Mets, Braves Swap Church For Francoeur

Braves fans need to quit freaking out and trying to make a regrettable trade to temporarily fix our OF problem. Josh Willingham if the nats aren't looking for much makes sense or Alex Rios if the Jays want to dump salary for some mid level prospects but quit with the pierre type players who only represent marginal upgrades and make a lot. This off-season will provide lots of opportunities to upgrade RF/LF through either FA or a trade

THANK YOU FRANK WREN!!! I have doubted him many times since he became GM but wow to get such a high return for Failcouer is impressive.

As a Braves fan I couldn't be happier with this trade. The player I hate the most is going to the team I hate the most. In other words, I wouldn't wish Jeff Francoeur on anyone -- except for the mets.

Church is a balls to the wall player who is injury prone because of it. Bobby Cox is gonna love having him on the team.

The worst aspect of this trade for me is that with it being the Mets, I don't feel like I can really hope for Frenchy to turn it around for his own career's sake.

Don't know much about Wren but those of you complaining about Wren have nothing on us Met fans with Omar at the helm. ANYONE watching Met baseball knows our #1 problem right now with all these injuries is anemic offense. So JF helps in that area how??????

This is a clear win for the Braves.

And I'm a Met fan. Sigh....

Church is a class act with a great work ethic. Hate to lose him right now, but good luck to you Ryan.

I'm really surprised that Francouer isn't a Royal because of course Dayton loves him and isn't crazy about DeJesus or Teahan and from Wren's perspective it would have made it a lot easier on the fans to accept. Every Braves fan knows from here on out they will be rooting for Francouer and just hope the Mets loose. Jeff said all the right things today and nearly burst into tears when talking about his teammates and Bobby. Here is the reprocution that I'm shocked no one has mentioned. What does this mean for Brian McCann long term. When he hits free agency in a few years will he be less likely to stay now that his best friend since he was 12 is now gone. It may not, but if he walks you have to wonder. Anyway an end to speculation, Ryan Church will platoon with Diaz in right, Bobby said that was his current plan. Do ya'll realize Church hits .161 against lefties, so maybe that is for the best.

Wow, Braves fans might just be the worst, all things considered. Yankee fans and Red Sox fans like to overhype their prospects, but wow, you Braves fans and your trade proposals are borderline hysterical. And citing doubles, errors, and strikeouts as reasons for trading...wake up to the new era of baseball for the love of God.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure I saw one Brave fan post that Matt Diaz reminded him of Pete Rose. Find a new sport, bub.

Sorry to the intelligent Braves fans out there, but they were few and far between in this post.

drphonic7: why don't you find you're own thread to whine & be cynical little bitch! last i checked this was mlbtraderumors, so why not talk about braves related trade rumors in a braves related trade rumor thread. next time add something constructive instead, jackass!

Wow, Braves fans might just be the worst, all things considered. Yankee fans and Red Sox fans like to overhype their prospects, but wow, you Braves fans and your trade proposals are borderline hysterical. And citing doubles, errors, and strikeouts as reasons for trading...wake up to the new era of baseball for the love of God.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure I saw one Brave fan post that Matt Diaz reminded him of Pete Rose. Find a new sport, bub.

Sorry to the intelligent Braves fans out there, but they were few and far between in this post.

Posted by: bucs_lose_again | July 10, 2009 at 09:54 PM

There really haven't been many trade proposals outside of Kotchman who's defense is overrated imo. Yes he's a plus defender at 1B but he gives all that back with his mediocre hitting. Yeah he has a decent average and hits some doubles but his OPs, namely his SLG is downright pathetic for a first baseman. As for the ridiculous three way trade between the phils, braves, and jays i can't really explain that. Why Philly would deal Jayson Werth for Medlen and garbage is beyond me. Every fan base overvalues their prospects especially mid market teams like atlanta because well we have to, they are really our only means of getting top notch talent because we aren't going to win many free agency bidding wars. I agree it gets out of hand sometimes but it is what it is

i left out that francoeur has more potential and 25-26 than church at 31. I think frenchy will be a doubles machine and reinvent himself like wright at citi

lmfao goldberg. that is how i feel sometimes about frenchy. i feel like this is a pretty good trade for us, although i do reflect the thoughts of what someone else posted about the mccann repercussions. i think church is going to do much better out of citi field, and francouer will do much worse in citi field. church is pretty horrific against lefties, so maybe a platoon would be best. but that means GA has to play against lefties...sigh, the braves still need another outfielder.

"i left out that francoeur has more potential and 25-26 than church at 31. I think frenchy will be a doubles machine and reinvent himself like wright at citi"

This is puzzling for a couple reasons.

First, age doesnt matter as much as talent and control time; sometimes people forget that. Francoeur might be younger, but you only have 1-2 years to find out if he will grow before he is gone anyway. And Church at 31 or Church at 32; it isnt a big difference. Church is just better though, normally by a fairly large margin. Even if he regresses slightly, Francoeur will have to progress quite a bit to reach the level. So you are banking on one getting better at the same time as one getting worse to break even - in a very short amount of time. Likelyhood? Extremely unlikely!

Then, “reinvent himself like wright at citi”? How exactly did Wright reinvent himself? Having one of his weakest seasons is reinventing himself? That statement had me scratching my head big time. First, you have to go down to come back up – something Wright never did. But then, this is a guy who’s defense has faltered quite a bit and has seen an offensive production decrease from the last two years.

Really, just an all around horrible post.

Kevin, do you even know what you're talking about? Does that crack taste good? Jeeeeeesus Christ.

The Braves just traded their open wound for the Mets' band-aid. Wren, I had some reservations, but looking back on the offseason and the more current McLouth and Church trades, I will never doubt you again.

I wish Francoeur the best, but he needed to go.

frenchy wont solve any of the Mets power problems. He's slugging like .350 in normal parks, he'll get it under .300 at citi

Am I the only Mets fan who is happy with this trade?

Potentially Franceur can be the starting RF we need without any sort of price attatched.
Church was always going to platoon in RF.
We get potentially a full time RF with a great arm and high ceiling in exchange for a decent RF who wasn't the same since his concussion and was nothing more than decent.

I have trouble understanding this trade from a Braves perspective, they would have been better off going for Jose Guillen in exchange for Franceur.

Mets win this trade by a country mile.
I think Omar is pretty good with his trades its just his free agent signings or lack of on occasion(*Cough* Adam Dunn)that bring him down.

I've just been researching on Fan Graphs and reality has hit me...HARD.
Yes the Braves most certainly did win this trade...by quite a bit.
And Ryan Church is a surprisingly good defender...I always thought of him as being around league average in RF.

"...the entire Mets organization are a bunch of clowns."

A fan of the team that has spent about $200 plus million a year for the last 5-6 years and hasn't won a thing since they started testing for steroids should be the last to bash the Mets.

OhPityMe, That was a classic series of posts. I actually laughed.

This seemed to be a trade more to benefit the players in hopes that a change of scenery would help there slumping season(s). That seems quite obvious.I feel indifferent about this trade living in New York and being a Braves fan.

"Guess it doesn't matter...Church will only be here the rest of the season. I'll find it hard to believe if the Braves offer him arb. next year."

Posted by: braves4life | July 10, 2009 at 05:56 PM

This is probably untrue. Garret Anderson will probably retire or go back to California. Where the Braves would pick up a contract left fielder i.e. Holliday. Platooning Diaz and Church in right. Don't tell me Diaz isn't surprisingly good this season either.

Ever since Francoeur came into the league, he's been my favorite player, until this year. I was fed up with the struggles he constantly brought to the plate, which led me to believe that he could not hit major-league pitching. It wouldn't matter who it was, they would always make Jeff look overmatched.

So Frank Wren, Thank You. We subtracted from defense, however, when Church is FA or if we trade him this OS, we'll have an outfield of Johnson in Left, Schafer in Center, and Heyward in right.

This trade makes no sense to me . They have identical stats .And besides the mets arent going to make the postseason this year . Sorry met fans injuries can kill a team . delgado out till august its just a disaster.

**Bump**

Great trade Wren!!!