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Benching Costs Orlando Hudson

Talking to Jim Peltz of the L.A. Times, Dodgers manager Joe Torre would not commit to Ronnie Belliard over Orlando Hudson as the team's starting second baseman.  Belliard has started at second base in eight of the team's 18 games this month, as well as a few times at third.

Hudson stands to lose money as a bench player, though he was gracious in comments made to Peltz.  The way his contract is set up, Hudson is currently earning $10,000 per plate appearance up until his 632nd.  He's already earned $7.63MM on the season, despite a base salary of $3.38MM.

The larger effect of the benching may be on Hudson's next contract.  He faces strong competition among free agent second basemen, and will have a hard time topping this year's salary.


Comments

Hudson really comes off as a classy guy in his comments about Belliard.

Add that to last winter and him quietly shaking off a disappointing market for him and signing a lowball deal to join a winning team... Many players would have bitched and moaned about that, but Hudson never said anything negative.

He just really seems like a class act.

Would love to see this guy back in LA on a 3 year deal. Course, I'm also like, the only guy here who thinks Ned should keep his job.

Orlando Hudson: 21/3.

I think Hudson is just one of the few players who instead of EXPECTING to make millions and feeling ENTITLED to millions, is still very appreciative of his opportunities and blessings.

We all have his parents to thank.

Would love to see Hudson in Chicago next year. I was pretty critical of the Dodgers signing of him this offseason but its turned out to be a very good investment and he seems like the type of guy that it would be very easy to root for.

id love to have Hudson back on a one or maybe a one plus an option. the reason i say that is we have Hu, DeWitt, DeJesus, and maybe Abreu(depending on the Garland deal) all near MLB ready. The Dodgers feel that DeJesus and DeWitt could both be good starters(espically DeJesus), They arent sure about Hu because this is the first time his bat came to life. Any longer of a commitment to Hudson seems to block prospects and may force us to trade them in bad deals(look at Josh Bell)

i'd love to see him some how some way in a NY mets uniform

Of course he will be a Met. Isn't it obvious? The have a history of signing guys they shouldn't, so why not Hudson? They will give him a deal like they gave Castillo, and Hudson will be just horrible in it, as we would all expect him to be. He will continue to get worse at second base, his minimal power output will dip because of Citi Field, his range will continue to deteriorate, and the Mets will be stuck with him. Perfect. They have already made that mistake like 3 times in the last 10 years. Stop signing guys with limited skill sets to play 2B on the wrong side of 30. They fall of very quickly. But, we know it will happen, all the fans will be happy and then they will all realize what a bad deal it was and it will be too late. Sigh....

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Cubs go after Hudson. Given their recent trouble I can see them making a play for good character guys like Hudson. Being a switch hitter will help his case as well. Plus, they have an obvious need for a second baseman who can hit a little and play solid defense. Hudson isn't a star but he's still a good player, he would fit right in with the Cubs.

Not very often you can use the word class in the same sentence as LA. We have a first!

There's a guy in LA named Vin Skully who works for the Dodgers. If anyone is the personification of class, it is him.

Why is Huddy being benched anyway? He's a much better player than Belliard.

Not a Met's fan (obviously) but Hudson is the exact kind of player they should go after if he can be had on a quasi reasonable 2 or 3 year deal.

"Why is Huddy being benched anyway? He's a much better player than Belliard."

Not at the moment, he isn't -- on offense, at least.

Hudson, over the last month: .266/.329/.359/.688
Belliard, since coming to LA: .304/.339/.589/.928

Maybe if he gets a rest he'll be ready to catch fire again for the playoffs. If he can hit in October like he did in April... watch out.

"Not very often you can use the word class in the same sentence as LA. We have a first!"

Right. Show us how it's done in Boston.

I'm sure you meant Vin Scully, right?

slightly off topic but after reading the article i'm glad to see Sherill is playing for a winner and that he is producing for his new team. He'll be missed in Baltimore but i wish him the best. And Hudson did make some classy comments. If I were the Dodgers, I would prefer to bring back Hudson over Belliard though.

Or how about Tommy Lasorda, Jackie Robinson, Duke Snider, Gil Hodges, Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale, Orel Hershiser, do I really need to go on? I can. Brett Butler, Shawn Green, Kershaw/Billingsley/Kemp/Ethier/Broxton/McDonald/Martin/Loney. Don't take your misguided dislike of Manny Ramirez and the one or two guys like Jeff Kent and Milton Bradley and let it ruin your impression of a truly class-filled organization.

O's cool, but did you guys hear what he said I think last week?

Manny said "Me and O-Dog are gonna be back together next year."

Orlando went, "Not me."

then he started praising God, Mike Vick, President Obama

When I think of class I know my first thoughts are Red Sox fans.

Yanks, its because he has been in a month long slump. He played way too much for a guy coming off a major surgery at the start of the yr and Torre and company feel that rest may help him get back on track. Meanwhile, Belliard has been a beast since he came over. Id love to have Hudson back... but I dont think it will happen. He is one of the classiest guys in baseball.

RSD, we are the classless ones, but your the ones that had a 'dynasty'(as only you call it) with your top 2 guys being doped up. Oh, and your best prospect to come out of your system in the last 20 years(Hanley Ramirez) has an attitude the size of California. But yea, you are the classy ones...

When I think of class I know my first thoughts are Red Sox fans.

Posted by: bjsguess | September 21, 2009 at 05:17 PM

Word.

I absolutely love Hudson's attitude. I like seeing his smile out there everyday. I love that he plays hard. That being said, we can probably get more bang for our buck somewhere else... Stick Dewitt at second next year, and use the money on Lackey or somebody else...

I don't know where the Blake DeWitt Marching and Chowder Society gets its grub. You'd think he'd been tearing it up in Triple-A, or had played a lot of second base anywhere. He had a couple good months at the beginning of last season, and that's about it -- and yet the love-fest goes on. He could be good some day. But is he an everyday second baseman now? Ah... no. Just plain no.

Two thumbs up for O-Dawg. He knows how to stand up, and sit down.

blue, most people believe the struggles of DeWitt are because of the 6 times he has been called up. He has never been able to get comfortable in any one spot. Meanwhile, he plays great defense, is a lefty, has shown power(remember that bomb in Citi Field?). if he can get comfortable and get legit playing time with some mentoring, he will be a good MLB player. And if we cant sign Hudson(it would be stupid for the dodgers to commit 3 yrs to him when we have Hu, DeWitt, DeJesus, and maybe Abreu[depending on Garland deal] all SS or 2B in the high minors. Then we have Gordon at SS and Baez at 3b. We have too much IF depth to commit that long to Hudson

BIGGESTHOMER4LIFE, I guess Piazza, Beltre, Manny, Gagne et al are Charter Members of the "Doped Up Dodgers" teams of recent memory and how can we not say classy without the mention of Dodgers Chairman and racist ,AL CAMPANIS. To paraphrase his words, "Dodgers fans lack some of the necessities to , lets say, talk baseball. They also lack bouyancy and the ability to stay at a game past the 7th inning due to their lack of compassion". Yup, classy!

BIGGESTHOMER4LIFE, I guess Piazza, Beltre, Manny, Gagne et al are Charter Members of the "Doped Up Dodgers" teams of recent memory and how can we not say classy without the mention of Dodgers Chairman and racist ,AL CAMPANIS. To paraphrase his words, "Dodgers fans lack some of the necessities to , lets say, talk baseball. They also lack bouyancy and the ability to stay at a game past the 7th inning due to their lack of compassion". Yup, classy!

"blue, most people believe the struggles of DeWitt are because of the 6 times he has been called up"

That happens to a lot of players, and those call-ups are spread over two seasons. I'm not saying that DeWitt will never make it, but I'd cringe at the thought of having him be the starting second baseman next season, because he's just not ready IMO. He only just started playing second anyway.

Blue Sky, these are the 'transactions':

Transactions
Dodgers July 28: Activated pitcher Hong-Chih Kuo from the 60-day disabled list; optioned third baseman Blake DeWitt to Albuquerque of the Pacific Coast League (AAA); transferred pitcher Xavier Paul to the 60-day disabled list.
Dodgers July 12: Optioned third baseman Blake DeWitt to Albuquerque of the Pacific Coast League (AAA); recalled pitcher Scott Elbert from Albuquerque.
Dodgers July 6: Placed pitcher Eric Milton on the 15-day disabled list, retroactive to June 28; recalled third baseman Blake DeWitt from Albuquerque of the Pacific Coast League (AAA).
Dodgers June 7: Recalled second baseman Blake DeWitt from Albuquerque of the Pacific Coast League (AAA); placed pitcher Eric Milton on the 15-day disabled list.
Dodgers April 18: Placed first baseman Doug Mientkiewicz on the 15-day disabled list; recalled third baseman Blake DeWitt from Albuquerque of the Pacific Coast League (AAA).
Dodgers April 13: Optioned infielder Blake DeWitt to Albuquerque of the Pacific Coast League (AAA); purchased the contract of infielder Juan Castro from Albuquerque.


Six times before he was called up in September. He has been screwed over by being called up and down.

Honestly, I do hope they let him have a year at AAA with minimal up and down. However, if they cannot resign Hudson w/o giving him a 3 year deal, he may be the only option. I hope they let DeWitt plantoon with someone(possibly Belliard) and if he struggles, leave him in AAA. I dont think we can stand a whole year of Belliard.

the only other option I can think of is let it be a competiton of DeJesus, DeWitt, and a vet. Remember, DeJesus looked pretty good in ST this year before he broke his leg.

And RSD, if you base classiness on roids, you lose. The Sox had 10 guys off the top of my head, Manny, Ortiz, Canseco, Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Gagne, Jeremey Giambi, Mike Lansing, Mike Stanton, Maurice Vaughn. On the Mitchell Report, there are 7 guys who were from the Dodgers. If you then count in Manny(although he was mainly using in Boston), its 8. You have 10. You lose. And btw, I did not count Beltre because it was one ESPN who thought he used roids because he struggled in his first year in a new league and through April of the next yr. He ended the second year hitting 276. I think everyone on this site realizes that most hitters struggle when changing leagues. The fact that he has been productive since then makes me feel he has been clean the whole time.

Heres the link from of the Mitchell Report, with Sox guys in bold. Remember to add Manny and Ortiz to the list.

http://www.redsoxsuperfan.com/blogger/2007/12/13/steroid-report-list/

Okay, that's more than I remembered, but getting jerked around is part of being in Triple-A. Don't forget, DeWitt only got a shot at the big club last year because the two guys in front of him were injured in spring training. He did alright for a couple of months, then fell off sharply. I do agree with you that they should probably let him stay in Albuquerque for a full season, playing second. Maybe then we'll know if he's ready for prime time. Either way, I think the Dodgers will be players in the free agent market for second basemen this winter.

Here's my thinking.

Huddy is your best defensive 2b right? Check.

You're headed towards what you wish to be long playoff run right? Check.

Huddy was .295/.354 in the month of August right? Check.

In September he's been in a minor slump @ .250/.318 but isn't exactly being overwheled at ust 5 ko's in 40 at bats. In the playoffs you need his glove and you hope he can contribute with his bat. How is he going to get thru his little slump if he can't get regular at bats? In 40 at bats do you know what the difference is between hitting .250 and hitting .325? An infield single, a blooper to short center and a "seeing eye" single up the middle.

I can understand resting him once a week or taking him out when you have big leads late in a game but there's no question that he should be starting over Belliard....not even close.

BIGGESTHOMER4LIFE, I guess Piazza, Beltre, Manny, Gagne et al are Charter Members of the "Doped Up Dodgers" teams of recent memory and how can we not say classy without the mention of Dodgers Chairman and racist ,AL CAMPANIS. To paraphrase his words, "Dodgers fans lack some of the necessities to , lets say, talk baseball. They also lack bouyancy and the ability to stay at a game past the 7th inning due to their lack of compassion". Yup, classy!

Posted by: RED SOX DYNASTY! | September 21, 2009 at 08:31 PM
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RSD w/ all due respect I don't think Piazza or Beltre were listed on any lists. Unless they end up being on the infamous 104 list then it's not fair to lump them in as users.

After watching Torre manage for the last couple of seasons, I can see that his operative theory is to go with players when they are hot, and rest slumping players whenever possible. He does this with position players and pitchers. Belliard is hot right now, Hudson is not. Who can argue with the results? Twelve more games until postseason. I'm sure Hudson will start at least half of them. Then we'll see.

Also... way, way, WAY too much is being made of Hudson's incentive money.

Yanksfan, IMO players like Piazza, Beltre, Bagwell, Larry Walker, and Jason Schmidt were users who managed to do a great job covering their trail. Just an opinion. Sorta like how YANKEESDODGERSGIANTSFAN4LIFE keeps spewing his infomercial garbage about his dodgers as if they were the greatest team ever and how Kershaw is the 2nd coming of Koufax. Only difference is his opinion is garbage just like all his posts here!

Yanksfan, IMO players like Piazza, Beltre, Bagwell, Larry Walker, and Jason Schmidt were users who managed to do a great job covering their trail. Just an opinion. Sorta like how YANKEESDODGERSGIANTSFAN4LIFE keeps spewing his infomercial garbage about his dodgers as if they were the greatest team ever and how Kershaw is the 2nd coming of Koufax. Only difference is his opinion is garbage just like all his posts here!

Yanksfan, IMO players like Piazza, Beltre, Bagwell, Larry Walker, and Jason Schmidt were users who managed to do a great job covering their trail. Just an opinion. Sorta like how YANKEESDODGERSGIANTSFAN4LIFE keeps spewing his infomercial garbage about his dodgers as if they were the greatest team ever and how Kershaw is the 2nd coming of Koufax. Only difference is his opinion is garbage just like all his posts here!

RSD, you do realize that all of major league baseball realizes that guys like Kemp and Kershaw are two of the most valued guys in the majors. Espically considering they have 3 and 4 more years of control, respectively. Kershaw pitches next yr at 400K and Kemp goes to arbitration for the first time. Yes, they are some of the most valued players. Think of it this way, there is a reason the Bo Sox and Dodgers havent done anything major beside Manny in the last 5 years... they have wanted Kemp and/or Kershaw and the Dodgers laughed in their faces.

And when guys like Joe Torre, Honeycutt, Hershiser and even Koufax himself saying this kid could be one of the best in the majors. Accept it, Kershaw is gonna be REALLY good, better than Buccholz, probably by a long shot. I think you need to learn that the whole country isnt on the east coast.

Now do you see what I mean about this moron's infomercials! WHAT A TOOL!

Now do you see what I mean about this moron's infomercials! WHAT A TOOL!

The whole country isn't on the east coast but the best teams in baseball are! NYY, BOSTON, AND PHILLY!

RSd, you call me the tool, adn yet the STATS, which you seem to want to rely on, shows the dodgers have the 2nd best win % behind the Yanks, better than your Sox, and much better than the Phils. We will have a winning % over 600 after this game, we are leading 14-2. Oh, and this is the FIRST game against the Nats all year and we have another series against Pitt. We are the only team that still has games against the Nats(basically the whole season series) Pitt and SD.

we also have the best team ERA(btw, you have a ERA that is 0.8 runs higher than ours), bullpen ERA, the 3rd best BA (team) behind the Angels and Yanks, not the Sox. we are 4th in OBP. Hell, we are even 5th in KOs. Out pitchers have 1158 and the SFG have 1200 to lead the league. And the only team of the 4 thats going to the postseason is the Yanks. If you say that the Phils or even the Sox are better, you are being BIASED and not looking at the STATS...

Hahaha East coast fans have no life but to watch sports, enjoy ur teams while I'm kicking it with some bitchhes in the beach in november. HoSoxs!!

LDYFOURL otherwise known as the poster formerly known as LAKERSDODGERSYANKEES4LIFE, sorry to see your lack of faith in your teams has caused you to change your name out of fear of ridicule. The good side of this is that with your credentials as a blowhard and Billy Mays now gone, you can now be the new spokesman for THE SHAM-WOW infomercials!

LDYFOURL otherwise known as the poster formerly known as LAKERSDODGERSYANKEES4LIFE, sorry to see your lack of faith in your teams has caused you to change your name out of fear of ridicule. The good side of this is that with your credentials as a blowhard and Billy Mays now gone, you can now be the new spokesman for THE SHAM-WOW infomercials!

wow, your responce to someone throwing stats at you that prove the Dodgers are the 2nd best team in the majors, statistically, is about the name i logged in on, thats about 4 years old? wow... just wow

Replace "wow,just wow" with SHAM-WOW and embark on a career with a bright future where B.S. is the name of the game! I see a star in the making people!

pathetic... A grown adult is really this immature

Pathetic is a confused and insecure dodgers fan who comes on here day in and day out to talk about how great his team is on EVERY post? Are you a tranny per chance?

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