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9:55pm: According to T.R. Sullivan of MLB.com, the Astros will receive a third player in the deal if the Rangers make the playoffs. Sullivan confirms that Vallejo is believed to be the second player and must clear trade waivers.
8:15pm: Jason Grodsky of MLB.com is reporting that the Astros are receiving two players to be named along with Nevarez.
4:07pm: MLB.com's Brian McTaggart reports that the Astros will acquire infielder Jose Vallejo along with Matt Nevarez. Both players are 22.
2:10pm: Pat Lackey of AOL FanHouse hears that minor league reliever Matt Nevarez will head to the Astros along with another player.
1:22pm: Jeff Wilson of the Dallas Morning News reports that the Rangers are responsible for a pro-rated portion of Pudge's $1.5MM contract, which includes $1.5MM in incentives.
1:16pm: Jon Heyman of SI.com hears that the Rangers are giving up two mid-level prospects to acquire Rodriguez.
12:47pm: MLB.com's Noah Coslov reports that the Rangers acquired Pudge for a player to be named later.
12:18pm: The Rangers are close to re-acquiring Ivan Rodriguez, according to MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan. Sullivan says the Astros would obtain two mid-tier prospects for Rodriguez, who starred with the Rangers from 1991-2002. The Rangers have told Rodriguez that he will back Taylor Teagarden up and Pudge understands the arrangement,
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Interesting. Pudge should be a decent backup to Teagarden now that Salty is most likely done for the year. Of course the last time the Rangers made the playoffs in 1999, Pudge was the catcher. Prophetic symmetry perhaps?
Posted by: DerekSTheRed | August 18, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Will David Murphy give Pudge back #7 out of respect to the veteran?
Posted by: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1357007800 | August 18, 2009 at 12:24 PM
The Rangers could have a ceremony where Murhpy takes off his jersey to reveal his new #77 jersey and gives #7 back to Pudge a. la. Borque/Esposito.
Posted by: DerekSTheRed | August 18, 2009 at 12:26 PM
YES!!! NO MORE PUDGE! NO more rally killer! and we get 2 prospects! NICE!
great job wade!
Posted by: Go Stros Go | August 18, 2009 at 12:26 PM
If this deal goes through I wonder if the Astros will give JR Towles another shot or if they will call Jason Castro up from AA.
Posted by: Laputian | August 18, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Well there goes my idea of trading Brian Schnieder to the Rangers...
Posted by: Jorge Says No! | August 18, 2009 at 12:33 PM
I'd imagine Towles will get the call up. Castro is already heading to Europe to play in September, with the AFL after that.
Posted by: astrosfan76 | August 18, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Nobody is getting called up, the Astros already have two catchers on their roster: Humberto Quintero and Chris Coste.
Posted by: DrNo990 | August 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Could be a good deal as long as the Rangers gave the Astros a couple of go-nowhere prospects.
Posted by: MadmanTX | August 18, 2009 at 12:50 PM
oops, nevermind. Now it's a PTBNL...Probably, Eddie Guardado or someone else who needs to be jettisoned. Maybe it could be Padilla and the Astros would be willing to take over the contract? That'd be nice.
Posted by: MadmanTX | August 18, 2009 at 12:53 PM
What possible value would the Astros get from dealing Pudge for Eddie Guardado?
And the Rangers released Padilla, but even still, why would the 'Stros ever have taken on his salary?
The PTBNL will be a mediocre prospect, and if it's actually two pieces, then it could really be a tremendous deal for Wade.
Posted by: MorneauVP | August 18, 2009 at 01:11 PM
I remember when pudge was 5 years past a productive player and yet, he STILL demanded to get his 500 at bats.
Enjoy the view from the pine bench ego maniac...
Posted by: tuna411 | August 18, 2009 at 01:14 PM
"I remember when pudge was 5 years past a productive player and yet, he STILL demanded to get his 500 at bats.
Enjoy the view from the pine bench ego maniac..."
Pudge had no problem being a backup in NY last year. Hopefully he carries that attitude with him to Texas.
Posted by: jvg019 | August 18, 2009 at 01:40 PM
how about engel beltre and martin perez for pudge?
Posted by: averybear11 | August 18, 2009 at 01:45 PM
The guys the Astros got: Matt Neverez is a 22yr old A-ball guy which a history of injury and a PTBNL.
Posted by: Andy | August 18, 2009 at 01:47 PM
oops. My grammar sucks. Matt Neverez is a 22yr old A-ball guy who has been injured on and off throughout his career.
Posted by: Andy | August 18, 2009 at 01:48 PM
no chat today?
Posted by: stlcards16 | August 18, 2009 at 01:56 PM
we could have gotten martin perez and someone else.
this is bull.
we may as well just tear our team apart, and i'd be all for it, but we have some idiots in office...ed wade...drayton mcclane. sell the team, you morons because you certainly don't know how to run one the correct way.
we need a total rebuild.
PERIOD. our team is old and in 2 years, we will have nothing, either get some top tier prospects now, or let them go to free agency or some bull crap we always pull instead of doing something sensible for once.
Posted by: averybear11 | August 18, 2009 at 02:13 PM
you expected to get a top prospect for Pudge?
Posted by: Dallas | August 18, 2009 at 02:17 PM
"Interesting. Pudge should be a decent backup to Teagarden now that Salty is most likely done for the year. Of course the last time the Rangers made the playoffs in 1999, Pudge was the catcher. Prophetic symmetry perhaps?"
They are lined up to play NYY in the first round to like every other time they have been to the playoffs.
Posted by: Boomer | August 18, 2009 at 02:18 PM
"we could have gotten martin perez and someone else.
this is bull."
That is insane. He is considered untouchable by the Rangers as he is already in AA at 18 (maybe 19). The kid is a stud and they would not trade him for less than 1/2 a year of an aged pudge. You got no quality prospects because you didn't give up anything of real value.
Posted by: Boomer | August 18, 2009 at 02:20 PM
I am a reporter and spoke to ed wade personally about it and he said he'd rather have 2 prospects than 1.
Posted by: averybear11 | August 18, 2009 at 02:22 PM
Wow, a good move by Ed Wade, that's fairly rare. For the Rangers this is an indefensible trade. How do they rationalize trading two minor leaguers for such a poor player? I know cathers aren't truly expected to hit but a .662 OPS is bad. Pudge is well past his prime, other than occasional descent defense he offers nothing to a team except a large number of outs. It appears that Ed Wade took Jon Daniels to the cleaners.... whodathunkit?
Posted by: pageian | August 18, 2009 at 02:52 PM
"I am a reporter and spoke to ed wade personally about it and he said he'd rather have 2 prospects than 1.
Posted by: averybear11 | August 18, 2009 at 02:22 PM"
Lol, you're my new favorite poster. Hilarious.
Posted by: B3NG4L | August 18, 2009 at 02:55 PM
This was a very good move, the Astros can really use any infusion of youth that they can get at this point.
AVERYBEAR11: Wow, I don't even know where to begin with your posts. To have gotten anything at all for Pudge would be a steal and it only happened b/c of sentimental value...a bad way to run a baseball team.
Posted by: WHIPit | August 18, 2009 at 02:57 PM
This move is huge for the Rangers. 1) Pudge brings a ring to the clubhouse 2) Pudge brings veteran leadership 3) Huge moral boost for the fans. Not that we needed any. The Texas Rangers are the special story in baseball this year and this move just makes it that much better
Posted by: steven5575 | August 18, 2009 at 03:02 PM
Hearing on 1310 the Ticket here in DFW that Jose Vallejo is a part of the deal along with Nevaraz. Not sure how true it is, but that's a pretty good return for Pudge. The Rangers must have a lot of sentimental value to make that trade even.
Having said that, both players were never going to crack the Ranger's MLB roster and it clears a spot on the 40. Rule 5 draft implications may have also been a factor. If you feel you would have lost either or both players next year anyway, why not get Pudge for the playoff push. The extra attendance alone makes it worth it.
Posted by: DerekSTheRed | August 18, 2009 at 03:26 PM
Vallejo link.
http://newbergreport.com/article.asp?articleid=1578
Posted by: DerekSTheRed | August 18, 2009 at 03:30 PM
"we could have gotten martin perez and someone else.
this is bull."
ROFL. Seriously man? Wow, just wow.
Anyway, I don't see why everyone thinks this is such a bad deal for the Rangers. Nevarez didn't have a place in our system, and I'm hearing the second piece is Jose Vallejo. Good second baseman, but our starters name is Kinsler, our starting shortstops name is Andrus, and our third baseman's name is Young. He has no place here either, not in the foreseeable future anyway. So we basically gave up a couple of spare parts from our system, who by the way will look very good in Houston's weak system, for a very capable veteran backup who happens to be a fan favorite around here. This move is a win for both sides.
Posted by: TXHC | August 18, 2009 at 03:33 PM
Wait. Where are the delusions of making the playoffs this year? Why is Houston selling?!? They could still make a run!!!
I think the bad news here is Ed Wade actually made a smart move, for once.
Posted by: hcf | August 18, 2009 at 03:47 PM
The 22-year-old reliever has been excellent with Single-A Hickory this season, compiling a 2.83 ERA, 1.06 WHIP and 12.9 K/9 in 34 games (35 innings). There's little doubt he has a huge arm, but the Rangers likely would have left him exposed in the upcoming Rule 5 draft, so at least they got something in return.
Posted by: steven5575 | August 18, 2009 at 03:55 PM
Brett Perryman of the Dallas Morning News has a rundown of the two players here:
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/08/who-are-jose-vallejo-and-matt-nevarez.html
Posted by: DerekSTheRed | August 18, 2009 at 04:16 PM
Nevarez is nothing more than a middle-reliever and Vallejo is nothing more than a backup 2nd baseman.
Posted by: BravesRed | August 18, 2009 at 04:18 PM
"we could have gotten martin perez and someone else.
this is bull."
"I am a reporter and spoke to ed wade personally about it and he said he'd rather have 2 prospects than 1."
I'm not sure what's more ludicrous, your suggestion that the Astros could've gotten Perez, or the fact that you're (supposedly) a reporter in spite of your mental handicaps.
Tell me who you write for, so I can remind myself to never, ever read that publication again.
Posted by: scribbletone | August 18, 2009 at 04:39 PM
The Astros aren't going anywhere and Pudge isn't having that great of a season... so I don't understand why the Rangers would give up 3 guys (1 of which is a legitimate major league prospect) for Pudge. The Astros have a weak farm system, so trading Pudge for anything almost seems like a coup.
Posted by: Andy | August 18, 2009 at 08:28 PM
Boomer, the Rangers are not lined up to play the Yanks. Detroit plays them first as of now. And this team is nothing like the team of the 90's. Have you watched at all and seen that the pitching and defense is what we are all about? We will be scary when the offense gets back on track which it looks like it is. Yanks will choke this post season again anyway. Mr. When it doesn't matter I am clutch Rodriguez will tear them apart and bat about .100 again.
Posted by: OZ10 | August 18, 2009 at 09:27 PM
OZ10
How? I thought best record faced wildcard as long as they where in a separate division. Also, I live in Texas and have seen many rangers games. You bring up A-Rod choking, but how much faith do you have in Hunter, Holland and Millwood in a playoff series with the subpar offense backing it up?
Posted by: Boomer | August 19, 2009 at 01:17 AM
I'm not sure what's more ludicrous, your suggestion that the Astros could've gotten Perez, or the fact that you're (supposedly) a reporter in spite of your mental handicaps.
Tell me who you write for, so I can remind myself to never, ever read that publication again.
Posted by: scribbletone | August 18, 2009 at 04:39 PM
He's being satirical. Chill out.
Posted by: venn177 | August 19, 2009 at 01:18 AM
Giving up anything that projects to contribute to a major league team is probably a mistake for the Rangers. Pudge is the definition of replacement value at this stage in his career.
Posted by: cmpieper | August 19, 2009 at 11:14 AM