Odds & Ends: O's, Josh Johnson, Yankees, Red Sox

I agree with RAB. If we don't trade him now for whatever value he has, we won't get ANYTHING for him at the end of the season.

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"After Josh Johnson beat the Yankees yesterday, Mike Feinsand of the New York Daily News says, 'Hope you got a good look, Yankees fans. You may have been watching your future ace.'"

I couldn't help but laugh hysterically at that sentiment."

My sentiments exactly. The Yankee sentiments of entitlement come bleeding through once again.

JJ got his game on center stage though vs the Yankees, I watched it and thoroughly enjoyed watching him out duel Burnett in a very well pitched pitchers duel. Pretty full stadium in Miami for a WELL BIASED Yankee crowd that was very pro Yankee.

Johnson hit 99mph on the Radar as late as the 6th inning when he struck out Jeter.The guy is a real talent.

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"After Josh Johnson beat the Yankees yesterday, Mike Feinsand of the New York Daily News says, 'Hope you got a good look, Yankees fans. You may have been watching your future ace.'"

I couldn't help but laugh hysterically at that sentiment."

Because even though it represents the Yankee mentality perfectly, you know its still going to happen?

"Young pitchers will not want to play for the Yankees."

They will if offered enough money.

This is a statement from a beat writer not the representation of the the Yankee fanbase. So maybe we should calm down with this sense of entitlement stuff. If/when Johnson hits the market im sure if the rotation needs an upgrade the yankees will do there research and see if he'd be a good fit with the club. Just like EVERY good franchise will.

"Young pitchers will not want to play for the Yankees."

"They will if offered enough money."

You missed the point, why would a young pitcher want to go inflate their ERA if they are going to be looking for their next deal at 32-34 years old.

The Yankees paying them an extra 10-15M could lose them a year or two plus $ off their next contract...unless they move the fence back.

i hope JJ doesn't go anywhere and the marlins sign him long term but JJ is the type of pitcher the Yanks need at that stadium one that gets groundballs

You know Scribbs and Cosa I was saying the same thing. It's obviously a journalism with nothing better to report on a Sunday. JJ MAY become a FA and the Yanks will have just as much of a shot at him if he does. However, there's ZERO certainty that he will ever be a Yankee. I just all who post on this subject realize that it's not a "Yankee fan" righting that.

As for Nady, why would anyone think that Nady will be a desired commodity coming off of a major elbow injury that was rehabbed as opposed to surgically repaired? The elbow problem eliminates half of the teams in baseball as almost none of the NL teams would want to to take a chance on his healthy and ability to play the field and throw. The Yanks obviously wouldn't trade him to an AL East team, so that leaves the AL West and AL Central. Because he's a FA next year that would mean he's only going to a contender who needs a bat. That narrows it down to either the Tigers, Twins, Angels or Rangers. None of those teams are a good match. Furthermore, even if Nady were traded for a relief pitcher is it at all realistic to expect anyone decent in return? What team would be dumb enough to trade an effective relief pitcher.
Nady's greatest value would be as a right-handed platoon DH'er or bat off the bench. Matsui is hitting .228/.323 vs lefties (despite hitting 6 of his 10 hrs against them) and .262/.360 vs lefties. Nady can prodide a power bat to complement Matsui against tough power lefties in the AL like Lester, Lee, Downs, Price, Okajima, etc.

"I would trade anyone if it made the team better long and short term, but I'm not sure what they could get for Nady at this point."

So what you are saying, is that you would make any trade that you would clearly win? Because that is some awfully insane thinking there.

Why would the Orioles trade Brian Robert's after resigning him to a team friendly 4 year contract and making a point of rewarding a home grown player.
They have no 2B prospects and Robert's figures to age pretty well over the contract.
Would they trade him simply because some teams want him?
If they can get some good prospects for Huff, Baez & Mora then I would go for it(I'd keep Sherril) and only trade Guthrie if they're blown away.
It doesn't really make sense as a trading partner but maybe they should try and get Ricky Nolasco?
If they can get a decent prospect for Baez and then two close to MLB position player prospects for Huff and Mora then that would be good business.
I would say Boston could use Huff especially but the problem is trading within the AL East & Andersen is maybe too much to ask for even if they do pay the full amount of Huff's contract for the year.
JJ throwing 99 in the 6th, daymn didn't he just come back from surgery too? Thats impressive stuff.
Orioles probably only need a 3B, 1B & SS along with an ace for the staff and they'd be set as soon as their pitching comes through.
I say Guthrie and Baez to Milwaukee for JJ Hardy and/or Gamel.

I don't think Guthrie & Baez for Gamel is unfair, in hindsight the Hardy & Gamel comment was.

How will Dice-K's DL stint not be 2 weeks? The 15-day DL is 2 weeks. Unless they mean it won't take more than the 15 days.

"How will Dice-K's DL stint not be 2 weeks? The 15-day DL is 2 weeks. Unless they mean it won't take more than the 15 days."

The implication is that it won't be JUST two weeks. I wouldn't look for him again before the trading deadline.

"Their is not a really good bullpen pitcher for the nation"

I assume you're not counting Ramirez, Okajima, Saito, Delcarmen, Bard, or Masterson? Seriously, that's just a silly statement.

Most people agree the Sox have the best bullpen in the league this year, every member of the pen could easily be a set up man anywhere else. The Sox don't need another reliever.

Easy guys.....no Yankee fans said anything about Josh Johnson. Its was a moronic writer from the daily news. The media today in general is a joke which is why I check this site and not ESPN's. Sports writing today is about as classy as celebrity tabloids these days.

Please Tim you have a great site. Don't give in and a great following...don't give in and become the next ESPN!!

BRob isn't going anywhere. Scott, on the other hand...

I like how Andy is handling the situation. He'll talk and if he's blown away, he'll deal, but he's not going to trade anyone just for the sake of it (according to what he said in The Sun). We ain't the Marlins, so there's no need to dump salary, esp. with cheap players under long term control like Guts, Scott, and Sherrill. Huff could net two premium draft picks as a FA. If nothing else, Baez provides valuable innings out of the 'pen; protecting our valuable young arms. I'm all for shopping these guys (BRob excluded), but I'd only make a move if the price is right.

OhPityMe: We wouldn't get Gamel for Guthrie + Baez. Sure, I'd love it, but it's simply not happening.

Personally, I'd rather us move those two to pick up a pair of second-tier position players, one at 3B and one at 2B. Young, raw, fast. One to replace B-Rob in a few years, and one to replace the Mora/Huff/Wigginton committee at 3B.