No Offers For Adrian Gonzalez

So when the Cubs offered Vitters, Marshall, Hill, Pie, Cedeno, Gaudin, and Hart for Peavy and Gonzalez, the Padres didn't consider that a serious trade offer?

Gonzalez will get traded right after Justin Upton and Felix Hernandez.

The dude has 24 jacks in a division where he's facing the likes of Lincecum, Cain, (a decent) Zito, the unit, Billingsley, Kershaw, Kuroda, Wolf, and Haren.

imagine what he could do for an AL Central team.

i'm surpirsed he's not getting more attention.

scribbletone, when did they make that offer? I remember they were after Peavy, but were they also after Gonzalez?

But no, it's not a great offer for a star pitcher and hitter. Marshall is purely average, Hill is a guy the Cubs gave away for a PTBNL, Pie is Patterson 2.0 (aka overrated and crap), Cedeno isn't exactly a teams are lining up for, and the Cubs released Gaudin. Leaving Vitters and Hart as the best pieces... Vitters could have great power, but he's still in single A (I think) and I don't know much about Hart except no one is calling him a future ace. So 2 prospects, a couple of average players, and throw away piece for a premium power hitter and power pitcher... it's a bad offer.

If Lowell turns out to need extended time on the DL I'd expect to see the Sox to make a serious run at Gonzalez.

"scribbletone, when did they make that offer? I remember they were after Peavy, but were they also after Gonzalez?"

I was joking..

Towers would have tried to spit through the phone at Hendry if he called to make that offer..

I guess Cub fans have made so many ludicrous trade proposals over the years that even humorous proposals can be taken seriously.

If I am Dayton Moore and serious about winning, I am offering:

1) any one of Alex Gordon or Billy Butler
2) Luke Hochevar
3) Carlos Rosa

A-Gon in KC would just...ROCK.

"Too much. Think more like Buccholz, Reddick, Navarro, and Dubront or Hagadone. With the numbers Pimentel's putting out this season, I don't see Theo letting him go."

Padres wouldn't do that, Adrian is under team control until 2011 and will only make about $5 mil per year so the padres would not be making the move to save money. They would be making the move re-building their team with players who will be able to play at the MLB level in 2010 so I think a team will have to over pay to get him.

""Too much" is all Towers will most likely accept for Gonzalez. "

I understand that. But giving up Buchholz, Anderson, Pimentel, and Reddick for one player is just not worth it.

"I understand that. But giving up Buchholz, Anderson, Pimentel, and Reddick for one player is just not worth it."

I am completely agreeing with you. But like I said...Towers really has no reason to move him unless he is overwhelmed.

"From the Sox, I know that the Padres would like Buccholz and Reddick, beyond that I dont know their system well enough to make a call, but I would suspect they would want another high end arm or two."

Boston's AA and below is made up of high end arms AirmanSD Hagedone was Boston's #1 pick from 2007 that made a dozen starts before TJ surgery and just came back. He's a POWER lefty that throws up to 98mph and also has a really nasty slider that he has not lost since returning.

Boston has Junichi Tazawa, Casey Kelly, Pimentel, Doubront, Bryan Price,Stephen Fife, Kyle Weilland, Brock Huntzinger.. Power arms one and all, problem is they are all at AA and below, with only Bowden and Bucholz at AAA

"I understand that. But giving up Buchholz, Anderson, Pimentel, and Reddick for one player is just not worth it."

I think this is the kind of package, however, that would even come close to getting it done.

A-Gon's numbers are good, but a road split of 1.067 OPS is superstar. Couple that with the fact he's only 27 and controlled through 2011... and you have an extremely valuable asset. His D at 1st has been much better compared to years past as well.

Given age, cost, and production, he's about as valuable as any positional player out there.

I think Boston fans are getting a little spoiled (in a good way) since so many of their farm guys have become productive ML players. But I don't think we should forget guys like Anderson and Reddick are just prospects. Many turn out to be great players, but many flame out too. When and if a proven masher like Adrian Gonzalez becomes available, I think it would be prudent for Theo to go ahead and pull the trigger knowing he has one of the best 1B's in the game through his prime.

"I am not sure what the Padres would ask for, but I can hazard a guess at least two of the names you listed would be required, along with Buccholz and Reddick."

Boston is pretty thin at AAA, remember they have called up Bard, Lowrie and you know about Bowden and Bucholz already. Zach Daeges (OF) has been out almost all season with a bad knee and IMO, they only have fringe guys Aaron Bates and Hunter Jones (RP) as remote prospects other than a horde of AAAA retread starters that they have converted into relievers. Some of those have become fantastically successful if they would help as "fill ins" like Fernando Cabrera and Rocky Cherry.

Possible Sox catcher Mark Wagner was just promoted to AAA, but I seriously doubt they would trade him as they will be needing 'Tek's replacement soon and imagine that either Wagner, or Federowicz are the ones being eyed.

Here is a good place to keep an eye on Sox guys all in one place.

http://www.soxprospects.com/

"I would consider giving up Matt Cain plus for Gonzalez or some prospect"

Try more like Bumgarner or Alderson and then some, point being if one of their names doesn't come up, no deal. The Pads will probably want someone they can control for more years than Cain. Cain has a great team friendly contract but is only under team control for 2 and a half more years.

I'd guess the Giants would have to offer up Bumgarner + Sandoval + 2 or 3 others. Matt Cain wouldn't do it for them because he is only under control for the same length as Adrian is. Matt Cain is pitching great, but Adrian Gonzalez is approaching Pujols territory and is simply more valuable.

Posted by: dodgersdan | June 29, 2009 at 09:10 PM

The giants aren't trading Sandoval. He's under team control for 5 years and if you watched him in Milwaukee this past weekend you'd see he's quickly becoming one of the best hitter's in the league.

The giants do have the pieces to make it happen. How about Alderson , Pucetas, Burriss, and Ishikawa.

Lakerdodger We can all dream can't we?

ok well if we do trade gonzo then all hope is lost.

but i was thinking about a good deal for trading Jake Peavy......

Trade him and Brian Giles to the Phillies( a NL contending team) for
INF Jason Donald
OF Mike Taylor
P Antonio Bastardo
and maybe John Mayberry Jr.

what do you think?....

im a huge fan of Mike Taylor and John Mayberry Jr. and i think it would be a great trade for both sides

Look who will have room to put a 190 hitting Giles on MLB roster? I wouldn't turn off the A Gon trade talks all together though if I am KT, I mean if someone gives you a stupid offer like 5 possible future MLB prospects all in AA or AAA and two expected to be stars at front of rotation do you turn it down? NO. Pads need to wait till off season to trade Jake. Kouz meanwhile is as good as gone and get the team some nice pieces