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Twins Acquire Orlando Cabrera
6:59pm: Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that the A's will send a total of $500k to the Twins.
12:45pm: Via Twitter, La Velle E. Neal III of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune says the Twins are also getting cash in the deal.
12:08pm: Yahoo's Tim Brown said it was a done deal, with the Twins sending shortstop prospect Tyler Ladendorf to Oakland for Cabrera.
Cabrera, 34, is hitting .280/.318/.365 on the season in 448 plate appearances. He has $1.75MM remaining on his contract, once you factor in a $250K bonus for being dealt. Though he profiles as a Type A free agent after the season, Cabrera's agent wisely negotiated a clause disallowing his club to offer arbitration. So, no draft picks for the team for the loss and no impediment to signing Cabrera from the player's point of view.
11:56am: Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle says Cabrera to the Twins is "very close." Slusser says Valencia is not part of the deal.
11:41am: La Velle E. Neal III of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune doesn't see the Twins as close to a deal for Cabrera. The A's apparently want third base prospect Danny Valencia. Neal wonders whether the Twins might go after David Eckstein or Kennedy instead.
FRIDAY, 1:26am: ESPN.com's Buster Olney reports that the A's and Twins are making "steady progress" as they discuss a deal that would send Cabrera to Minnesota.
THURSDAY, 11:31pm: Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports report that the Twins are making progress in their attempt to acquire Cabrera. The teams continued talking today and expect discussions to resume tomorrow.
9:30am: Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle has a few hot stove notes on the A's this morning.
- Despite interest, the A's do not intend to trade infielder Adam Kennedy. They might even try to re-sign him for 2010 eventually. The 33 year-old is hitting .296/.350/.434 in 327 plate appearances while playing second and third base. Oakland acquired Kennedy back in May from the Rays.
- Slusser debunks a Providence Journal report from Daniel Barbarisi that the Red Sox turned down a trade for Orlando Cabrera. Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe agrees with Slusser, saying Cabrera "is not keen on returning to Boston."
- We do know that the Twins have talked to the A's about O-Cab. Bob Elliott of the Toronto Sun says the Twins are "still chasing" Marco Scutaro as well.
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What was the reported offer the Sox turned down? If it wasn't too steep, they most definitely would have pulled the trigger.
Posted by: bosox15 | July 30, 2009 at 08:31 AM
totally unrelated... who wants to bet that Tim Alderson is suffering from some kind of injury? I'll bet the Pirates bought damaged goods
Posted by: oxfrat1665 | July 30, 2009 at 08:39 AM
@oxfrat1665 They may be the Pirates, but they still would have done their homework on him. I guess it's always a possibility, but if it did come to light that the Giants were hiding some sort of injury from the Bucs, they'd have to send a different player instead of Alderson.
Posted by: steelrhino1 | July 30, 2009 at 08:56 AM
Kennedy and Cabrera have been leading the Oakland hitting attack as of late. It would be great if both could be resigned to a one year contract for next season. A's do not have to move them.
With young pitching staff, experienced players are quite valuable when they know how to win. This pair of infielders know how to do such.
Posted by: Jayhawker | July 30, 2009 at 09:17 AM
As an A's fan I'd love to have both these guys back... but not with Ellis already in the fold. Only Cabrera makes sense if Ellis is staying.
Posted by: jclay | July 30, 2009 at 09:23 AM
"Kennedy and Cabrera have been leading the Oakland hitting attack as of late. It would be great if both could be resigned to a one year contract for next season. A's do not have to move them."
Kennedy, yes. Cabrera, no.
Does anyone remember Cabrera prior to July? He's still declining both offensively and defensively, and one hot month isn't going to change that.
Kennedy makes more sense than Cabrera IMO since he has the better bat and can cover multiple positions. With Wallace penciled in as starting 3B next year and questions about whether he'll keep that position or move to 1B/LF/DH, its good to have someone else who can play 3B. And Ellis is injury prone.
Posted by: melonis rex | July 30, 2009 at 09:40 AM
Cost of getting Cabrera to sign an extension is the unknown factor here. I doubt that Cabrera would sign another contract for the same reasonable amount if he continues to hit as he has recently. OTOH, Kennedy may also be overpriced. We will just have to wait and see.
I do not see Wallace in the bigs until the end of next season unless he turns an invite to spring training into a promotion as a can not leave in the minors promotion. He is not going onto the 40 man roster until such action is forced by his play. He needs to improve his play at 3B and that is not a knock against him.
Posted by: Jayhawker | July 30, 2009 at 10:33 AM
has billy beane gone into a coma?
kennedy, cabrera, wuertz: three ht vets, get what you can. get what you can for anybody but suzuki and sweeney (and even then: Listen!)
this team SUCKS
who cares if they win another game this season?
Posted by: crash | July 30, 2009 at 01:34 PM
I would like to see a trade that sent Aaron Harang and Johnny Gomes go to Oakland for the forementioned Orlando Cabrera and Dallas Braden.
Posted by: Bauwls44 | July 30, 2009 at 11:59 PM
I don't really see Cabrera being that big of an upgrade over Harris. I think they are just bringing in a more proven guy to appease Mauer and Morneau.
Besides, I don't think the Twins have good enough starting pitching to win the ALC, especially now that Slowey is done.
Posted by: fenway_faithful | July 31, 2009 at 01:50 AM
Id do Bailey+Gomes for Cabrera+Gio. Sound reasonable to everyone else?
Posted by: PL | July 31, 2009 at 03:31 AM
Cabrera is having a fantastic month which gives him some trade value. Prior to that he was abysmal and worse than a replacement player for a lot of that time. Added to that his defense has taken a big drop this year and he will be 36 next season. Signing him to an extension would be a mistake - the A's should get what they can for him now.
Posted by: DeJay | July 31, 2009 at 03:38 AM
has billy beane gone into a coma?
kennedy, cabrera, wuertz: three ht vets, get what you can. get what you can for anybody but suzuki and sweeney (and even then: Listen!)
this team SUCKS
who cares if they win another game this season?
Posted by: crash | July 30, 2009 at 01:34 PM
The only reason we would not listen to any offers for Sweeney is because he is so bad nobody would want him. Ok a bit of an exaggeration but he shouldn't be in the starting lineup let alone on the untouchable list.
Posted by: DeJay | July 31, 2009 at 03:40 AM
If the Athletics get rid of Orlando Cabrera, they'll be an official AAA team. None of their players are pro quality, you can even argue that Kennedy is a AAA player on most teams too!
Posted by: leebaker03 | July 31, 2009 at 07:23 AM
The Twins don't need Cabrera he not much better than what they have... They need Scutaro and if they could not get Freddy they will screw this up to....Scutaro has much better stats twice as many walks..
Posted by: twinsd | July 31, 2009 at 08:36 AM
I think that this would be a big move for the Twins, allowing them to move Harris to his original position, 2b. If that were to happen, Cabrera would be a huge upgrade over Punto or Casilla.
Posted by: R.I.P. Kirby | July 31, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Would the Red Sox or Twins be at all interested in Khalil Greene? He's kind of been outplayed of a position because of Brendan Ryan's defense.
Posted by: Cody | July 31, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Leebaker, i'll agree that they are not a very good team this year but Orlando Cabrera is hardly the best player on that team. And if you think Cust, Suzuki and Hairston are not quality major leaguers then you need to re-evaluate your level of MLB knowledge. Calling the A's a AAA team is pretty rediculous, especially when you consider the quality young pitching up and down their roster.
Posted by: jpshark | July 31, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Twins would be smart to go after Callaspo from KC.
Posted by: revive85 | July 31, 2009 at 11:46 AM
2008 all over again - division up for grabs, glaring need for arms and...nothing. I can live without a marginal middle infield upgrade, but to not address the current state of the rotation is pathetic.
Posted by: jhawk90 | July 31, 2009 at 11:53 AM
"Danny Valencia is not part of the deal, I'm told."
~Slusser
Thank GOD. As long as we didn't give up anything major, this is a fine move, and there's still time to get an arm (either a starter or reliever).
I only pray that Ron Gardenhire has the common sense to let Harris be the everyday second baseman over Punto.
I can't take much more of his feeble at-bats, terrible baserunning, and erratic arm in the field. Although, Punto can turn a double play considerably better than Harris.
Posted by: MorneauVP | July 31, 2009 at 12:05 PM
If this deal is real. Than that is a fantastic deal for the Twins. They didn't give up that much at all in Ladenorf.
Posted by: SwarzakGuy40 | July 31, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Don't like the deal much, don't want Cabrera, but meh on both sides. The difference between Valencia and Ladendorf is... notable, to say the least. So far Ladendorf seems like the sort of player I really don't want to combine with the Twins coaching staff: basically trash, but capable of occasional huge hot streaks. They'd probably handle him like they did Cristian Guzman, and who needs that again?
Posted by: twinstapir | July 31, 2009 at 12:18 PM
this is the best the twins could do to try and convince mauer to stay??
Posted by: Mikey Roederer | July 31, 2009 at 12:30 PM
If the Athletics get rid of Orlando Cabrera, they'll be an official AAA team. None of their players are pro quality, you can even argue that Kennedy is a AAA player on most teams too!
Posted by: leebaker03 | July 31, 2009 at 07:23 AM
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You could argue that - if you knew nothing about baseball. Kurt Suzuki, Jack Cust, Scott Hairston, Adam Kennedy, Dallas Braden, Brett Anderson, Andrew Bailey, Brad Ziegler, Michael Wuertz and Mark Ellis are all major league quality players.
Posted by: DeJay | July 31, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Probably smart to get something for Cabrera, since even though he is a Type A, I am assuming that the A's DEFINITELY would not want to pay him an arb reward this offseason should he accept. That would be a pretty big risk the way he has played, so I am not sure it would have been likely they would have even offered after the season
Posted by: wayne gomes | July 31, 2009 at 12:50 PM
I would like to see a trade that sent Aaron Harang and Johnny Gomes go to Oakland for the forementioned Orlando Cabrera and Dallas Braden.
Posted by: Bauwls44 | July 30, 2009 at 11:59 PM
And this is why you are not a GM. This trade makes zero sense for the A's and their position in the standings.
And it's "aforementioned."
Posted by: Jason F | July 31, 2009 at 12:56 PM
He has a clause in his contract that states that the team cannot offer him arbitration to avoid the problems he faced getting a contract last off season.
Posted by: DeJay | July 31, 2009 at 12:58 PM
The Twins need to go after a pitcher now. Losing Slowey for the season was a huge loss and Liriano missed his last start. Also they could use some bullpen help.
Posted by: R.I.P. Kirby | July 31, 2009 at 01:03 PM
THIS is why the twins ahven't made a deal yet? They're unwilling to give up their 32nd ranked prospect?! (according to aaron gleeman at least)
Bill Smith's head on a platter.
Posted by: Jeff from MN | July 31, 2009 at 01:30 PM
I hate 90% of all Twins fans. You complain that the Twins never make moves and when they make a move you complain that they didn't get enough. Cabrera is a HUGE upgrade over Punto don't even kid yourself. Even if Cabrera only has a .330 OBP the rest of the way he'll be better than Mr. .200 OBP Casilla. Yes this move makes sense. Will it push us over the top, that remains to be seen. But at least they are trying something without giving up much of the future.
Posted by: jloons42 | July 31, 2009 at 01:40 PM
I played with Tyler back in a high school league. He can hit, has amazing speed, but on the downside, he's SO lazy.
Posted by: bjuptown | July 31, 2009 at 01:54 PM
Well the Twins now have the 08 White Sox left side of the infield. This will help the Twins offensively as I think even Cabrera's .683 OPS is better than Nick Punto. But Cabrera has rapidly declined defensively. He has committed a ton of errors this year and playing on the cement will not help. Plus he's a malcontent, which is why the Red Sox didn't want him back.
Also, he is a free swinger, which Gardenhire hates. I don't think this is a good fit.
Posted by: southsider | July 31, 2009 at 02:30 PM
A's continue to get high draft picks that struggle in their first year from very recent drafts. I have to say this appears to be a successful strategy. Ladendorf must be one of these. 2nd round pick, probably ranked pretty high on lots of draft boards and has had a slow start.
Donaldson, a guy picked with a similar strategy is interesting. I look at Donaldson's stats after his first full season with the A's and think Donaldson will be a great pro. An .829 OPS with 32 doubles and 72 walks. Its very hard to say which players will make it to the pros, but that kind of batting line says the chances are good.
Posted by: FamousGrouse | July 31, 2009 at 04:13 PM