Rangers To Pursue Pitching?

How about Kenshin Kawakami jo jo reyes and cody johnson and another low level guy for nelson cruz?

Posted by: Justin | June 08, 2009 at 07:16 PM

So you're giving the Rangers a bunch of junk for a premium RF?

Arent the Rangers keeping tabs on Ben Sheets who is expected around August?

This just sounds like a perfect time for them to trade one of their catchers for some of Boston's pitching.

Also doubt the Rangers would want anything to do with Kenshin simply because he is mainly a flyball pitcher.

Oswalt has some type of no trade. He might be able to waive it if he's able to continue playing in Texas. When it comes to trades, if the Braves fall out of it, Javier Vazquez could become an option. If they don't want to part with prospects, they might be able to use Hank Blalock as a chip with the Mets via trade. With Putz down and Perez in his own world though, they might not be willing to trade a Brian Stokes or someone like that.

Sheets will need rehab time and judging from the way they are throwing massive amounts of workload pitch wise to converted middle relievers like Holland and leaving them in games when they have nothing left from a horrible bull pen, they are going to need to get more pitching from somewhere if they hope to get anywhere in the post season, if they can even hold onto the AL West when the Angels pitching slowly begins to come together as the Rangers (thin enough already) wears itself out from over use.

I think the Rangers are for real. Their offense is just incredible and they have the best farm system in the majors. I think the last person they should go after is Oswalt. He's overpaid and just isn't an ace anymore. He's not blowing that fastball past anyone now. The Rangers don't play the Reds alot either.

I wonder if an intra-division trade would work? The A's have a lot of pitching, and the Rangers have a lot of hitting. Both lack what the other has.

If you ignore the A's current rotation, which seems set, they then still have Dana Eveland, Sean Gallagher, Gio Gonzalez, Henry Rodriguez and the DL'd Justin Duchscherer available, pushed out of the rotation by the A's top pitching prospects.

The A's need 3B and OF Prospects. What do the Rangers have in those areas? Looking at the minorleagueball top 20 prospect list, its almost all pitchers, ironically enough! And I am assuming that the Rangers would not trade Andrus or any of their pitchers, and I am pretty sure they would not trade Smoak (whom the A's really covet, so if a deal went there, the A's would probably have to pay a lot in pitching).

The Rangers biggest positional strength is Catcher, but that is a place that the A's do not need help in, with Kurt Suzuki in the Majors and Josh Donaldson at AA.

How about Penny, Delcarmen and Bard for Blalock, Vizquel and Manuel Pina (young AA catcher)?

How about Penny and MDC for Blalock and Vizquel.

Blalock gives us some insurance for Ortiz (though his OBP is horrible!)

Vizquel has lost a step, but is still a defensive upgrade over Lugo or Green (if Lowrie takes longer to come back)

Cliff Lee and Carl Pavano may be of interest to the Rangers.

As a Rangers fan, I wouldn't make the Smoak for Buchholz trade.

Also, why would Boston do it? They do have Lars Anderson.

"Also, why would Boston do it? They do have Lars Anderson."

Because Smoak is a much better prospect than Lars.

"Erik Bedard for Neftali Feliz and Justin Smoak!"

No. Either one of those guys is too much for a half season of Bedard.

Vizquel to the BoSox, for a pitcher?

Jeff Bennet and Vasquez for Nelson Cruz after hamilton comes back?

"It's too bad the Rangers are as good as they are this year because I would give up quite a bit to see Nelson Cruz in Cardinal red. Just for fun though, would a package of Ryan Ludwick (replaces Cruz), Chris Perez(replaces the injured Francisco), Mitchell Boggs/PJ Walters (replaces McCarthy until he returns), and maybe someone like Tyler Greene or Joe Mather that could be brought up in the case of an injury, for Nelson Cruz? What do you guys think?"

I'm hoping 1) your in a very sarcastic mood tonight, 2) you forgot to add in quite a few players the Rangers would give up, or 3) your drunk typing...

"I think the last person they should go after is Oswalt. He's overpaid and just isn't an ace anymore. He's not blowing that fastball past anyone now. "

Yeah never mind that according to fangraphs.com, Oswalt is throwing harder this year than in any year since 2005.

"They don't have the best farm system anymore. Holland/Andrus/Teagarden are already up and a lot of the prospects have struggled this season.

Count on Daniels to acquire some bum."

Kinsler5, I thought you did us a favor by dissappearing on here. You have nothing but ignorant comments about the rangers.

And please tell me who has a better farm system right now, yeah we lost three to the majors but we have also had a lot more emerge at different levels such as boscan, font, pimentel, pina, kiker, etc. to go along with feliz, perez, and smoak.

Also what makes you think Daniels with aquire some bum to help us? He sure aquired some bums last time we were in the race at the deadline...Carlos Lee, Matt Stairs, and Kip Wells at the top of my head, not to mention snagging Nelson Cruz in the Lee deal.

Wondering anyones opinion on Andrus for Bucholz?

Neither is really better than the other. Of course it would be almost the top prospect for the other, but it fits a need.

The starting pitcher of the future for Rangers. Plus they have the pieces to make it work, Vizquel can play SS about 4 days a week, and they have people to fill in when he needs time off.

Too add to above post. If Bucholz goes in a deal for a SS, it had better be in a deal for a bonafide SS, like a JJ Hardy.

"Yeah, Bard was the most offered by Boston for either catcher. Which is a stupid deal for Texas because you don't trade a young starting catcher for a relief prospect, regardless of how good said relief prospect is."

Closer prospects do not grow on trees, just like catching and when Rangers have 4 catchers and a BP in shambles, struggling now to find people to come into games to shut down other teams, any help am pretty sure is appreciated.

Hind sight now looks pretty well from the Boston side on Texas declining.

is neftali feliz that far way from coming up and helping?

My word there is so many bad post on here I don't know where to start.

1. Elvis is proving himself in the big leagues, while Buchholz fans 40 year olds in the minors. Texas would laugh in Bostons face at that offer. Also, would you REALLY rather have JJ Hardy than Elvis Andrus? If so you don't watch, or know baseball.

2. Texas has a surplus of catchers yes, but that doesn't mean we should give into any old offer boston throws at us. There is no need to rush. They are all young and catchers always have value. If Boston isn't willing to work out a deal, or Texas for that matter, there are always more trading partners.

Ok back to the topic. Texas needs to fix the bullpen first and foremost, and it would cost alot less to do so. Solid veteran relievers don't cost near as much as a proven or young starter. Texas could trade mid level prospects and fix the bullpen. I'd love to see us add a starter for the right price, but we will see how that works out. For now we are still in first playing well, so no need to make a rash decision.

Every day Eddie is looking worse with every outing.

Seriously, I was watching him against the Jays tonight and when he threw his first fastball I said "yep, here comes a homer and a good inning for the Jays", yep.. it happened

That kid Moscoso looked like he could have some upside somewhere but his 89-90mph fastball with no movement and little control aint gonna get the job done in the show.

Mathis... where do I even begin. This guy is a horrible pitcher by major league standards. His control was awful, his breaking stuff is flat and his fastball is 88mph. Are the Rangers honestly going to leave this guy in the rotation?

Bottom line is, the Rangers need to make a move for a top 3 starter and a reliver right now if they intend on hanging onto 1st place because the Angels arent far back.