will finish no better then third in their division. Wren came in at a bad time. Players like smoltz, glavine, C.Jones, Andruw Jones declining or getting old. He rocked it with the renteria trade. He blew it with the kotsay trade. Kotchman is a push for now. But what these older players need to understand is that they are old! I love smoltz always will but at some point the braves have to move on just like he did. Why pour salt on the wound?
This team might be dangerous in a few years.
C Mccann
1b Kotchman
2b johnson
ss escobar
3b ?
rf francouer
cf shaffer
lf heyward
Hudson
Jurjenns
Hanson
lowe
Posted by: joemorgan=#1 | February 22, 2009 at 07:55 PM
This is from the O'Brien article on Burnett:
"I knew ahead of time where I wanted to go," Burnett said, "or at least I had a pretty good idea."
Funny, there were reports out of the Winter Meetings that the Braves were really confident about signing him.
It certainly looks like with the new regime the Braves were the popular choice for driving up the price of free agents.
Posted by: new here | February 22, 2009 at 07:56 PM
Vtadave -- i think i was around 6 or 7 years old when jody reed turned down that contract, so i barely remember it, and i barely remember him. But thats a very good comparison. This was by far one of the more interesting off-seasons with how market economics changed so drastically from beginning to end. Wasnt O-dog looking for 4/50 or something like that?
Posted by: metsknicksrutgers | February 22, 2009 at 08:35 PM
"Wasnt O-dog looking for 4/50 or something like that?"
Yeah, he was, but it even when that first came out, it seemed absurd to most people. Obviously the DBacks felt that way too.
Posted by: yanksfan | February 22, 2009 at 09:12 PM
elmedius- I agree that 40 and 61 game are enough opportunities, but do you really consider seasons of 16 and 11 games opportunities to prove himself at the major league level?!!?! 500ABs is ridiculous for Dallas McPherson, but he should get much bigger chance to produce at the big league level. just a couple of years ago this guys was an up and coming slugger
Posted by: redsox2007 | February 22, 2009 at 09:14 PM
sox07, does he really deserve another chance?
to make a comparison... your 09 sox have jeff bailey and john van every that are both about the same age as mcpherson... id personally say they both had better OVERALL 2008 seasons than mcpherson did. you dont think they wouldnt kill to have played in 100 mlb games by now?
128 games is a pretty good example of what kind of a player youre going to be.. ecspecially over 4 different seasons considering he was probably called up HOT.
he's going to get another chance because of the team he plays for... but not because he deserves it. the sox version of chris carter and the two i mentioned before are bigger victims of not enough opportunities to shine than mcpherson is.
sympathize with them...
Posted by: elmedius | February 22, 2009 at 09:34 PM
I guess 5 hour meetings with a video and song dedicated to you, along with your franchise player pleading with you to come to his team doesn't work for everyone...well, maybe only for derrek lowe - who absolutely robbed the braves - the same braves their fans are making the case that they want to get younger and healthier all while resigning glavine, going after furcal and aj, and signing dlowe until he is 40, oh and also in negotiations to lock chipper up until hes done for good, all while not pulling the trigger on jake peavy - wow -- bravos85 i want to hear your take on what your franchise has become man
Posted by: wright is my boy | February 22, 2009 at 09:44 PM
""I'm not going to make any qualms about it," McPherson said. "I'm here to win a starting job. Being in the big leagues and coming off the bench to help a team is better than being in Triple-A. Making this club is the number one goal, but make no doubt about it, I'm here to win a [starting] job. I want 500 at-bats.""
I don't see where he said he deserves to have a starting job. Actually, it seems like he said all the right things about playing from the bench if need be but still being hungry for more. Isn't that what you'd want to hear from him? Would you rather he say he doesn't deserve to be there? I think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Bailey has been good for one year of his minor league career while McPherson has raked at every stop except The Show. There's a difference. Van Every's never topped a .881 OPS at AAA. I'm sure there are better comparisons than those out there though.
Posted by: pinetarhand | February 22, 2009 at 09:55 PM
true enough pinetar. and you make some very valid points. but since his name is sox related i tried to stick to "prospects" he'd definitely know.
are you still a prospect at 28?
but to tell you the truth mchpherson is just one of those players ive never really cared for, so ill admit i am a little biased here. but yeah he is saying the right things. stuff id like to hear more guys say... the kind of stuff odalis perez should be saying.
Posted by: elmedius | February 22, 2009 at 10:10 PM
elmedius I guess thats true. I guess what I'm saying is I never have been that convinced of Mcpherson, but maybe he has somethin left that we havent seen yet. anyways...can't hurt to atleast throw him on the bench. 42 homers is 42 homers in my book
Posted by: redsox2007 | February 22, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Disregard everything ozzie guillen ever says ever. He is bats_hit insane.
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | February 23, 2009 at 02:35 AM
wright is my boy,
Clearly you're a Mets fan that doesn't like the Braves, but come on man. First, you seem to insult the Braves for trying to convince players to take less money to play for them by using creative methods (i.e. Alan Jackson's song)...Not every GM has the freedom of an Omar Minaya when it comes to offering free agents contracts. Second, Lowe's only signed until he's 39 and he's coming off of 4 straight years of good #2 to adequate #1 production, with last year being the 2nd best of his career. He's clearly a far superior pitcher to Oliver Perez and has actually proven that he can be worth his new salary over the course of his career. As a starter, Lowe has been worth over 15 MM (his salary) 3 times, has never been worth less than 9 MM, and has an average value of over 14 MM. Compare that to Perez, who has been worth over 12 MM (his salary) just once...in fact he's been worth over 9 MM just once. Did I mention he has 2 years with negative value and an average value under 5 MM over the past 5 years? You're right though, it was Lowe that robbed the Braves.
Now, since you clearly don't understand the Braves plan to get younger, let me try and explain it slowly to you. The Braves are planning on using their own prospects to fill their long term holes. While they may not be ready yet, they have a bunch of guys who should be ready to contribute within the next year or two. At that point, you will see older short term fixes like Garret Anderson, Diaz, Glavine, and Vazquez replaced by the younger prospects from the Braves system. This would not have been possible if the Braves emptied their systems to trade for a guy like Peavy.
You really want to hear a fan's take on what the Braves have become? How have they changed? They have rarely ever relied on free agency (this year was an exception) and have always tried to develop their own talent. That's exactly what they are doing now by refusing to trade young prospects for a guy like Peavy when they can get Lowe for similar money without any cost in terms of prospects.
Posted by: nixa37 | February 23, 2009 at 08:18 AM
".well, maybe only for derrek lowe - who absolutely robbed the braves - "
Let's see. A guy who puts up consistent #1-2 production, has put up 180+ IP almost every year of his career, for 20MM cheaper than AJ Burnett, who is an inferior pitcher when you factor in injury risk.
"I guess 5 hour meetings with a video and song dedicated to you, along with your franchise player pleading with you to come to his team doesn't work for everyone..."
It's called business. Being creative to minimize costs is actually a good thing.
"all while not pulling the trigger on jake peavy "
You mean not trading a really, really good, YOUNG, and cheap SS for Peavy? Just because his name isn't Jimmy Rollins or Jose Reyes doesn't mean he's not a VERY good SS.
Posted by: melonis rex | February 23, 2009 at 08:48 AM
Oh. Jake Peavy is an injury risk.
Posted by: melonis rex | February 23, 2009 at 08:48 AM
The Braves lineup should include McCann, Freeman, Johnson, Escobar, Hicks, and three of Heyward, Schafer, Francoeur, Jones, and Gorkys within a couple years, and the rotation should include Hanson, Jurejens, Rohrbrough and Locke, not to mention Julio Teheran, who's upside is massive.
As for the White Sox, I think some here know already, but I hated their offseason. They sold low on two very good players that just happened to be unable to mesh well with Ozzie. Then they took all that saved money, and spent none of it despite the good buyers market. They're going into next season with question marks at third (Fields), second (Lillibridge/Getz), center (Owens) and in the rotation (Colon, Richard). This team is not improved.
Posted by: scribbletone | February 23, 2009 at 08:52 AM
nixa... wright is my boy is 11 years old and doesn't even know what the minor leagues are. Don't mind him.
Posted by: nrmax88 | February 23, 2009 at 10:07 AM