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By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 17, 2009 at 1:58pm CST]
Aroldis Chapman, Yu Darvish and Stephen Strasburg "represent the best pitching talent in the world that is not yet in the major leagues," so ESPN.com's Keith Law grades the trio of pitchers. Here's his take on each one:
- Aroldis Chapman is a 21-year-old lefty who just defected from Cuba. He relies on a fastball that touches 100 mph and has the makings of a good slider. That combination could make him a top reliever and better secondary stuff could help him realize his ceiling and become a top starter.
- Yu Darvish is a 22-year-old righty who pitches in the NPB and has said he doesn't think about pitching in the States. He relies mostly on a low-90s fastball and a slider, but has other pitches. Right now, Law says Darvish could do better in the majors than the other two pitchers because of his deeper repertoire and experience against top competition.
- When the Nats selected Stephen Strasburg first overall in last month's draft, they got a pitcher who can touch 100 mph and throws a power curve. Law suspects that minor leaguers won't hit the 20-year-old righty, so he may have to learn in the majors. Of the three pitchers, Law says Strasburg is the best long-term choice to become an elite starter.
I still wonder whom Darvish will choose when he jumps the pond
Posted by: 04Forever | July 17, 2009 at 01:59 PM
I really believe Darvish does not want to pitch in America. He already had a shot to get a nice contract in the MLB and turned it down.
All the money in the world does not mean anything if you can't enjoy with your friends and family because they are thousands of miles away. I actually respect him for his decision to stay in Japan.
Posted by: yanks09 | July 17, 2009 at 02:02 PM
"I still wonder whom Darvish will choose when he jumps the pond"
"I really believe Darvish does not want to pitch in America. He already had a shot to get a nice contract in the MLB and turned it down"
He doesn't have a choice where he goes...the team that offers the highest posting fee has exclusive negotiating rights. He hasn't had a shot at a big money deal, he has never been posted. The team gets to decide whether to do that or not.
Posted by: 86 Mets | July 17, 2009 at 02:07 PM
I think that if you could have any of them, it would probably be Darvish, then Strasburg, then Chapman.
Darvish has a bigger arsenal, more experience, and near equal upside to Strasburg.
My big concern with Strasburg is if he can really stay healthy given the extreme increase in his velocity from the time that he graduated high school to the beginning of his junior season at SDSU. He was sitting at 88-92 when he first got drafted, but when he went to the Nationals he was regularly throwing 96-99. That type of increase in velocity has to have some negative effects on his shoulder and elbow.
I think that you're looking at the three best pitchers that aren't pitching in the MLB or minors right now.
Posted by: scribbletone | July 17, 2009 at 02:14 PM
All have plus stuff but out of all of them, Darvish has faced the toughest competition and fared well.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Yankees overpay for Darvish if/when he becomes available after what happened to them with Dice-K. But seeing as how Darvish won't be available for a while...
...they will likely pay through their nose for Chapman.
Sucks for almost every team not named Yankees, Red Sox & Mets when it comes to throwing money for talent.
Posted by: InvalidUserID | July 17, 2009 at 02:43 PM
All have plus stuff but out of all of them, Darvish has faced the toughest competition and fared well.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Yankees overpay for Darvish if/when he becomes available after what happened to them with Dice-K. But seeing as how Darvish won't be available for a while...
...they will likely pay through their nose for Chapman.
Sucks for almost every team not named Yankees, Red Sox & Mets when it comes to throwing money for talent.
Posted by: InvalidUserID | July 17, 2009 at 02:43 PM
Darvish is playing this smart. He will pitch in the MLB but when he chooses. Right now Darvish has no power on choosing who he pitches for and he takes a major pay cut bc of the posting element of NPB system.
With the Red Sox getting Tazawa and other teams joining them in potentially grabbing more young talent, the NPB and MLB are going to have to change the current system, which will include the posting system. IMO, the deal will be that MLB must stay away from Japanese born players under a certain age, similar to college and the NBA's agreement on age, and NPB will let MLB teams compete for NPB players at an earlier stage in their careers.
Darvish is waiting for a change in the system, then he goes where he wants for CC type money. Darvish and his father have stated that Boston is a team and city they like, but under the current system Boston would have to get lucky or drastically overpay like they did for Dice-K.
Darvish is only 22, he will be in the MLB by 25. There will be too much money lost if he stays in NPB.
Posted by: CircusFresh | July 17, 2009 at 02:49 PM
Darvish and his father have stated that Boston is a team and city they like, but under the current system Boston would have to get lucky or drastically overpay like they did for Dice-K.
Posted by: CircusFresh | July 17, 2009 at 02:49 PM
This is the exact quote by Darvish's father:
"I love the New York and Boston area. If he ever makes it there, I don't know, it's up to him, anywhere in the States is good"
Darvish himself has never publicly commented on a preferred destination, as his team in Japan and his agent have asked him not too.
Posted by: 86 Mets | July 17, 2009 at 03:07 PM
Darvish is awesome, he's years ahead of Strasburg and Chapman.
Posted by: Will Smiff | July 17, 2009 at 04:05 PM
Actually the full quote was...
"I love the New York and Boston area. If he ever makes it there, I don't know, it's up to him, anywhere in the States is good, but I personally love New England."
Posted by: SteveG | July 17, 2009 at 04:12 PM
Actually the full quote was...
"I love the New York and Boston area. If he ever makes it there, I don't know, it's up to him, anywhere in the States is good, but I personally love New England."
Posted by: SteveG | July 17, 2009 at 04:12 PM
Where did you find that? Not disputing it, but Newsday and the Post both only showed the first part of that.
Posted by: 86 Mets | July 17, 2009 at 04:31 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=darvish Above the picture of his father
Posted by: SteveG | July 17, 2009 at 04:51 PM
"I still wonder whom Darvish will choose when he jumps the pond"
"I really believe Darvish does not want to pitch in America. He already had a shot to get a nice contract in the MLB and turned it down"
"He doesn't have a choice where he goes...the team that offers the highest posting fee has exclusive negotiating rights. He hasn't had a shot at a big money deal, he has never been posted. The team gets to decide whether to do that or not."
This is not exactly how it works. He isnt just sold like cattle. He can either wait until he becomes a free agent and come here freely, or he and his team can agree before then to "post" him so that whichever MLB teams wins the rights to negotiate with him for 30 days will have to pay the posting fee to his team as compensation for their loss if he signs. If he doesnt sign in that 30 day window he remains with his Japanese team. But most importantly, he and the team have to agree to post him. If he's a free agent, they have no say in the matter and he's like any other FA.
Posted by: king64 | July 31, 2009 at 02:25 PM