Stark On Deadline Deals

Me thinks the Cubs might be looking to trade some pitching to get some offense.

I don't see how Doug Davis is a goo fit for the Mets...They need bats, not pitchers.

"One official says the Pirates would "love to move Jack Wilson.""

Is it just me or does it seem like we've heard this from PIT every year for the last three years only for them to botch moving him by asking for too much?

I wonder what Young would cost. In the right environment he might still turn out to be a solid player.

Why is Holliday accepting arb a bad thing? He accepts arb, the A's have a really really good player on a 1 year deal. Considering that the entire starting rotation and the 2 best bullpen guys all make league minimum, the A's have cash to pony with.

If they trade Holliday, they'll get a solid return. Even if it means the A's have to eat salary to get the return they desire.

Young needs the Halladay treatment. Send him back through the minors for 1.5 years and let him regain some confidence. He still has the physical tools to be an All Star and his attitude is better than advertised

"One executive believes Brian Giles "should get released."

I mean, when you have the worst WAR of any qualified player in the game at -1.6, then that's obviously a possibility. Even for one of the most underrated players of the decade.

"Is it just me or does it seem like we've heard this from PIT every year for the last three years only for them to botch moving him by asking for too much?"

I don't understand Pittsburgh's fascination with Wilson.

I get that they've sucked for a long time so even a decent player gets hyped a lot, but god damn.

Wilson is a solid defensive shortstop, but he's been a below replacement level hitter in six of the last eight years, and he's had one season with an OPS over .690 in the past five years. And he's paid like he can hit. The guy shouldn't land them anything, so they should appreciate getting salary relief and a prospect, if that.

I wonder what the Tigers would have to give up to get Holliday from Oakland?

I wish the Cards would look into Kouzmanoff and Young or Tracy and Davis. Both sets would be upgrades at 3rd and in the Cards rotation, respectively.

"im wondering if he meant he should get released from SD, as in traded, not cut"

No.. he said released, my guess is that he meant released. The guy has been absolutely freaking horrible this year.

He's been the worst player in baseball so far this year statistically, so you can't just blame the park.

Could the Mets trade for both Davis and Tracy?

Posted by: GD31892 | June 18, 2009 at 02:43 PM

Yeah, all the D-backs want is a bag of Wright's bats. I know it seems like a bad trade, but the Mets can take that hit.

Tracy only moved to 1st because of his bad knees. But this year he's been pretty solid at 3rd. It's kinda funny watching him throw to 1st though. It seems he has to put all his might into every throw.

"Where does this deal fall apart?"

When the deal clearly benefits the Giants and hurts the Padres.

San Francisco does give up some talent but they land the two best pieces in the deal in DeRosa and Kouzmanoff.

Kouzmanoff has declined as a hitter but oddly enough he's hit much better at Petco than away from it this season. But he's still a decent get as there's still some good upside in hit bat, not to mention that he's improved his defense at third base. And he doesn't hit arbitration until next season.

Meanwhile, they're going to give up Meredith too, who's been one of their best relievers recently. He hasn't posted an FIP over 3.91 in each of his four full seasons in the majors, and even in Petco that's still pretty good.

If the Pads were willing to give up Kouzmanoff and Meredith, they could land far more value than Schierholtz and Laffey, who don't appear to be much more than mediocre everyday players at best.

"scribble, Tracy was good but like someone else said, he moved cause of injury. I thought he also had arm problems, but im not sure."

Didn't know that, but either way, he's pretty much worthless unless he starts hitting like he did pre-2008.

I don't think Sosa and Pucetas would be enough to get DeRosa, and Jonathan Sanchez's trade value is down the toilet, which is the problem.

Sosa, Pucetas, and Matos for DeRosa on the other hand, seems like too much for the Giants to give up (though I may be higher on Matos than most, despite his MLB struggles).

DeRosa to SF seems like an obvious fit though.

Garko is also available since he will be Arby Ellig. after this season same goes with Shoppach the Indians right now could replace both no problem.

If the Giants would offer that deal for DeRosa it would be a done deal IMO.

I have heard the latest rumors are that the cardinals would offer Motte and Boggs for DeRosa.

Unless totally overwhelmed I look for the Indians to wait until right at the deadline

In that case, hypothetically, could the deal be re-worked to involve the Nationals and look something like...

Giants get:
2B Mark DeRosa
1B Nick Johnson

Nationals get:
1B Ryan Garko
RHP Osiris Matos

Indians get:
LHP Joe Beimel (gives them a quality lefty reliever)
RHP Henry Sosa
RHP Kevin Pucetas

Doesn't seem like the Nats get shortchanged here since Beimel and Johnson are both free agents after this season...unless they'd prefer the draft picks.

Thoughts?

The Giants don't need Mark DeRosa's bat. They're not going to be a playoff contender. It's a bad deal because it benefits the Giants greatly.

Delmon Young is "exceptionally available."

Where is the quote from, since you don't reference a source or article.

Delmon Young is "exceptionally available."

Where is the quote from, since you don't reference a source or article.

Posted by: rememberthecoop | June 19, 2009 at 12:57 AM

From the referenced Stark article. In the "Ready to rumble" section, 7th headline:
" The Young and the deal-less: The Twins are out there hunting for bullpen depth and young middle infielders. It probably won't come as a shock that they're letting teams know the enigmatic Delmon Young is exceptionally available. "

Delmon Young isn't finished imo and if he can be had for cheap it'd be a low risk high reward type.
The Mets most certainly aren't a fit for Doug Davis ... top of the rotation SP or bats ARE!
I don't know why it keeps getting wrote but WHY THE HELL WOULD MATT HOLLIDAY ACCEPT ARBITRATION?
And does it really need to be said that the Brewers aren't looking to trade Gamel or Escobar?
Of course they're not.
He is the best player availible in the FA class this year, he's playing well in a pitchers park, he's in his prime, he's a star & he's actually playing good defense this year.
Why would he accept arbitration to stay in Oakland? Especially when he figures to sign a 4-7 year contract that will more than set him up for life AND basically let him pick where he wants to play?