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Elias Rankings Update

At the end of each season, The Elias Sports Bureau ranks all MLB players numerically based on a bunch of stats.  Every player is categorized in one of five position groups and by league.  The rankings cover a two-year time period.  They are used to determine whether free agents are Type A, Type B, or neither.  If you'd like a reminder on how draft pick compensation works, read up here.

Eddie Bajek of Detroit Tigers Thoughts reverse-engineered the Elias Rankings last year.  Eddie's incredible work was made possible in large part due to information provided by ESPN's Keith Law.  Eddie is now providing the rankings exclusively to MLB Trade Rumors.  Today's snapshot covers the beginning of the 2008 season through September 25th, 2009.  The rankings will change over the remainder of the season.

View the latest Elias Rankings below.


Comments

Okay, Eddie. Do you care to tell us how Polanco jumped over Figgins?

"Do you care to tell us how Polanco jumped over Figgins?"

Polanco's batted .500 in his last 26 ABs. Not that Figgins has been bad, but still that's the only thing I can think of.

Who knew that 3 days could take you from Type A to None? Freddy Sanchez bounces around that list like crazy.

Hang on... let me check Freddy out. Something may be amiss.

It's probably the batting avg. Polanco was right on the heels of Cano, Kendrick, and Callaspo when Eddie ran the numbers on Sept. 7th. Over the past week, PP his hitting .500, Cano .360, Callaspo .346, and Kendrick .250 in limited action. For the month of September, all four players are hitting .348 to .386. I guess the difference when averaged over the two seasons is enough to vault Polanco over Figgins. Chone's score has hardly changed at all.
I think that being a Type A free agent increases the Tigers chances of keeping Polanco. I don't see a top 15 club being willing to give up a first round pick and sign him to a multi year contract. I'd definitely be offering arbitration to Polanco. He's one of the best contact hitters and the steadiest infielder in the game. I don't want to pencil in Scott Sizemore, sight unseen. I want Polly back.

The fact that Hart is higher than Cameron on that list really goes to show just how terrible the Elias ranking system is in general. They really need to update that thing.

Of course just looking at the system for 10 seconds shows just how terrible the thing is.

Sanchez has been fixed. Excel does some funny things with vlookup combined with web queries...

"Sanchez has been fixed. Excel does some funny things with vlookup combined with web queries..."

Excel does some funny things period. And now it got rid of your bolding...

But Sanchez as a B, that can't make the Giants very happy if they fail to retain him.

Sanchez is also shut down for the rest of the season now, so he'll most likely only go down from there. I doubt there's enough time that he would fall off the list. The Giants are going to try to keep him anyway, though so it might not matter.

I would make the following changes to the compensation system:
1. Award only "sandwich" or supplemental round picks to clubs that lose a Type A or Type B free agent player.
2. Assign Type A or Type B status based on a player's salary, regardless of position, rather than a statistical formula.
3. Place a hard limit of two on the number of Type A free agents that a club can sign in one year.
4. Give no compensation to a club that loses a free agent that was on their roster for less than one season.
These changes would eliminate the penalty that a player pays for being a Type A free agent, and that a club pays for signing a Type A player. This would also rank players according to their true market value and compensate their former clubs accordingly.
The limit is to prevent the richest clubs from hoarding the top free agent players, and it's a trade off for not having to PAY compensation for signing free agents.

Vernon Wells is type A
Adam Lind and Carl Crawford are type B.....Great rankings

and then theres Aaron Hill at Type B. Good job seeing as how hes the MLB leading 2nd baseman in home runs and second in hits

Tim Hudson has climbed up the rankings and is now very close to attaining Type B status.

If the Tigers can batter Carl Pavano, they might be able to knock him back down below Washburn and pick up a sandwich pick when he leaves as a free agent. I'm not sure they'd take the chance on offering him arbitration, even though he'll surely be looking for a multi year contract. Washburn had three lousy seasons before this year, and he's been terrible with the Tigers since the deadline deal. They should be able to get an idea of whether he would even consider a one year contract before the December 1st deadline.

and then theres Aaron Hill at Type B. Good job seeing as how hes the MLB leading 2nd baseman in home runs and second in hits

Posted by: Mpoolio | September 26, 2009 at 04:30 PM

It's based on two seasons and iirc hill was nothing special last year

I think Iwamura should be in italics. The Rays have a 2010 option on him so that if they do not exercise it he becomes a free agent.

Wow, Varitek is still type B.

I would be interested in hearing how someone like A.J. Pierzinski got a higher rating at his position than his colleague in the NL, McCann. I don't get it.

"I would be interested in hearing how someone like A.J. Pierzinski got a higher rating at his position than his colleague in the NL, McCann."

What are you talking about? McCann has a score of 82, Pierzynski has an 80.

Where would Brad Penny's ranking be listed? He seems to have gotten lost in the shift from AL to NL.

tigerdog, if one rule was a player had to be on the roster for one yr, then the trade deadline would have 1/2 the deals than usual. what would be the point in that.

Also, who cares how many type As someone signs? It sucks for the team losing the player and getting a bad pick, but thats baseball...

How could MLB justify giving A or B status on salary? that would mean Jason Schmidt, with 7 games pitched over the last 3 years, would be a type A... how would that be fair?

lakerdodger- Schmidt was definitely viewed as a Type A player when he signed his contract. IF he were to become a free agent again, and sign with another team, his NEW salary would be a true reflection of his market value and his old club compensated accordingly. How can MLB NOT justify setting compensation by salary- that's market value, by definition. It's as fair as you can get.
No, the trade deadline would not have half as many deals. Clubs could still pick up players for the pennant drive, as always, but they would not be able to buy supplemental picks in the process by renting players for a few weeks and then getting a draft pick, as if they've "lost" a player to free agency. This is a method for richer clubs to stockpile draft picks, and it should end.
Everyone cares about one club hoarding the top free agents, because it destroys the competitive balance of the game. It's a trade off for removing the compensation that clubs currently have to pay to sign Type A free agents.

Wow, Duchscherer is still a Type B. Hopefully the A's offer arb, since they need SP help next year anyway.

It's based on two seasons and iirc hill was nothing special last year

Posted by: bravesfan22193 | September 26, 2009 at 05:46 PM

im aware of that, my point is that there should be exceptions to the rule, counting a season where a guy was injured for 75 percent of it is stupid

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