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Odds & Ends: Rangers, Hawpe, Griffey, Matsui

Are you over that back-and-forth, edge of your seat Yankees-Twins game yet? If not, here's some links to calm you down...

  • Jeff Wilson of The Dallas Morning News provides a quick breakdown of each of the three bidders that are considering purchasing the Rangers. He notes that there is still no timetable for a sale to be complete.
  • Jim Armstrong of The Denver Post wonders about Brad Hawpe's future in Colorado after Jim Tracy used three lefthanded pinch hitters during Game Two of the NLDS, none of whom was Hawpe. With several younger, more athletic, and (perhaps most importantly) cheaper outfielders on the roster, Hawpe could be the odd man out.
  • When asked if he wanted to play in 2010, Ken Griffey Jr. replied "Um, yeah," according to Phil Rogers of The Chicago Tribune. Junior also qualified that by saying he'll do what's best for his family and for the Mariners.
  • Could Hideki Matsui stay in New York next year? Newsday's David Lennon thinks it may be possible, with the Mets instead of the Yankees. The one they call Godzilla has insisted he could play the outfield all season, yet the Yankees have only used him at DH because of his surgically repaired knees. Lennon notes that Matsui has also "told people he would consider trying first base," which would fit great for the team from Flushing.


Comments

Trying first base? I know he isn't left handed but there is another NL East team looking for some power...

Apparently, Lennon doesn't follow the Yankees. It has been widely reported that Matsui's knees swell up any time he tries to play the OF. Maybe he could play 1B passably, but I'm skeptical. I can't imagine that he would have any range at this point. Torre always said that it's much easier for players to move from the INF to the OF than the other way around. I think Matsui would prove him right.

I think Lennon is doing what pedestrian writers do...trying to stir the pot.

Even if Matsui can play the outfield, he would be a disaster in LF at Citi. Moving him to 1B is in an interesting option though...

i agree, matsui is not an everyday outfielder, with that said, he DOES NOT belong in the NL...
his a DH and for some reason i just dont see him as a 1B.

SS-Reyes
2B-Hudson
CF-Beltran
3B-Wright
1B/LF-Nady
C-Molina
RF-Francoeur
1B/LF-Murphy

SP-Santana
SP-Lackey
SP-Pelfrey
SP-Maine
SP-Perez

CP-Krod

Matsui will be back with the Yankees next year OVER Johnny Damon ... mark my words... heck it wouldn't surprise me to see both of them back, they have been that good

I would love to have Hideki in the line up. The guy can obviously still hit and I think he would be a nice replacement of Carlos Delgado as a lefty power bat. He absolutely murders left handed pitching, which is rarely seen in lefty power bats. He's a professional hitter. The problem is where to play him. I'm confident that he can learn to play 1B pretty easily, it's all about footwork the position isn't terribly difficult to learn. I think Hideki definitely has higher upside than Daniel Murphy and the option should certainly be explored. It's becoming more clear that the Mets will be in a bidding with the Cards and Yanks for Matt Holliday, a war they might lose. Matsui is a pretty good back up option to have to provide some power from the left side.

Matsui on the Mets is one of the worst ideas one could think of.

First off, no thanks to Damon or Matsui. Both are having very good years, but north of 35 and the last thing we can do is drop 25-40 million dollars on either of these guys. Break the bank for Holliday and be done with it.

And souvenir I am sorry man but that lineup is awful.

Hudson is way overrated and his yearly trend of declining defense is a worry. Castillo won't have as good a season next year but he can be counted on for a 360-370 OBP. Then at the bottom of the lineup you have 3 auto-outs.

Nady and his career 335 OBP
Frenchie no explanation needed... hes awful and has at times been the worst everyday player in baseball
Molina with a sub 300 OBP this year. No, lets spend our 40 million we have on Holliday at 5/90 and hopefully chapman at 4/50. If we can pry Fielder away for F! Holt and someone else (I hate to say Niese but it looks like its gotta be him) then do it.

the yankees are not going to sign holliday, the only way the even get in the bidding is if the sox are in and they want to drive up the price. damon will be the left fielder/dh next year, and i see matsui probably going to seattle, or at least an al team, no way he plays for either ny team next year

JPG -- I gotta feeling he will be in seattle also. Should jackson be ready by next year anyway? or is he projected for 2011?

SS-Reyes
2B-Hudson
CF-Beltran
3B-Wright
1B/LF-Nady
C-Molina
RF-Francoeur
1B/LF-Murphy

SP-Santana
SP-Lackey
SP-Pelfrey
SP-Maine
SP-Perez

CP-Krod

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Exactly how is your Mets FantasyLand team relevant to any part of the discussion at hand?

Ajax could probably use another year in the minors, and I don't think he is gunna be anywhere near as good as most yanks fans make him out to be. He was decent in aaa this year but nothing really special, played 132 games and 504 ab, he hit .300, 4 hr, 65 rbi, 24 sb, .354 obp

Yea at 22 more is expected in AAA. Itd help the yanks though to actuall develop a position player, its been a while besides Cano. I don't feel like going to MiLB stats but his ISO looks extremely low with 504 abs 4 hrs and a 300 avg.

I don't get the knocks on Ajacks 2009 year? Yes, he does need to cut down on his ko's. 100+ in AAA will translate into unacceptable numbers in the majors and is completely unjusitifable given the lack of pure power. However.....a 22 year old who hit well above .300 for most of the year (finished @ .300/.354) and seemed to hit the wall in July/August but had a decent September (.400/.400) and good playoff showing is nothing to sneeze at. I don't have access to more comprehensive minor league stats like BAIP but his struggles in July/August (.255/.310) were not because he was seemingly overmatched. His strike out totals over those two months weren't any different from the previous months when he was hitting .350/.400 (est). W/o the more sophisticated stats, it leads me to think that either he was very lucky in the beginning of the season or very unlucky towards the end of the year. Either way, he's probably more of a .280/.350 hitter than he is a .300 +/.400 + guy. His elite defense in CF and speed (24/28 SB) is also a plus for him. I think the thing working against him the most is that he was too hyped to begin with. I never thought he would be an "elite" mlb player. However, I think he will be a very good mlb CF'er ala Denard Span, Franklin Guiterrez or David DeJesus with upside potential to grow into the next Tori Hunter. If you look at Tori Hunter's minor league career and his first couple of seasons in the majors he wasn't much of a power hitter. In his minor league career (628 gms/2,273 at bats) he only hit .270/.334 w/ 62 hrs. Thru Ajax brief minor league career (564 gms, 2,200) he's hit .287/.355 w/ 30 hrs total. Hunter didn't start driving the ball until he reached his mid 20's. As Ajax matures and puts on another 15 lbs I think the power will come. For now, the Yanks would do well to accept him for what he is....an elite defensive CF with good speed and gap power. Only knock I see against him now is his propencity to strikeout and the possible inability to live up to the medias lofty expectations. If all he ever becomes in the next Devon White then he still would be a very good ballplayer.

no godzzila please

YFS78 -- Devo was freaking awesome for a few years there. If Ajax turns into a devo type you should be extremely happy. I dunno much about him just a quick glance at his numbers. I am not saying bust at all, I agree with you that he was hyped too much after the Tabata trade. He should be a decent MLB player.

With all that being said, I would prefer an improvement in LF. I would like to avoid another mega signing (no Bay or Holliday). Figgins would be a nice addition if he were willing to play LF. These are some interesting scenarios to consider.

#1-Sign Figgins and resign Damon.

Figgins (LF), Cabrera (CF), Swisher (RF), Damon (LF/DH) and Gardner (4th OF)


#2-Keep things status quo for one more year. See if Cabrera can continue to produce and what you have in Gardner. In 2010 introduce Austin Jackson into the line-up and go after Carl Crawford.

#3-Sign Mike Cameron and resign Damon.

Cabrera (LF), Cameron (CF), Swisher (RF) and Gardner (4th OF)

I wouldn't mind seeing Hawpe with the Cubs next year, he'd work well in RF, left-handed hitter. His home/road splits aren't bad, he's descent against left-handers. If they can give Bradley away and not get stuck with another overpaid outfielder maybe they could look into acquiring Hawpe. Bradley is a sunk cost, they're going to be paying him anyway, paying his salary shouldn't be taken into account when they look for another outfielder.

Matsui is a DH period end of story. No reason to take this seriously.

Matsui will join Guerrero, Konerko, Thome, Sheffield, Giambi, Dye and a host of other DH's scrambling to be among the first to land a 5M 1 year contract for 2010, the rest will be stuck signing for less as backups/pinchitters and may find themselves without a job period, much like Frank Thomas.

The Yankees WILL NOT sign Holliday or Bay. Neither makes sense for them, in my opinion. They've put together a winning club. Why mess with it. I think the Yanks can afford to sign Damon and Matsui to 1-year extensions and see if they can repeat the performance from this year, as the team they're set up to be already.

I think 1/$5 mil would be the worst for any of those guys with the exception of Giambi. Dye and Konerko might have more appeal because they can still play the field, although poorly. Matsui and Vlad might have the most offensive potential but clearly their knees have sapped them of their ability to contribute anything with the glove. In fact, a team would do well to prevent them from touching the field on defense and try to keep them as fresh and protected as possible. Both Matsui and Vlad still posses 30 hr/90 rbi potential and can still deliver a solid .280/.370/.500 line. I think a few AL teams could coffer Dye, Abreu, Matsui and Vlad at something around 1/$8 mil.

I "got love" for Matsui and truly thank him for his production and professional attitud over his time in NY, but I truly think it would be a major mistake for the Mets to sign him and give two seconds thought about him playing 1b. Asking a 35 yr old player with 2 bum knees to play a position he's never played in his career is a major mistake. The Mets just went thru a year filled with injuries to key players and poor defense. As much as they need an offensive infusion they need healthy players who can catch and throw the ball even more. Adam LaRoche should be FA option #1. Even Blalock and Eric Hinske would be better suited to man 1B than Matsui. Mets should not sacrifice defense and durability, especially not in a NL pitcher friendly ballpark.

YFS78,

No doubt Matsui, Dye, Konerko, Vlad all have good bats, it's just how many teams that will need a DH want to/be able to pay one more than 5M in 2010? I agree that Dye and especially, Matsui still have lethal bats, just maybe 2-3 open DH spots on teams that even spend money in the AL and there is not going to be a NL team spend more than 1-2M for any of those guys to be a PH. Tony Clark and all of his value as a SUPER switch hitting power PH bares that out.

Those guys had better not wait, or they will find Abreu money a pipe dream is my thought, Places like KC, Cleveland, Oakland are just not going to give them that much.

I agree with you johns, I just think that Abreu was somewhat of an abberation and that $5 mil will be the worst that guys like Dye, Matsui and Vlad will see. I don't think Konerko is a FA until next year though. I think Sheff and Giambi might struggle to get a better paycheck or even a job though.

I "got love" for Matsui and truly thank him for his production and professional attitud over his time in NY, but I truly think it would be a major mistake for the Mets to sign him and give two seconds thought about him playing 1b. Asking a 35 yr old player with 2 bum knees to play a position he's never played in his career is a major mistake. The Mets just went thru a year filled with injuries to key players and poor defense. As much as they need an offensive infusion they need healthy players who can catch and throw the ball even more. Adam LaRoche should be FA option #1. Even Blalock and Eric Hinske would be better suited to man 1B than Matsui. Mets should not sacrifice defense and durability, especially not in a NL pitcher friendly ballpark.

Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | October 10, 2009 at 06:14 PM

I agree with this statement to a certain extent. The only argument I would use is that 1B is not a particularly difficult position to learn. It's all about footwork and positioning, which obviously he would have plenty of time to learn. Daniel Murphy had never played 1B before this year and he stepped in and did a very nice job defensively I think. Now, granted, Matsui is 35 with bad knees and Murphy is 23, so I understand they are not of the same physical capabilities. However, if Matsui's knees are ok to take the punishment of playing the field, why not take a chance. He has much higher upside than Murphy, and is a much better option than bringing back Delgado, in my opinion. Nick Johnson and Hank Blalock are probably bigger injury risks than Hideki. So if you can get him for 1/5 why not take a chance? The guy can flat out rake and he abuses left handed pitching. I see your point, but I think it's a risk I personally would be willing to take.

Why do people keep saying Figgins in LF? He is not really an outfielder. Some of you said tht we should get a defensive upgrade in LF, but that doesn't make sense. The guy hasnt played lf so how does that make him an uprgrade. I dont understand why some of you do not want Holliday in New York? So what, at least we are not giving up the farm for him just some cash! Boston will not go for Holliday because they will resign Bay! And just to go a tad off topic (sorry in advance) Which pitcher will the Yankees sign this offseason as a 4-5 in the rotation, we probably won't find anything good in the farm?

Figgins can play just about any position o/n the field except for C. He's played LF 35x in 05/06. Now true, that's not a lot but he's athletic enough to make it happen. Just a thought.

As for pitching it all depends on Pettite. I think CC, AJ, Pettite, Joba (w/o the Joba Rules) and Hughes (w/ well conceived "Hughes Rules) w/ Wang, Gaudin, IPK, McAllister or Nova waiting in the wings could be a strong rotation. The only FA pickups that intrigue me would be Ben Sheets and Brandon Webb. If Sheets is healthy then he would be my #1 target. Maybe 2/15 with tons of incentives that could make it 2/30? A rotation of CC, AJ, Sheets and two of Pettite, Joba or Hughes with Wang waiting in the wings for a possible post-all star debut would be amazing, IMO.

Does anyone else think Brad Hawpe will be traded to Atlanta? I could even see a Hawpe-Hudson straight swap benefitting both teams.

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