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On Wednesday Ken Rosenthal said available Yankees center fielder Melky Cabrera "would be a perfect fit for the White Sox." Rosenthal originally had the Sox interested in Gary Matthews Jr., but updated his column saying that a source refuted the item.
Manager Ozzie Guillen wants to stay in-house for center field, according to Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune:
"No, we're not going (outside the organization). I don't want that to happen. I don't like that to happen. If we have to go outside the organization right now, gosh, I'm not going to say we're in trouble. But as a ballclub, we have enough guys here to resolve that problem."
Currently the contenders are Jerry Owens, Brian Anderson, and DeWayne Wise.
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New to the board but a long time reader. Will everyone please stop with the trade scenarios between both the White Sox and Angels. GMJr, Chone, Konerko, etc. These two teams HATE each other and will not make any moves with each other, period. The AJ thing in the 2005 ALCS, the Jenks thing, Konerko taking less to stay in Chicago after 2005 season, the two managers hating each other, etc. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE stop! These two are enemies and will not even do business with each other Period.
Posted by: WhiteSox5477 | March 27, 2009 at 08:58 AM
Garland for Cabrera?
Posted by: Tarik | March 27, 2009 at 09:28 AM
Even if I thought there was animosity between the front office of the two clubs, I still don't believe it would affect their ability to do business with each other if there was a fit for a trade. These are professionals, not petty high school students. You're way off base with that assumption, which is evidenced by the trade they made just last year involving Garland and Orlando Cabrera. Clearly they can do business, whether they hate each other or not. Strange things happen in the course of a baseball season, and sometimes things get a little heated, but even if the players hold grudges, the front office won't. You would have more to your argument if KW and Tony Reagins had some personal issues, but there's no evidence of that. As far as Konerko's decision to stay in Chicago, the Angels' front office would have to be pretty petty to be upset with the White Sox for that. Baseball clubs are NOT divided into "enemies" and "allies". (except for the Yankees and Red Sox)
Later,
Aaron
Posted by: Aaron | March 27, 2009 at 09:31 AM
"Baseball clubs are NOT divided into "enemies" and "allies". (except for the Yankees and Red Sox)"
Even that's a bit of a stretch. Much of the 'animosity' from either Front Office is calculated PR - even if Steinbrenner or Luccino are slinging mud. They both know the "rivalry" benefits their businesses. The players on either team rarely "hate" one another and its usually the rookies that spout off.
But it'd be bad business for any GM to "hate" another GM or agent. The movement of players in MLB is so dynamic today that you'd only be hurting yourself to hold a grudge. That's why Theo Epstein will ALWAYS deal with Boras no matter how upset they are about the Teixeira negotiations.
Posted by: el clash combo | March 27, 2009 at 09:40 AM
Why not go with a cheap guy from beyond the club that can make the plays in the field (the CHiSox should not have trouble scoring runs no matter who they put in CF) -- Corey Patterson from the Nats maybe?
Posted by: Chacho | March 27, 2009 at 09:42 AM
"But it'd be bad business for any GM to "hate" another GM or agent. The movement of players in MLB is so dynamic today that you'd only be hurting yourself to hold a grudge. That's why Theo Epstein will ALWAYS deal with Boras no matter how upset they are about the Teixeira negotiations."
Exactly. Animosities really don't mean much in MLB, especially with FO personnel.
I could see a Angels/Sox trade, but it will NOT involve GMJ.
Posted by: melonis rex | March 27, 2009 at 09:47 AM
There's no animosity there - that's just a silly statement. If the rest of the Sox' lineup produces like it should (Fields, Getz, Konerko and Thome look outstanding this spring, Quentin, Dye, Ramirez and AJ need to stay consistent) the Sox are fine going with Anderson's stellar defense knowing he's not going to produce much at the plate.
Posted by: southsider | March 27, 2009 at 09:59 AM
"Why not go with a cheap guy from beyond the club that can make the plays in the field (the CHiSox should not have trouble scoring runs no matter who they put in CF) -- Corey Patterson from the Nats maybe?
Posted by: Chacho | March 27, 2009 at 09:42 AM "
Hey Im a Cubs fan, and trust me, from personal experience, you REALLY don't wanna watch Corey Patterson for a whole year! Its brutal, hell i would rather watch Konerko play center!
Posted by: cashjblues | March 27, 2009 at 10:31 AM
BA may never hit .300, or even .260, but the man is a gazelle in CF. Four outfield assists this spring. Forget the platoon, let him play everyday. His defense will win you some games. He has some HR pop too.
Posted by: CubCrazy | March 27, 2009 at 11:16 AM
ha, gonna be a long season for the White Sox unless one of their 2Bs steps up and can hit leadoff, cause none of those 3 CF guys can....
Posted by: Hermie13 | March 27, 2009 at 11:35 AM
its a tough decision, i mean if anderson could stay consistent and hit some homers at the bottom of the order, its a plus. but we need someone fast that can make contact.
Posted by: Da Man | March 27, 2009 at 11:53 AM
If a player can not even post a .300 OBP, they are costing you more than helping no matter how strong their defense is. I agree the Sox should go internal instead of trade anything from a rather shallow system, but if the production is as low as it could be. Well, I imagine they will be looking to upgrade the first time they have a cost efficient option presented to them. (Cant believe they didn’t get in on Coco Crisp, who would have solved the problem perfectly for the short-term) Right now, there are just too few options with realistic costs.
Interesting side note. The only real noteworthy names (read, real ML players) on Andersons “similar batters” list are two infield/outfield super-subs and our good buddy, Gary Mathews Jr! I find that ironic considering the backlash GMJ rumors created with the Sox fans.
Posted by: SuzysMan | March 27, 2009 at 11:55 AM
What happened to those two Cuban defectors? Isn't one of them a centerfielder?
Posted by: greenlantern | March 27, 2009 at 12:15 PM
New to the board but a long time reader. Will everyone please stop with the trade scenarios between both the White Sox and Angels. GMJr, Chone, Konerko, etc. These two teams HATE each other and will not make any moves with each other, period. The AJ thing in the 2005 ALCS, the Jenks thing, Konerko taking less to stay in Chicago after 2005 season, the two managers hating each other, etc. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE stop! These two are enemies and will not even do business with each other Period.
Posted by: WhiteSox5477 | March 27, 2009 at 08:58 AM
That Garland for Cabrera trade happened right? Ok it did. Just checking.
Posted by: SoxWin | March 27, 2009 at 01:12 PM
"I could see a Angels/Sox trade, but it will NOT involve GMJ."
I'll just keep crossing my fingers for the Konerko for Figgins swap.
He'd give the Sox an elite leadoff hitter that's very versatile, and he's above average at third base.
Ideally, I'd love to see something like this:
Konerko and a minor leaguer or two to the Angels for Figgins and Reggie Willits.
That'd give the Sox two good OBP guys that would charge some speed into the lineup, and Fields could easily move over to first. The power would still be there with Quentin, Dye, Thome, Alexei and Fields, and Pierzynski would never even come close to hitting in the two hole again, as the 1-2 spots would almost definitely be filled by two of Figgins, Willits and Getz.
The Angels really have no room for Willits, and Brandon Wood is going to have to get his shot soon. I doubt it'll happen at shortstop, as they appear to like Erick Aybar there a good deal. Konerko would give them a good power hitter to complete a very good lineup, although this scenario would push Kendry Morales to the bench or back to AAA, which he really doesn't need.
Maybe they could figure out some monster deal that sends Figgins, Morales and Willits to the Sox for Konerko, Fields and some other good pieces.
Obviously this won't happen though.
I still wouldn't mind going after Melky, he could give them an upgrade from the other three guys. Owens just plain sucks, Anderson doesn't make even close to enough contact to play everyday, and Wise is a platoon guy at best.
Posted by: scribbletone | March 27, 2009 at 01:14 PM
"I could see a Angels/Sox trade, but it will NOT involve GMJ."
I'll just keep crossing my fingers for the Konerko for Figgins swap.
He'd give the Sox an elite leadoff hitter that's very versatile, and he's above average at third base.
Ideally, I'd love to see something like this:
Konerko and a minor leaguer or two to the Angels for Figgins and Reggie Willits.
That'd give the Sox two good OBP guys that would charge some speed into the lineup, and Fields could easily move over to first. The power would still be there with Quentin, Dye, Thome, Alexei and Fields, and Pierzynski would never even come close to hitting in the two hole again, as the 1-2 spots would almost definitely be filled by two of Figgins, Willits and Getz.
The Angels really have no room for Willits, and Brandon Wood is going to have to get his shot soon. I doubt it'll happen at shortstop, as they appear to like Erick Aybar there a good deal. Konerko would give them a good power hitter to complete a very good lineup, although this scenario would push Kendry Morales to the bench or back to AAA, which he really doesn't need.
Maybe they could figure out some monster deal that sends Figgins, Morales and Willits to the Sox for Konerko, Fields and some other good pieces.
Obviously this won't happen though.
I still wouldn't mind going after Melky, he could give them an upgrade from the other three guys. Owens just plain sucks, Anderson doesn't make even close to enough contact to play everyday, and Wise is a platoon guy at best.
Posted by: scribbletone | March 27, 2009 at 01:14 PM
i cannot see the Angels taking on 2/24m of Konerko for Figgins. Think about it, Dunn just signed for 2/20m. Why would Anaheim take on the aged Konerko in this distressed market? They just signed Abreu for 1/5m.
Cabrera still makes the most sense, 100% agreed scribbletone and that motley crew that they have auditioning for the CF job is not the answer at all. Maybe they are waiting for players out of options to be cut before making a move is all I can think of.
Posted by: johns | March 27, 2009 at 01:40 PM
Gee, maybe if Kenny Williams showed some patience, he might have been able to get Cabrera as part of the Swisher deal.
November 13th... that's a bit early to be rushing trades.
Posted by: Svengoolie | March 27, 2009 at 01:55 PM
Dave Roberts just released by the Giants is even a better idea than the current in house players if he could still play 80-100 games
Posted by: johns | March 27, 2009 at 02:02 PM
Svengoolie-
I dont want to even get started on that fuckingg Swisher trade. God damn.
And johns, I agree that the Angels wouldn't trade Konerko straight up for Figgins, primarily because of the cash. The White Sox would have to eat some money ($6-8M?) and probably throw in a prospect as well.
"Dave Roberts just released by the Giants is even a better idea than the current in house players if he could still play 80-100 games"
I would agree if Roberts was better defensively in center, but I just can't take that awful defense in center after watching Swish and Griffey last year.
Posted by: scribbletone | March 27, 2009 at 03:02 PM
Svengoolie-
I remember my first thought when Swish was traded to the Yanks was something along the lines of "Is Austin Jackson in the deal?"
Uggh that deal was horrible.
Posted by: melonis rex | March 27, 2009 at 04:38 PM
Please, no more GMJ talk,he's done and only had one good year and one great catch.Don't even bring up Dave Roberts, I actually choked when I read that.I'd like to see the Sox get Pierre from the Dodgers.He scores 100 runs,steals 50 bags,almost 200 hits,and comes to play every day.Keep BA around for 4th OF.Probably wouldn't take much to get hima and the Dodgers would probably be willing to eat some of the contract.
Posted by: rfro | March 27, 2009 at 04:46 PM
I know the article says the Sox are likely to stay in house, but just out of curiosity what do you guys think would be a fair deal involving Melky and the Sox?
Posted by: Yanksallday | March 27, 2009 at 06:02 PM
I'd rather have Brian Anderson than Melky Cabrera.More pop in his bat.
Posted by: rfro | March 27, 2009 at 06:50 PM
One man that no one is bringing up is Josh Anderson from Atlanta. He's got the speed, he's got the average, and he's a CF. I read, on here (Thanks Tim!), that Atlanta was looking to move him. The Sox and Braves have history with trades and connections. He's young, he's gonna be cheaper than Melky, Figgins, and GMJ, and he's a hell of a lot better than our in-house options.
Posted by: ChiSox33 | March 27, 2009 at 07:59 PM
One man that no one is bringing up is Josh Anderson from Atlanta. He's got the speed, he's got the average, and he's a CF. I read, on here (Thanks Tim!), that Atlanta was looking to move him. The Sox and Braves have history with trades and connections. He's young, he's gonna be cheaper than Melky, Figgins, and GMJ, and he's a hell of a lot better than our in-house options.
Posted by: ChiSox33 | March 27, 2009 at 07:59 PM
One man that no one is bringing up is Josh Anderson from Atlanta. He's got the speed, he's got the average, and he's a CF. I read, on here (Thanks Tim!), that Atlanta was looking to move him. The Sox and Braves have history with trades and connections. He's young, he's gonna be cheaper than Melky, Figgins, and GMJ, and he's a hell of a lot better than our in-house options.
Posted by: ChiSox33 | March 27, 2009 at 07:59 PM
One man that no one is bringing up is Josh Anderson from Atlanta. He's got the speed, he's got the average, and he's a CF. I read, on here (Thanks Tim!), that Atlanta was looking to move him. The Sox and Braves have history with trades and connections. He's young, he's gonna be cheaper than Melky, Figgins, and GMJ, and he's a hell of a lot better than our in-house options.
Posted by: ChiSox33 | March 27, 2009 at 07:59 PM
One man that no one is bringing up is Josh Anderson from Atlanta. He's got the speed, he's got the average, and he's a CF. I read, on here (Thanks Tim!), that Atlanta was looking to move him. The Sox and Braves have history with trades and connections. He's young, he's gonna be cheaper than Melky, Figgins, and GMJ, and he's a hell of a lot better than our in-house options.
Posted by: ChiSox33 | March 27, 2009 at 07:59 PM
ChiSox33, i posted this in the "Offseason in review" segment:
As a Braves fan, im reading your posts and it keeps saying things like our CF and end of rotation is week. Well we got what you need.
We have 3 (well, actually 2 since Jordan Schafer is off limits;Josh Anderson and Gregor Blanco are available tho). We also have about 4 quality end of the rotation starters: Jojo Reyes, Jorge Campillo, Charlie Morton and James Parr. All are pretty young and fine as #5 starts. Reyes had a horrible year last year but has been a beast in ST. Campillo was 10-7 w/ a 3.80 era. Morton and Parr are both young righties.
THINK WE COULD WORK OUT A DEAL INVOLVING A CF AND A STARTER?
Posted by: bravesfansc | March 28, 2009 at 02:00 AM