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The Yankees will have interest in flame-throwing lefty Aroldis Champan once he establishes residency in another country and becomes a free agent, according to Yahoo's Tim Brown and ESPN.com's Jorge Arangure Jr.. The 21-year-old just defected from Cuba and his agent says he could be ready for the majors by spring.
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Nice, this guy has an electric fastball. I was at the game he pitched against Mexico i think it was, don't remember. His delivery is much like Dontrelle Willis, though he has much better stuff. He'd be a nice fit for the Yanks, a hard throwing lefty.
Posted by: Spieg7 | July 02, 2009 at 01:26 PM
When i first saw him pitch in the WBC i said wow this kid has electric stuff. Yankees fans will be very pleased once the Yankees acquire this kid. He is going to be dominant and is one hell of a prospect.
Posted by: FreeSide | July 02, 2009 at 01:30 PM
Here we go with the "Yankees are going to sign him" posts. I can't imagine any team that wouldn't be interested in this guy...Yanks, Mets, Boston, LA, LAA, Philly, Cubs the list goes on and on.
Early reports are that he'll command anywhere from $30 to $60 million and the major market teams have the cash to dish out. Especially considering that this kid has great stuff and he's only 21 (even if he's lying about his age, he's still young enough to garner a solid contract)
Posted by: NickA33 | July 02, 2009 at 02:14 PM
Any 21-year-old lefty that can throw 100 with any sort of control and command is a big-time prospect.
Any team in baseball to dismiss this guy is making a mistake.
Even if the guy costs something like $30-60M to sign, you're still looking at one of the best prospects to come along in a while, someone on the Price/Strasburg/Porcello level.
Posted by: scribbletone | July 02, 2009 at 02:15 PM
Once again, there is already a 60% chance he is going to Chicago. They have one of the biggest Cuban legends in baseball in Jose Contreas and already have a history of signing and developing Cuban players. This is no different the Dayan Viciedo. He will come to the White Sox and feel comfortable and get some money while he is at it.
Posted by: ChiSoxKilla23 | July 02, 2009 at 02:25 PM
Exactly my point scribble. I just get a kick out of the fact that all Yankee fans already have him in pinstripes...laughable.
Their pitching does suck though, so I could see why they would overpay for him.
Posted by: NickA33 | July 02, 2009 at 02:25 PM
No need for a top 15 draft pick in the June draft when you have a f*cked up International system. Here yah go Yankees have a "Strasburg".
Posted by: HumanToilet | July 02, 2009 at 02:26 PM
ChiSoxKilla23; do the Sox have the money to spend on him? I thought they were tight with salary this year?
Posted by: NickA33 | July 02, 2009 at 02:38 PM
Once again, there is already a 60% chance he is going to Chicago. They have one of the biggest Cuban legends in baseball in Jose Contreas and already have a history of signing and developing Cuban players. This is no different the Dayan Viciedo. He will come to the White Sox and feel comfortable and get some money while he is at it.
Posted by: ChiSoxKilla23 | July 02, 2009 at 02:25 PM
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Where did you get the number 60% from other then it being wishful thinking for you? I'll give you a better guess theres a 99% chance he goes to the club that offers the most money. Also this is different from Viciedo because hes a different player. If you think this guys taking millions less to play for the White Sox your delusional.
Posted by: CosaOneNYC | July 02, 2009 at 02:43 PM
Looks like you guys should maybe not be in aany kind of a hurry to place him in your favorite teams plans. From ESPN:
"But unlike Strasburg, his market will not be restricted to the one team that drafted him. It may be about six months before his situation is settled to the point where teams will be able to make bids. But when that can happen, you can expect a Daisuke Matsuzaka-like feeding frenzy to ensue."
Posted by: johns | July 02, 2009 at 02:43 PM
Dice-K feeding frenzy is fine with me. My squad is the Mets and I'm not saying they will get him but six months helps out so we can dump salary (Delgado, Wagner, Castillo). It will improve our chances at least...
Posted by: NickA33 | July 02, 2009 at 02:48 PM
This just in: The Yankees are interested in Yu Darvish once he becomes available. Stay posted!
Posted by: InvalidUserID | July 02, 2009 at 02:54 PM
"Their pitching does suck though, so I could see why they would overpay for him."
It does?
Posted by: V | July 02, 2009 at 03:05 PM
Once again, there is already a 60% chance he is going to Chicago. They have one of the biggest Cuban legends in baseball in Jose Contreas and already have a history of signing and developing Cuban players. This is no different the Dayan Viciedo. He will come to the White Sox and feel comfortable and get some money while he is at it.
Posted by: ChiSoxKilla23 | July 02, 2009 at 02:25 PM
Theie "History" of developing cubans isn't all that special. They've signed Viciedo and Ramirez recently, and I can't really say they spent too much time "developing" Ramirez. Viciedo doesn't look all that hot in the minors, and he's only been in the organization for a few months. Contreras probably won't still be a White Sox player by the time he's cleared by the government, and I'd guess there's a good chance Castro is gone too. I'd say the Yankees have a much better "History" with cuban defects than the Sox.
Posted by: 86 Mets | July 02, 2009 at 03:16 PM
Difference between Dice-K, Contreras, and Strasburg vs. this kid is that the first 3 were considered MLB ready at the time of their contracts. This kid still needs to mature.
Posted by: yanks09 | July 02, 2009 at 03:16 PM
Difference between Dice-K, Contreras, and Strasburg vs. this kid is that the first 3 were considered MLB ready at the time of their contracts. This kid still needs to mature.
Posted by: yanks09 | July 02, 2009 at 03:16 PM
Strasburg isn't considered ML ready, and he doesn't have a contract yet. His secondary pitches are much more refined though.
Posted by: 86 Mets | July 02, 2009 at 03:26 PM
Strasgburg could step into the majors right not and be effective though. Supposedly he could be as good as AJ BUrnett if he were to pitch today. He can get better but he is good enough to do it at the major league level. Chapman needs to get better first before he can pitch in the ML. Thats the difference.
Posted by: yanks09 | July 02, 2009 at 04:23 PM
No way strasburg can step in the majors and be as effective as AJ Burnett right from the start...expecting that is pretty ridiculous. He pitched well in an above average conference in college, that's a long way from the majors. If the Nats tossed him in the majors today, he'd be very lucky to be league average, and would probably be pretty stunted in his development. Let the Nats sign him first, and then give him some time in the minors. The fact the the guy has been hyped as much as he has doesn't mean he's ready to compete in the majors.
Posted by: 86 Mets | July 02, 2009 at 04:31 PM
Chicago Mobsters - Pick # 280 out of 288 Selections in the 2009 Mid-West Baseball League Draft... How's that for scouting?
http://www.straybaseball.com/mwbl/drafts/draft.php?year=2009&type=DFT
I drafted Chapman before he pitched in the 2009 WBC. (02/21/09)
Check out the Mid-West Baseball League.
http://www.straybaseball.com/mwbl
Posted by: straymwbl | July 02, 2009 at 04:39 PM
Exactly my point scribble. I just get a kick out of the fact that all Yankee fans already have him in pinstripes...laughable.
Their pitching does suck though, so I could see why they would overpay for him.
Posted by: NickA33 | July 02, 2009 at 02:25 PM
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Funny....I didn't know Yahoo's Tim Brown or ESPN.com's Jorge Arangure was a Yankee fan. You must be refereing to them because I don't remember reading any prior posts to yours by a proclaimed Yankee fn that made a statement that he would be Yankee. The hate...it must blind people.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | July 02, 2009 at 05:05 PM
If MLB baseball ever got its act together and worked with the MLB Players Association, the fairest option would be to create an International Draft (excluding Canada) and allow teams to draft non-resident players begining at age 16 and retain control for six or seven years while they matriculate in the minor leagues. Upon reaching a major league roster, they would then have exactly the same status as residential players.
Posted by: bernie | July 02, 2009 at 05:31 PM
If MLB baseball ever got its act together and worked with the MLB Players Association, the fairest option would be to create an International Draft (excluding Canada) and allow teams to draft non-resident players begining at age 16 and retain control for six or seven years while they matriculate in the minor leagues. Upon reaching a major league roster, they would then have exactly the same status as residential players.
Posted by: bernie | July 02, 2009 at 05:31 PM
It's not a union issue at all...none of the affected players are members of the union, and aren't until they sign a pro contract. It also would be a legal nightmare...in most countries a draft system wouldn't be legal.
Posted by: 86 Mets | July 02, 2009 at 05:58 PM
What am I missing here? Why doesn't MLB require all baseball players under a certain age (e.g. 23) to enter the June draft regardless of origin? Is there some fundamental flaw in this? It would still allow professional vets from the Nipon league, etc to be treated as Free Agents.
Posted by: HumanToilet | July 02, 2009 at 06:22 PM
What am I missing here? Why doesn't MLB require all baseball players under a certain age (e.g. 23) to enter the June draft regardless of origin? Is there some fundamental flaw in this? It would still allow professional vets from the Nipon league, etc to be treated as Free Agents.
Posted by: HumanToilet | July 02, 2009 at 06:22 PM
Foriegn labor laws...
Posted by: 86 Mets | July 02, 2009 at 06:29 PM
If MLB baseball ever got its act together and worked with the MLB Players Association, the fairest option would be to create an International Draft (excluding Canada) and allow teams to draft non-resident players begining at age 16 and retain control for six or seven years while they matriculate in the minor leagues. Upon reaching a major league roster, they would then have exactly the same status as residential players.
Posted by: bernie | July 02, 2009 at 05:31 PM
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That would have to exclude Japan as well. They have a major league system set up already, most players that become mlb players come here after 7 years of service already and most of the major guys like Dice-K, Matsui, Ichiro, etc were already major, major stars making several millions of dollars in Japan. No way they should be included in an international draft where 1 team owns their rights and thus removes their leverage from getting faor market value. You can put a guy like Dice-K, who comes in at a mature age of 26 and goes straight to the maors, thru the same process as a 16 year old Latin prospect who'll probably spend 2 years developing in the Dominican and then another year or so in the DSL before they even enter the US minor league system. A lot of these guys flame out in low A where as the Japaneese players are closer to being major league ready at signing.
Also, some teams spend a lot more money on international scouting than other teams. Even though the Pirates, for example, signed two prospects from India, they obviously will spend less money on international scouting outside of Latin America than other teams. And to my understaning not every team has academys in the DR nor particapate in the DSL leagues. That being the case is it fair for 15 teams to spend resources in terms of money, personnel and time to scout and develope pre-16 year old players just to have the other 15 teams eligible to draft and pick thru the players they've put in a position to be showcased, scouted and drafted?
I don't know if there's a perfect way to set up the drafting of international players. Obviously there are major markets such as the DR, Venezuela, Cuba, Panama, Japana and Taiwan where numerous players have been signed but teams are digging and digging to find newer international prospects. How do you address those emerging markets? What if the Red Sox scout and find a gem of a prospect in Thailand? What if the word got out about the prospect? Would it be fair for the Yanks to come in and poach off of someone elses find?
I think the best solution is to limit international drafting to particpating Latin American countries (DR, Venez, Panama, Puerto Rico. Each of the 30 mlb teams would be required to set up a mini-baseball academys that must adhere to certain standards regarding education, money stipends, etc in those countries. "Handlers" would be eliminated so they couldn't direct players to certain teams and each year conduct a draft based purely off of a lottery system. At age 16 players are eligible for the draft. Have a set minimum for what a player drafted can be offered; maybe $50,000 for the 1st 2 years, rasied to $100,000 at age of 18 if moved to the DSL and or minor league system and a sloting system for the 1st round with the max being $3 mil which gradually adjust every few years to coincide with the value of the dolllar, etc. As far as other Latin countries not listed above, teams should be allowed to sign them as free agents at the age of 16, as they do now. As for Japan and Mexico their players should be allowed to be signed as FA as well becuse their leagues are a lot more advanced and carry a lot older players than what you usually see in the draft. Any other talent not from the North or South American continents should be eligible FA and are open game as well.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | July 02, 2009 at 06:42 PM
pardon the typos...didn't proof read.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | July 02, 2009 at 06:43 PM
Why should teams that skimp on scouting be rewarded? Some teams have extensive scouting in Asian countries, Europe and entire BB academies setup in Latin American countries. Why should teams that refuse to spend be rewarded that refuse to spend on international scouting be rewarded with an International draft? Knock the large International players in the draft and large market teams all you want, but it is the Boston, NYY teams that massively spend mostly all over the world for scouting and development by and large to find these people, not the Pirates, Nationals etc..
Posted by: johns | July 02, 2009 at 06:58 PM