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On this date 11 years ago, the Marlins traded Gary Sheffield, Bobby Bonilla, Charles Johnson and two others to the Dodgers for Mike Piazza and Todd Zeile. Piazza's tenure with the Marlins would last five games in which he was 5-18 with a triple and 5 RBI. Seven days later he was traded to the Mets for Preston Wilson and two minor league pitchers that would combine for 5 career appearances. To this day, Mike Francessa of WFAN in New York City will tell anybody that listens that he was responsible for convincing the Mets to make the deal. So far this season we have seen a couple of minor deals. Let's take a look at what is being written in the Blogosphere...
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I wonder what kind of package the Cubs could put together for Hoyt Wilhelm. Maybe a couple mid-level prospects?
Posted by: Randy K | May 15, 2009 at 08:48 AM
Penny+Lugo for Hardy? Really?
Buchholtz for Hardy maybe, but not Penny. Hardy was a top 5 SS last year, the Brewers have at least 4 starters who could outperform Penny and Escobar would be more useful than Lugo if they were going to trade Hardy.
Now Hall for Penny is something they might consider if they are ready to give Gamel a real look.
Posted by: Ender | May 15, 2009 at 08:53 AM
He doesn't trust Cotts and Patton, yet he's totally fine putting Heilman in during close games.
...don't know what you're seeing, Lou.
Posted by: www.homehalfway.net | May 15, 2009 at 08:55 AM
What ever happened to Preston Wilson? Is he retired or in the IL?
Posted by: jdub | May 15, 2009 at 09:06 AM
The Joba guy mentions a trade of Yunel Escobar for 1/2 season of Matt Holliday? No way.
Posted by: DKA | May 15, 2009 at 09:08 AM
Hey jdub,
Preston Wilson is now playing with the Long Island Ducks of the Independent League
http://www.liducks.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=roster
Posted by: Moonlight Graham | May 15, 2009 at 09:42 AM
Really, really stupid Indians reliever trade speculation. Why in the world would the Indians trade Tony Sipp, a young lefty with huge upside and under control for years? And who the hell would give up anything for Matt Herges? Betancourt? Sure.
Posted by: MickS | May 15, 2009 at 09:48 AM
Penny + Lugo for Hardy is not gonna happen, that's for sure. Given that Hardy is clearly the superior defender (career 8.9 UZR/150) compared to Lugo (-48 UZR/150 in '09), the upgrade would still not be worth Buchholz. Hardy does make a lot of sense for the Red Sox, but it probably won't happen, with Lugo still under contract through next year and lowrie in rehab.
I'm not completely against trading Buchholz though, but i think a slugger needs to be targeted (since Ortiz is done!), like A.Gonzalez, who also provides above average Glove at 1B. they won't reach the playoffs with ortiz providing zero production out of the 3 spot.
Posted by: Baseball@Europe | May 15, 2009 at 09:54 AM
I don't think the Red Sox should target Adrian Gonzalez, simply because they'll be paying for both his offense and defense. You don't trade for a really really good defensive 1Bman just to DH him, which is what the Sox would be doing with Adrian. Waste of resources for the Sox.
Sox should target a guy who is a primary DH type, and it doesn't necessarily have to be a big name. Prince Fielder makes more sense than Adrian, but the Brewers probably won't trade him (although they should). Russell Branyan, Hank Blalock, etc.
Posted by: melonis rex | May 15, 2009 at 09:59 AM
i agree, paying for defense although you don't need it doesn't make a lot of sense. but the pads are more likely to trade Gonzalez than the brewers to trade Fielder. My point is the AL East is the strongest division in baseball and if the sox want to go to the postseason then Ortiz better start hitting sooner than later, for power and avg. or Epstein needs to do something about. even Dunn comes to mind.
Posted by: Baseball@Europe | May 15, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Why not move Adrain Gonzalez to 1B, Youkilis to 3B and move Mike Lowell to DH?
Posted by: el clash combo | May 15, 2009 at 10:45 AM
"Why not move Adrain Gonzalez to 1B, Youkilis to 3B and move Mike Lowell to DH?"
Because all three of those guys are really, really good defensively.
Moving a plus defensive player to DH is a waste of resources, pure and simple. In this case, the resources are prospects, not money.
Posted by: melonis rex | May 15, 2009 at 10:53 AM
"Buchholtz for Hardy maybe, but not Penny. Hardy was a top 5 SS last year, the Brewers have at least 4 starters who could outperform Penny and Escobar would be more useful than Lugo if they were going to trade Hardy."
I would really hesitate to deal Buchholz for Hardy at this point.
Buchholz is absolutely dominating AAA, posting a 1.03 ERA, 2.31 FIP, 37/10 K/BB and just one home run allowed in 35 innings. He still looks an awful lot like a young top of the rotation starter.
Meanwhile, Hardy's service time is starting to accumulate, and unless I'm mistaken he's due to become a free agent after 2010.
Now, Hardy is a great shortstop that provides good defense and a lot of offense for the position, but he's also pretty inconsistent, and he's had some struggles this season.
Considering the fact that Hardy is sure to get a major payday in less than two years, I would really hesitate to give up a guy with as much upside as Buchholz that's so close to the majors.
If the Red Sox could get a deal done around Penny and some lesser prospects, then that'd be a great idea.
But if the Red Sox decide that it's time to move someone from the Buchholz/Bowden/Masterson trio, then they should go for it and pursue a star-quality player, and I'm not convinced that Hardy is that kind of player, even after he was worth 9.4 wins in 2007-2008.
Posted by: scribbletone | May 15, 2009 at 11:11 AM
The Brewers already have Brad Penny, except his name is Jeff Suppan. I really don't see why they'd be interested in another declining overpaid pitcher.
Posted by: Invader3K | May 15, 2009 at 11:25 AM
There's also rumours in the Toronto media that JP is making subtle but purposeful calls to teams for a top 3 starter and also for a power hitter.
Far as I can see, there's not much room in the blue jay line up for a power hitter unless they move Lind or Overbay which are both possibilities but if youre JP you have to question as to whether you screw with chemistry right now.
Personally, when I see Tallet starting games, I worry about the starting pitching situation so if they were to acquire someone like Chris Young or Erik Bedard, it wouldnt surprise me.
However with the power hitter situation, I would wait until the off season and try and sign a veteran power hitting DH into the fold. I wonder if Carlos Delgado would come back to Toronto and finish where he started.
I could also see JP going all out and making a real splash with a big name free agent like Bay in the off season. Bay would be a hero in Toronto with the Canadian connection and if he is a free agent, I could see the Jays taking a very serious run at him and then trading Lind for some depth.
Posted by: xethicx | May 15, 2009 at 11:27 AM
"As far as I can see, there's not much room in the blue jay line up for a power hitter unless they move Lind or Overbay which are both possibilities but if youre JP you have to question as to whether you screw with chemistry right now."
Trade Adam Lind for a power hitter? What?
Lind has a .321/.404/.540 line so far this season while playing solid defense. He's been one of the best power hitters in that lineup, and he looks like an emerging quality everyday player.
Overbay is a more likely trade candidate, as he's more of a doubles/OBP/defense guy than a slugger, but he's actually playing quite well right now, too.
I think that what the Blue Jays really need is another dependable starter, as well as some expected improvement from the bats of Alex Rios and Travis Snider, which have been weak so far.
Posted by: scribbletone | May 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM
i would hope the dodgers kept Loney around. as much as he's struggling a bit, its really nice to have that young core on the team.
i can only hope that billingsley, broxton, either, kemp, martin, and loney are torre's new pettite, rivera, williams, and posada
also, i can see the bosox getting rid of ortiz for somebody more (how should i say this?) WHITE. Adam Dunn makes sense, especially if the Nats continue to be horrible.
Posted by: ThinkBlue | May 15, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Im not saying trade Lind for power. Im saying IF the Jays were lucky enough to sign Jason Bay, theyd have to move someone from the outfield picture if possible.
Lind can play 1st base and he really isnt a great defensive outfielder. In a perfect world, the Jays sign Bay, move Lind to 1B and move Overbay for a package of players that will depend on what kind of season he has.
But thats in a perfect world and thats IF Boston doesnt throw massive amounts of cash at Bay to keep him in Boston. They have options for LF in the organization. Lars Anderson could be converted to the outfield easily if the red sox choose to keep Youkilis at 1B and give Green a shot at a full time 3B spot or sign a 3B free agent.
So the idea of the Jays signing Bay isnt really that out of the question. IF he ends up a free agent come the off season, JP will make a huge run at him. If they do, I would love to see Lind at 1B if he can do it.
Posted by: xethicx | May 15, 2009 at 11:48 AM
"Im not saying trade Lind for power. Im saying IF the Jays were lucky enough to sign Jason Bay, theyd have to move someone from the outfield picture if possible."
But why sign Bay when you have a young, cheap guy that could potentially produce similarly?
The Blue Jays have far bigger issues than their outfield/first base situation, and they should address the situations in the rotation and at catcher, shortstop and third base before spending huge money on an aging left fielder.
If the Blue Jays decide to let Scutaro go, bringing in someone like Orlando Cabrera, as well as a catcher that doesn't have a .291 career OBP (his OBP is fueled by a very high BABIP so far in 2009).
The Blue Jays should be more concerned with their pitching, retaining Halladay, and fixing other positional issues, because they're alright in the outfield and at first base.
"IF he ends up a free agent come the off season, JP will make a huge run at him."
Just like, where did this claim come from?
Posted by: scribbletone | May 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Thanks Moonlight Graham.
Posted by: jdub | May 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM
"The Blue Jays have far bigger issues than their outfield/first base situation, and they should address the situations in the rotation and at catcher, shortstop and third base before spending huge money on an aging left fielder."
Nevermind on third base, I didn't realize that Rolen was signed through 2010.
But yeah, the Jays have long term issues at catcher and shortstop unless Justin Jackson and J.P. Arencibia can emerge at those respective positions, and I just think that maintaining quality pitching depth should also be a big time priority.
I think that the plan for 2010 will be the same as 2009: Split the OF/1B/DH spots between Wells, Rios, Lind, Snider, Overbay and an additional, power-hitting veteran.
Posted by: scribbletone | May 15, 2009 at 12:59 PM
If the Jays have bats available from their OF, than I can certainly see them hooking up with the Bravos...Vazquez might be available, as well as Charlie Morton who is tearing up AAA this year. Thoughts?
I certainly see it as a lot more likely than the Braves over-spending for Holliday...
Posted by: Andy Braves Fan | May 15, 2009 at 02:13 PM
Penny was a retread signing.. and then you package him with another retread Lugo. And bam you get Hardy? What the hell, Hardy will take legit prospects or maybe Penny and Kalish or Bowden, Exposito, and Rizzo. They Brewers will be buyers this summer.
And trading Loney for Cantu gives me a headache.
Loney is going to hit and is a great glove.
I will take a 800 ops. from my First basemen, when you have Kemp, Ethier, Martin(whos coming around) Blake, Hudson, and Manny coming back..
Loney should bat 3rd. Kemp 4, Ethier 5, and Martin 6th, Furcal 7 and Blake 8.
Posted by: 661dodgerblue | May 15, 2009 at 03:17 PM
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"Why not move Adrain Gonzalez to 1B, Youkilis to 3B and move Mike Lowell to DH?"
Because all three of those guys are really, really good defensively.
Moving a plus defensive player to DH is a waste of resources, pure and simple. In this case, the resources are prospects, not money."
But who says any of them would have to be a pure DH? Most teams don't have a pure, every day DH these days, with the Sox being one of the few honest exceptions. A grouping of Lowell, Youkilis and Gonzalez would mean being able to platoon the three and rotate DH duties, giving all three some rest without letting their bats cool off.
I don't think paying for defense, with the pockets the Sox have, would be a good reason to hold off on a deal for someone like Gonzalez. I think a better reason would be the fact that Lowell's going to be gone soon enough, to be replaced by Anderson, who doesn't play third base, thus negating the potential platoon situation.
Posted by: 0bsessions | May 15, 2009 at 05:09 PM
However with the power hitter situation, I would wait until the off season and try and sign a veteran power hitting DH into the fold. I wonder if Carlos Delgado would come back to Toronto and finish where he started.""
FYI, Delgado may need surgery. i wouldnt put any bets on him.
As for the Dodger lineup, this is how id i do it:
Pierre
Hudson
Kemp
Ethier
Martin
Loney
Blake
Furcal
Pitcher
If furcal is in the 8, he can get on base, potentially steal 2nd then get bunted to 3rd, and the lineup turns over. There is almost too much speed at the top, and the other are doing well, no need to change them
Posted by: lakersdodgersyankees4life | May 16, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Thinkblue, are all Dodgers fans racist or is it just you?
Posted by: RED SOX DYNASTY! | May 17, 2009 at 02:15 PM