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Orioles Rumors: Bedard, Third Base, Adam Jones

By Tim Dierkes [November 12, 2009 at 9:19am CST]

Jeff Zrebiec of the Baltimore Sun has the buzz on the Orioles...

President Andy MacPhail said he can't see himself trading a young, talented player for a short-term (one or two-year) fix. He left open the possibility of trading a young player to fill a different, more urgent need long-term.
Zrebiec says bringing Erik Bedard back to the organization has been discussed.
The Orioles may acquire bullpen help, but Zrebiec adds, "some team officials would be comfortable starting the season with Koji Uehara as the closer."
MacPhail admitted the third base supply is strong. Zrebiec says the O's have interest in free agents Adrian Beltre, Mark DeRosa, and Pedro Feliz, while Dan Uggla and Garrett Atkins are also known to be available.
The Orioles have not yet spoken to Mark Hendrickson's agent, nor have they made an offer for Aroldis Chapman.
It was close, but Adam Jones just missed being a Super Two. Since he won't be arbitration-eligible this winter, the Orioles will save millions.

Comments

Bringing back Bedard would make the trade more hilarious and insulting.

Posted by: start_wearing_purple | November 12, 2009 at 09:29 AM

Why would the Orioles have interest in presumably long-term options like Uggla or DeRosa with Josh Bell waiting in the wings? Seems to me like that would be an unnecessary use of resources, given that neither of those players will make them contenders in 2010.

Posted by: scribbletone | November 12, 2009 at 09:47 AM

I hope the O's trade A.jones to yankees he would be a perfect fit in pinstripes!!!LOL O's fans R probally like shut up!!!! But jus think A.Jackson our top prospect he play's CF and we would probally throw some arm's in their thats what BALT. needs

Posted by: jwestford | November 12, 2009 at 09:54 AM

"Bringing back Bedard would make the trade more hilarious and insulting."

... after the Orioles finished 21 games behind the Mariners in the 2009 Wild Card standings.

I look forward to the day that Baltimore fans celebrate a title instead of a trade.

Posted by: thrill55 | November 12, 2009 at 10:01 AM

"Thrill 55,"
Mariners fans have a lot of titles to brag about? Not quite.

"Jwestword,"
Take your Yankee elitism and get the hell out of here. Orioles would never trade Jones to the Empire. And Jackson isn't even that good.

Posted by: skoods | November 12, 2009 at 10:05 AM

DeRosa could be a reasonable fit. Cheaper than most FAs out there, can play around the field, wouldn't require as many years and could be trade bait this year or next with a strong performance.

Posted by: HollywoodHamels | November 12, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Mr. Jwestford,

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: mcamp7 | November 12, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Start wearing purple, that was the same thought I had and really throwing down a few million seems worth it just to bring the joke around to a full circle, I say they should do it. On other notes... the Uggla idea seems kind of stupid. DeRosa kind of makes sense because you could use him elsewhere (1B or LF??) if Josh Bell does play well enough to be promoted in which case you could also trade DeRosa at next years deadline (he always seems to be in demand) for another prospect. I also kind of like Adrian Beltre, not sure why really... OH and I really hope they'd throw more money at Lackey than that Chapman kid, atleast you'd get a proven veteran pitcher.

Posted by: RockvsSingleParents | November 12, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Bringing Bedard back for a couple of years would be a nice addition. I just don't know if it would happen; as I recall, there were some bad tempers before that trade happened.

Also, sweet deal with Adam Jones. It'll be interesting to see if/how the O's use that saved money.

Posted by: colaz | November 12, 2009 at 10:11 AM

"It'll be interesting to see if/how the O's use that saved money."

I think they'll wait. They have an interesting bunch of prospects in the minors but as we all know not every top prospects comes out as planned. I think the O's will wait to see what kind of team they have after Markakis, Jones, and Weiters, and then make some serious moves.

Posted by: start_wearing_purple | November 12, 2009 at 10:19 AM

MCAMP N SKOODS-

I hope u don't think E.bedard is the answer to ur prayers(like 1 million hailmary's) Giving up A.jones would b smart in the future ur not gonna b able to afford him neway Y hold on 2 him get pitchers in the mean time.AND by the way A.jackson is a 300 hitter he's like a granderson but younger with better AVG so u get THE HELL OUTTA HERE!

Posted by: jwestford | November 12, 2009 at 10:22 AM

O's don't really need another starter. Their rotation will smooth themselves out. It would be a nice pick up but its not something that they need to focus on.

Posted by: humannature | November 12, 2009 at 10:25 AM

@start wearing purple...

Yeah, MacPhail isn't one to just start throwing money around for the hell of it. I hope that's what they do. Maybe I've been drinking the Kool-Aid, but I really don't think this organization is too far. A handful of right moves could do the job.

Posted by: colaz | November 12, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Uggla would be a good fit at 3B for the O's. Seeing as the Marlins are getting rid of him for purely financial reasons he could possibly had for pretty cheap. He's under control for 2 more seasons, then a FA. At which point you should know if Josh Bell is the long-term answer or not at 3B. If he is, you collect Uggla's compensation picks. If not, you can resign Uggla as a 30 HR slugging 3B.

While adding Uggla wont make the O's contenders, he will drastically improve them. I understand rebuilding, but why not try to win a few more games, excite the fan base and increase revenues, while your best players are nearly ready. As long as it doesn't cost any pieces or $$ from your future

Posted by: Pat Metzger | November 12, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Dear jwestford, does typing the e in "be" really take that much energy out of you? Reading your completely pointless posts is like decoding a text message from a 7th grade girl reading and writing on a 3rd graders level. Apart from that, Austin Jackson hit .300 in the MINOR LEAGUES. You're that mouthbreather I see rapping out loud on the train everday here in NYC aren't you? Or wait, no, you've probably never even been to NYC, you're just an idiot smalltown dude hopping on a winning team to make up for how big of a loser you are, right? right.

Posted by: RockvsSingleParents | November 12, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Why is everyone destroying jwestford for his comment. While an Adam Jones trade to the Yankees is really far fetched (good, young, cheap, same division) its not as if he's proposing trading him straight up for Daniel Murphy (ala Mets fans).

Are you telling me that an offer of Austin Jackson and Phil Hughes wouldnt be thought of at least? Thats a top prospect plus a setup/closer/starter. So i wouldn't say that it is laughable, just unlikely that the 2 teams could come to an agreement.

Posted by: Pat Metzger | November 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM

"Maybe I've been drinking the Kool-Aid, but I really don't think this organization is too far."

No, it's not the Kool Aid. The O's have made some good drafting choices and some good trades giving them enough young talent and enough of a farm that they could actually do what the Rays did in 08. But again, not every prospect works out and it is the toughest division in baseball.

RockvsSingleParents, my advice, don't respond to someone who acts like a 6 year old. It's like a child having a tantrum in a super market. The best way to deal with the situation is ignore the kid and blame the parents.

Posted by: start_wearing_purple | November 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM

@jwestford

What?

Posted by: mcamp7 | November 12, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Yes, Pat, it wouldn't be thought of in the least.

Major league clubs are not farm teams for a handful of contenders. The Orioles are not, as jwestford suggests, too broke to afford Adam Jones going forward - indeed, with a payroll estimated at about $40 million after arbitration for 2010, they have tens of millions to spend just to match their 2009 payroll. Jones is an all-star, gold glove CF who is controlled and cheap for four seasons, seasons where the O's are going to be able to contend if they make the right moves. He's been active in the Baltimore community and is expected by the club to be their leader in the clubhouse going forward.

It is a trade that only makes sense in a video game.

Posted by: James F | November 12, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Not much Orioles news. More smoke about Chapman as the organization desperately tries to keep the fans interested.

Bedard. So many reasons not to want this guy back with the Orioles. By some miracle he gets 22 starts and becomes a type A free agent is probably the best the organization could hope for.

Austin Jackson will be a role player at the ML level. You can bank it.

Posted by: Mickey Six | November 12, 2009 at 11:11 AM

James, Well said.

Posted by: RockvsSingleParents | November 12, 2009 at 11:11 AM

I don't see the O's doing anything to block Josh Bell long-term, but I think he needs another year of seasoning and I doubt Uggla and DeRosa would be viewed as long-term solutions. Either could DH or play the outfield in 2011.

Posted by: vtadave | November 12, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Also Austin Jackson is a good prospect but far from a great one. His power numbers have gone down every year and he's never been a speed only type CF like Bourn, Gomez ect. Jackson is nice, but he's closer to Coco Crisp than Andrew McCutchen. No way the O's would trade a budding young star for Jackson and Hughes.

Posted by: Steveo26 | November 12, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Thanks pat for agreeing!! Some people don't have time all day to type I'm at work in LES at my office job.Im sorry for my poor grammar some people text message in NY we don't have time like u farmer's alright pal!!! so GO F UR SELF HICK, AND Y wouldn't i be from the city? ignorant loser!!!

Posted by: jwestford | November 12, 2009 at 11:24 AM

SPEAKING ABOUT ROCKHEAD VRS LOSER PARENTS who raised a smuck!!!!

Posted by: jwestford | November 12, 2009 at 11:27 AM

JWestford,

I'm not an Orioles fan. I'm just a baseball fan who knows that Adam Jones is going to be, for atleast the next 5-7 years, the face of the Orioles along with Nick Markakis.

Posted by: skoods | November 12, 2009 at 11:33 AM

@jwestford

As you can see, everyone else is capable of writing in full sentences. If you don't have anything valuable to add to the discussion, please leave.

In regards to the Orioles, they have plenty of money, especially what they are collecting from MASN. Now is simply not the right time to spend it. Jones not being Super 2 means they don't have to lock him up long term until next year, which is preferable as his production took a nosedive in the second half of 2009. While part of me would like to see a splashy move for a 1B via trade, the prudent move for Baltimore is to add a decent 1B bat (Delgado-esque), a couple of lower-cost pithers and see what they have in their young arms. This team is not that far off, but 2010 won't be the year.

-Written from my office, Lexington Ave.

Posted by: mcamp7 | November 12, 2009 at 11:33 AM

@jwestford.

If you have such an important, busy office job, why are you pissing all over the english language on a sports message board? I like how you can't spell, but I'm the hick... right. Well this "smuck" has work to do in his office for a professional sports team.

Posted by: RockvsSingleParents | November 12, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Bedard hated his time in Baltimore. Not sure why all these fan boys would think he'd actually come back. I'm a life long O's fan but Bedard has to want to come back to Baltimore and that's not going to happen no matter how much money McPhail throws at him. He'll go to a big market team.

Posted by: www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawk_UTEm5MfG1qo9SDdNeQ9Raqma1enluxs | November 12, 2009 at 12:08 PM

I never said I think he'd come back... I just said it'd be funny. I honestly don't want him too. I think he should go to the Twins, they have a nice little Canadian thing going on up there.

Posted by: RockvsSingleParents | November 12, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Posted by: www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawk_UTEm5MfG1qo9SDdNeQ9Raqma1enluxs | November 12, 2009 at 12:08 PM

I think a large market team is the last place you'll find Bedard. They'd run him out of town in New York or LA with the public perception he has and the way he acts towards the media.

I wouldn't mind bringing him back at all on an incentive laden deal. If I do recall, I remember seeing an article or two over the last year syaing he wouldn't rule out a return to Baltimore. I don't ever remember there being any bad blood between him and the O's other than the fact that he pissed off some of the members of the press.

Posted by: epic | November 12, 2009 at 12:22 PM

MCAMP-
What's not valuable of what i said? I've heard alot more junk before on this site, other then A.Jones being some kind of god to you people, OK him and nick are the faces of the franchise.Of course they are thats about all you have!!, not my fault the orioles can't live up to anything THEY NEED PITCHING, their hitting is getting better with a third baseman aquire move. Luke Scott to first base and the team looks ok it's a start,but Orioles need pitching here's a Roster outlook

1b-scott
2b-roberts
3b-beltre/tejada/derosa
ss-izturis( i think ?)
DH-T.wigginton
LF- reimold
CF-A.Jones(ur freakin precious)
RF-markakis

SP'S 1-j.marquis
2-j.pinerio
3-J.guthrie
4-B.myers
5-bergensen

make uehara your closer, this could be a cheap solution just for now with the starters I listed.

Posted by: jwestford | November 12, 2009 at 12:27 PM

They need pitching? They probably have the best core of young pitching prospects in the whole league. They don't need the pitching, they are waiting for their prospects to come in to their own at the major league level.

Posted by: worldchamps08 | November 12, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Yeah, I think the the solution is definitely signing three mediocre pitchers...

Posted by: RockvsSingleParents | November 12, 2009 at 12:56 PM

jwestford - you realize that you are leaving out of the Orioles rotation Chris Tillman, one of baseball's top 10 prospects last year, and Brian Matusz, the #2 pitching prospect in baseball right now behind Strasburg?

Posted by: James F | November 12, 2009 at 01:55 PM

"MCAMP-
What's not valuable of what i said?"

Posted by: jwestford

I hope u don't think E.bedard is the answer to ur prayers(like 1 million hailmary's) Giving up A.jones would b smart in the future ur not gonna b able to afford him neway Y hold on 2 him get pitchers in the mean time.AND by the way A.jackson is a 300 hitter he's like a granderson but younger with better AVG so u get THE HELL OUTTA HERE!

Posted by: jwestford

SPEAKING ABOUT ROCKHEAD VRS LOSER PARENTS who raised a smuck!!!!

Posted by: jwestford

SP'S 1-j.marquis
2-j.pinerio
3-J.guthrie
4-B.myers
5-bergensen

make uehara your closer, this could be a cheap solution just for now with the starters I listed.

Posted by: jwestford

I actually agree with Uehara to closer, but couldn't leave it out less I be charged with being unfair.

Posted by: mcamp7 | November 12, 2009 at 02:11 PM

Its gonna get real crazy when all five teams in the AL beast become competitive..

Posted by: 661dodgerblue | November 12, 2009 at 02:36 PM

1b-scott
2b-roberts
3b-beltre/tejada/derosa
ss-izturis( i think ?)
DH-T.wigginton
LF- reimold
CF-A.Jones(ur freakin precious)
RF-markakis

SP'S 1-j.marquis
2-j.pinerio
3-J.guthrie
4-B.myers
5-bergensen

make uehara your closer, this could be a cheap solution just for now with the starters I listed."

Hhahahahahaha....hahahahah.

Wait.

Hahahhahaha.

Alright I'm done, but man, this kid has no idea what he's talking about. It'd help if he had a grasp on the english language too. Guess he just has to rep for the Yanks and their awesome fan base.

Posted by: Drew | November 12, 2009 at 02:56 PM

1b-scott
2b-roberts
3b-beltre/tejada/derosa
ss-izturis( i think ?)
DH-T.wigginton
LF- reimold
CF-A.Jones(ur freakin precious)
RF-markakis

SP'S 1-j.marquis
2-j.pinerio
3-J.guthrie
4-B.myers
5-bergensen

make uehara your closer, this could be a cheap solution just for now with the starters I listed."

That's our problem. We've been playing without a catcher. Just imagine the damage we can do if we moved the backstop up a couple inches or had a franchise-changing face like in the Matt Weiters mold.

Posted by: mabexc | November 12, 2009 at 05:42 PM

Posted by: RockvsSingleParents | November 12, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Thanks Rock, really saved me some time. If being arrogant when bragging about a team that spent almost double that of ANY team is not a narcissistic complex then I should go back to grad school

Posted by: jdouble777 | November 12, 2009 at 05:45 PM

"You need pitching..."

Matusz, Tillman, Arrieta, Bergessen, Hernandez, Erbe, Patton, then add the Liz, Pauley, Andy Mitchell projects and they gave A TON of young talent that should pan out. Could certainly use a solid veteran but that can be had without giving up Jones: Lackey, Bedard, Penny, etc.

Get over it, pinstripes and Adam Jones is a fantasy, figment of your imagination, demented even. Why cant you just be happy Tex turned his back on his roots and went your way. Always more with you guys, sickening really, destroying the game as we know it.

Posted by: jdouble777 | November 12, 2009 at 05:56 PM

And FYI, those spelling errors and misplaced words in my last post were for his benefit. I figured he wouldn't understand if I didn't use terrible grammar that makes no sense.

Posted by: yoyoma | November 12, 2009 at 06:53 PM

mcamp7..
i give u props on the Billy Madison line drop..

jwestford..
yea there is no way we would ever give Adam Jones to the Yankess, ever..

Posted by: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1120410095 | November 12, 2009 at 10:17 PM

Parker,

Thanks for the support...I've found in life that some people can't let facts get in the way of The Truth. As I believe I am arguing with a 15 year old, I will now excuse myself from any discussion with jwestford. The sad part is that as a non-orioles fan even I can recognize that this is am exciting young team to be respected...if not feared. Those who consider only what they hear on ESPN sure are missing a beautiful game.

Mcamp7

Posted by: mcamp7 | November 12, 2009 at 11:03 PM

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