![]() |
|
|
| |
« Phillies Set Franchise Payroll Record | Main | Borowski Hangs Up The Spikes »
According to MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan, the Rangers plan to embark on long-term contract discussions with Josh Hamilton's agents later this spring.
Tim suggested last week that Dustin Pedroia's six-year, $40.5MM extension could be a model for the Rangers and Hamilton's representatives, as both players have two years of MLB service time. Hamilton, 27, went nuts last season, finishing with a line of .304/.371/.530. He also blasted 32 home runs and racked up 130 RBI.
This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.
As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.
Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.


|
|
Who is the Rangers top five prospects?
Posted by: Braves for NL East!! | February 24, 2009 at 06:58 PM
Definitely lock him up. He's a guy Texas can build a lineup around. Even if they're rebuilding, they should be good as at some point in a 4-6 year contract.
Posted by: Umair | February 24, 2009 at 07:07 PM
Who is the Rangers top five prospects?
Posted by: Braves for NL East!! | February 24, 2009 at 06:58 PM
They're all catchers, that's all I know.
Do the Rangers even have full minor league teams...?
I'm going to say no and assume they just have catchers playing every position.
Posted by: venn177 | February 24, 2009 at 07:30 PM
Hamilton is a stud but doesn't it make sense for TEX to make him prove it for another season?
Afterall, we are talking about a guy who just a couple of years ago still dealing with past "issues".
Posted by: sp_da_man | February 24, 2009 at 07:31 PM
Rangers have some damn good pitching prospects...
I slightly disagree with the Pedroia comparison. I can see more of a 4 year, 38-42 million dollar deal.
Posted by: UGotRPK3113 | February 24, 2009 at 07:31 PM
They're not all catchers. That's silly. 1) Neftali Perez - RHP. 2) Justin Smoak - 1B. 3) Derek Holland - LHP. 4) Elvis Andrus - SS. 5) Taylor Teagarden - C.
Posted by: PWHjort | February 24, 2009 at 07:43 PM
the mets need to trade for josh hamilton he is a lefty but could be a good bat and delgado is gone after this season we need a bat im thinking jon neise plus they give us hank blalock which would be good cuz we are taking on their salary who knowns maybe blalock can be productive. obv we would need to give up more than neise maybe we could put in fernando martinez nd jj puts who could close for texas
Posted by: metsin09 | February 24, 2009 at 07:45 PM
I agree with the Pedroia comparison...we would lock him up for six years for cheap considering he keeps up his production from last year.
And I doubt the rangers have the best farm system only because of their catchers, they are deep with top prospects at every position except for third base.
Posted by: JH32 | February 24, 2009 at 07:46 PM
"Who is the Rangers top five prospects?
Posted by: Braves for NL East!! | February 24, 2009 at 06:58 PM
They're all catchers, that's all I know."
Wrong.
1. Neftali Feliz - SP
2. Justin Smoak - 1B
3. Derek Holland - SP
4. Michael Main - SP
5. Elvis Andrus - SS
6. Taylor Teagarden - C
None of them are catchers.
Posted by: melonis rex | February 24, 2009 at 07:48 PM
"the mets need to trade for josh hamilton he is a lefty but could be a good bat and delgado is gone after this season we need a bat im thinking jon neise plus they give us hank blalock which would be good cuz we are taking on their salary who knowns maybe blalock can be productive. obv we would need to give up more than neise maybe we could put in fernando martinez nd jj puts who could close for texas"
The Mets don't get Hamilton unless they give up Mike Pelfrey.
Which, might actually make Texas better in the long run, as Pelfrey is a groundball pitcher and the Rangers can manufacture/grow hitters really, really well. And both are controlled for a long period of time.
Posted by: melonis rex | February 24, 2009 at 07:50 PM
Metsin09,
What the hell?! There's no way they trade Hamilton, so quit dreamin and coming up with random trades. Sheez...
Posted by: Braves for NL East!! | February 24, 2009 at 07:55 PM
IMO the Rangers will win the AL West
Posted by: Braves for NL East!! | February 24, 2009 at 07:58 PM
"IMO the Rangers will win the AL West"
The Rangers have zero pitching at the MLB level. The A's and Angels are clearly better teams, as they're better stocked at the MLB level.
Where's the MLBtr poster who wanted to create a time machine to reverse the Teixeira trade, btw? ;-)
Posted by: melonis rex | February 24, 2009 at 08:00 PM
"the mets need to trade for josh hamilton he is a lefty but could be a good bat and delgado is gone after this season we need a bat im thinking jon neise plus they give us hank blalock which would be good cuz we are taking on their salary who knowns maybe blalock can be productive. obv we would need to give up more than neise maybe we could put in fernando martinez nd jj puts who could close for texas"
:rofl:
And to melonis rex, you think Pelfrey is going to get Hamilton?
Hamilton is to the Rangers (already) what Wright/Reyes are to the Mets - fan favorite, butts in the seats, merchandise, untouchable.
Sure, I bet the Rangers would deal him, but you'd have to empty the farm - try Pelfrey+Maine+Martinez.
Posted by: V | February 24, 2009 at 08:01 PM
It would take more than the Braves paid for Teixeira for the Mets to get Hamilton. And not just a little bit more, you're talking 3 years of a very, very good player.
Posted by: PWHjort | February 24, 2009 at 08:07 PM
I'm no Rangers' expert, but frankly I'd be surprised if Hamilton took 6/40. He's pretty old for an arbitration-eligible, and has posted huge numbers that would command much more money in the open market. I think he'll be looking for more money in his one huge contract opportunity.
Just a guess though.
Posted by: AtlantaMike | February 24, 2009 at 08:10 PM
nah dudes pelfrey is so much better he posted a 3 era last season hamilton only had 30 hrs i mean that is good but still pelfrey is better plus hie is a strikeoutmachine
Posted by: B3NG4L | February 24, 2009 at 08:11 PM
"nah dudes pelfrey is so much better he posted a 3 era last season hamilton only had 30 hrs i mean that is good but still pelfrey is better plus hie is a strikeoutmachine"
You're insane. He posted a 3.72 ERA last season. And that was NL. His previous 2 were above 5.
Posted by: PWHjort | February 24, 2009 at 08:13 PM
The AL West is up for grabs, yeah the A's made the most improvements and the Angels are still the ones to beat, but the rangers still have by far the best offense in the division and dont be suprised if nolan ryan and mike maddux work their magic on our pitchers.
Posted by: JH32 | February 24, 2009 at 08:18 PM
hamilton for volquez was the trade that brought him to texas so they would have to recieve atleast a volquez + to move him
IMO pelfrey was a flash in the pan and wont be able to do it again
Posted by: WilsonSaves | February 24, 2009 at 08:19 PM
"And to melonis rex, you think Pelfrey is going to get Hamilton?
Hamilton is to the Rangers (already) what Wright/Reyes are to the Mets - fan favorite, butts in the seats, merchandise, untouchable."
No. But Pelfrey would be the absolute STARTING point of any Hamilton deal. But the deal doesn't get off the ground without Pelfrey, as he is exactly what the Rangers need.
Pelfrey alone won't get Hamilton. Pelfrey + FMart + another spect will probably do it though.
Posted by: melonis rex | February 24, 2009 at 08:24 PM
" Pelfrey alone won't get Hamilton. Pelfrey + FMart + another spect will probably do it though. "
Sounds right.
Posted by: PWHjort | February 24, 2009 at 08:31 PM
The Rangers pitching may not be great at this point, but to say they have zero pitching? I believe Padilla won 14 games. How many pitchers on your team won that many? Join the Padilla flotilla before it sails! And we're not trading Hamilton. That's crazy talk.
Posted by: Rangerfan | February 24, 2009 at 09:00 PM
I have said since last june that it would be a good baseball move for the rangers to deal hamilton. obviously they would be in the drivers seat because they have nothing forcing a trade. But as it has been mentioned, scoring runs has never been a problem in texas. They could bring in one of the largest haul's that baseball has ever seen in talent coming back for hamilton. The rangers will not make the playoffs with the team that they have for a while...they seriously need pitching...if they could net 2 solid mlb ready pitchers as a starting point, they could possibly make the playoffs.
You want to keep butts in the seats, keep him. You want to win, trade him for a haul. When you are in the drivers seat in the division at all-star break, look how many butts will be in the seats then...
Don't get me wrong. I love Hamilton. I am a reds fan who loved hamilton but loved the trade just as much. Volquez and Votto were the two biggest bright spots for the reds last year. Hamilton is a once a generation talent, but the haul he could bring back would mean more to the rangers.
Posted by: coltholt | February 24, 2009 at 09:07 PM
The Rangers pitching may not be great at this point, but to say they have zero pitching? I believe Padilla won 14 games. How many pitchers on your team won that many? Join the Padilla flotilla before it sails! And we're not trading Hamilton. That's crazy talk.
Posted by: Rangerfan | February 24, 2009 at 09:00 PM
The Reds had two that topped 14...and one used to be a ranger... :-)
Posted by: coltholt | February 24, 2009 at 09:08 PM
He's a great player and great to build a team around enjoy watching him play.
Posted by: ChicagoFans2 | February 24, 2009 at 09:35 PM
''IMO pelfrey was a flash in the pan and wont be able to do it again''
Thank you for that insightful post when you've probably seen Mike Pelfrey pitch once (maybe twice), but you guys are just feeding into someone who thinks baseball GMs are playing on MLB: The Show. The Mets are obviously not trading for Josh Hamilton, nor is he being traded anywhere, so why even bother addressing someone like that Isn't that the guy on here that said Brian Schneider was equal to Brian McCann, anyway?
For what Josh Hamilton has been through, and not only to get his life back together but to be an All-Star last year and put up a 130 RBI season, he deserves a nice contract to come full-circle in not only his career, but his life as well.
Posted by: MattyMets | February 24, 2009 at 09:43 PM
"Hamilton is a once a generation talent"
Josh Hamilton is a good player, but that is a huge over statement. Albert Pujols is a once in a generation talent, and he belongs to the same generation as Josh Hamilton. Don't even try to make that comparison, because you will lose. Josh Hamilton is a very good player who has a bright future on the field despite his late start, but he is not anywhere near a once in a generation guy.
"For what Josh Hamilton has been through, and not only to get his life back together but to be an All-Star last year and put up a 130 RBI season, he deserves a nice contract to come full-circle in not only his career, but his life as well."
Well, dumping one of the most respected, ethical and hard working agents in the game because he is Jewish wasn't exactly a bright spot.
Posted by: AA | February 24, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Hamilton is NOT a once in a generation player. Yeah, he's an elite player, but he's still not quite on the Pujols/A-Rod level of eliteness yet.
His defense in center is mediocre, although I'm guessing he'll be good in right. His patience at the plate is good but not that good. He only hit 32 HR and a bunch of doubles, while playing in a major hitters park, which lots of hitters could do.
Hamilton is a once in a generation story, but not a once in a generation player.
And Im guessing that Hamilton dropped his Jewish agent because he's a born-again Christian, and a Christian simply can't have a Jewish agent, that's madness!! (I agree, it doesn't reflect too well on Josh)
Posted by: scribbletone | February 25, 2009 at 08:37 AM
lol BERKMAN OWNS THE REDS
Posted by: RoyOswaltSteroidFree | February 25, 2009 at 08:59 AM
I said a once a generation talent, not a once a generation player. Hamilton was drafted first overall in 1999 out of High School as the most highly tauted player in years. He was referred to as a guy with more raw talent than Griffey...and that was in 1999 when griffey was the greatest thing baseball had seen. Talent doesn't always equate to success...ask Corey Patterson. your arguments are taking my statement and turning it into something else.
Posted by: coltholt | February 25, 2009 at 09:03 AM
COREY PATTERSON... MY ANTI-DRUG
Posted by: RoyOswaltSteroidFree | February 25, 2009 at 09:25 AM
Fair enough. Misinterpreted your comment. He is rather talented..
Posted by: scribbletone | February 25, 2009 at 01:59 PM
To think, Hamilton probably would have had a long term deal now if he hadn't decided to dump Matt Sosnick because he is Jewish.
"I said a once a generation talent, not a once a generation player. Hamilton was drafted first overall in 1999 out of High School as the most highly tauted player in years. He was referred to as a guy with more raw talent than Griffey...and that was in 1999 when griffey was the greatest thing baseball had seen."
I don't think he even qualifies as such. He is a very, very good player, but still has holes in his game.
Posted by: AA | February 25, 2009 at 07:44 PM