Giants Rumors: Molina, Pudge, Bay, Holliday

"The Giants believe Matt Holliday's defense regressed a shocking amount last year."

The Giants obviously watched only one game last year.

Pudge on a one year deal sure is interesting. I don't believe the Giants will bring up Posey until late May or early June. Even if they do, Pudge probably can't catch 162 games, so a 60/40 percent split isn't a bad idea.

The only way Holliday has ever been considered a good fielder is when he's compared to the other great left fielders in the game... ie Manny Ramirez, Jason Bay, Adam Dunn etc.

5/$75mil. is way too much and they have to be gun shy on a contract of that size and length after Rowand.

I am a huge Giants fan and I would LOVE to see them sign Bay along with Nick Johnson, but I just don't see it happening... And 5/75 is just silly...

Every year the Giants pretend to be in a big FA outfielder.

So far they've come up with Aaron Rowand.

I don't think they'll put up the cash to sign Bay, but with their insanely good pitching staff they should break the bank and go for it.

Yeah, I agree on a 1 year for Pudge; he'd be a great mentor for Posey, who won't be ready to start next year.

Good idea for an incentive-laden contract for Nick Johnson too. They definitely shouldn't engage in the inevitable bidding war over J. Bay, but just wait it out on the OF situation.

5 years 75M is too much? Silly?

The Sox have been rumored to offered 4/60. That's 15M AAV. Maybe he takes a couple million less if someone takes on the 5th year he wants. Your probably looking at 70M at least IMO.

That is "too much" for Adrian Gonzalez? Man, that has to be the most comical thing I have seen in a LONG time. The Mets have NO chance at Adrian Gonzalez. None.

yea that is probably a little too much do u know anything about the mets farm system...Davis shits on ur precious Lars anderson....F-mart and flores are 2 of their top prospects...holt throws in the mid 90's and has been said to have #1 to #2 type stuff and so does parnell who throws 96-100..so please tell me how this wouldn't be a good package..LOL u have no idea what u are talking about u dumbass...

BoSox, being a Giants thread I'm speaking from the Giants point of view. With the Rowand contract for 3 more years and Zito for another 4, I don't see them commiting to a 30+ year old outfielder for 5 years. Has Sabean done it in the past? Sure. However with "Bowtie" leading the team now I just don't see it. We're supposing going in a different direction. We'll see....

Please stop embarrassing yourself. Out of all of those prospects, ONE of them are projected to be in Baseball America's top 50 next year. Just because they are "your" top prospects does not make them great prospects. Obviously you do not understand anything about contractual value, or else you would understand that under his current contract, Adrian Gonzalez is in the top 3 most valuable players in all of baseball. He also happens to be from San Diego and he is the face of the entire franchise. Gonzalez would take more to acquire than any other player in baseball save Felix Hernandez. I am going to hazard a guess from the intelligence level and rebuttal ability in your post that you are probably 12/13 years old? Get a clue. Mets have NO chance at Adrian.

LOL red sox fans are very stupid...Ike and F-mart are projected to be in the top 50 and flores and holt are in the top 100..and parnell has great stuff and had a pretty good year last year..

I agree with Longoria and Braun (they were my #1 and #2), but neither have put up the stats as long as Adrian has and both are signed for a long time. While this does create value, longer term contracts also assume larger risks. You are really splitting hairs when trying to decide who is more valuable between the three, however.

Beckett i dunno what you're talking about because 3 of those players are in the top 50. Ike Dave, Mejia and F-mart. They had 5 players in a recent top 100 list floating around. So check your facts.

Posted by: Moses Magnum | November 10, 2009 at 06:38 PM

The 2009 list has not yet been published, but if you are referring to the 2008 list, they had 4, not 5 in the top 100. Fmart was 30, Flores was 47, Niese was 77, and Holt was 94. Fmart and Flores were ranked as high as they were because of youth. Flores is 3 years away minimum and his top 50 staus is in question after a very average debut. Davis, who did not even make the top 100 last year, has an outside shot at the top 50, but that is unlikely. Holt, who barely cracked the top 100 last year, will not make the top 100 after his wonderful 6+ ERA last year at AA. Martinez has dropped each of the last 2 years in BAs eyes, and after his .175 performance in limited MLB action, I expect that trend to continue. In all, the Mets have some decent prospects, which is not a fact that I am arguing but even so, they still have 0 chance at Adrian Gonzalez.

I think Bengie resigns. Purely a gut call but he loves SF, and if you're a catcher you gotta love our staff.
I don't think the Giants are interested in Holliday at all. There might be too many questions about him after his time at the Coliseum (a much better park for hitters than AT&T).
Bay is their preference, but I don't think they go after any of the marquee free agents in this years class.
It's more likely that Sabean will make a play at Uggla. They Giants have flexibility with Pablo and Sanchez that would allow Uggla to play 2nd base. Sanchez can play 3rd, Pablo moves across to first and Uggla can play 2nd.
Uggla's glove is a liability though so The Giants might sign Nick Johnson to play first (great on base %), keep Pablo (plays one hell of a 3rd base) and Sanchez at their respective position then make Uggla the new left fielder.
That would solve a lot of the Giants offensive problems. and its more cost effective than signing Bay to an expensive long term contract a la Aaron Rowand.

Rf-Velez
2b-Sanchez
1b-Johnson
3b-Sandoval
Lf-Uggla
C-Molina
Cf-Rowand
SS-Renteria/Burris
P

That would be ideal. I don't know who we could trade for Uggla though. We might not have the prospects, but I think that would be a much better lineup long-term for the Giants (Sabean has been adamant about trades and free agents that make long-term sense) than Jason Bay, or Matt Holliday.

For 1B for the Giants, how about FA 1B Hank Blalock. I am not much on AL players, so I don't know much about him. Is his defense any good? Is he a pull hitter? Could he yank some into McCovey Cove?