Odds & Ends: Street, Nelson, Prospects, Mets

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  1. icedrake523 5 years ago

    The solution to the Mets problem is simple. Fire Minaya and everyone he brought on board with him. Replace him with an intelligent GM (ie Kevin Towers) and give him free reign. I think ownership has too much of a leash on Omar and that is why he hasn’t done anything significant other than Bay. Omar still needs to go, but Jeff Wilpon has no business having any significant say in how a professional sports team is supposed to be run. I doubt he’s even fit to run a McDonalds. Fortunately for him, he’s a winner of the gene pool lottery.

    • Infield Fly 5 years ago

      To only address the GM is to only address the scab over the wound. The Mets need COMPLETE overhaul….and although it is wishful thinking, I suggest that it start with the Wilpons selling the team to someone with a lot more vision.

      • icedrake523 5 years ago

        I don’t like ownership but you can live with them if they let their GM do whatever they want. But you can’t trust someone like Minaya to run the team anymore. He and his people need to go. Bring in a new GM, let him do everything.

        I don’t think the roster needs to be blown up though. There are still enough good players for them to contend. They still need more reliable starters but it’s not worth blowing everything up over.

        • iwishihadaclue 5 years ago

          But ownership has NEVER given any GM what you’re asking for. Bring in any GM and you’ll get the same issue

        • Infield Fly 5 years ago

          Ownership sets the tone for an organization and creates the whole culture and flow. The Mets may be an obvious mess right now, but quietly they were not much better before Minaya came, nor were the results. At this point everyone pretends that Minaya’s running things when it’s really Jeff in an Omar suit. The problem is, if they do go out and get a functional GM (or more likely, go in-house) how can he be expected to function well if the entire organization’s structure is in disarray? A GM cannot change what is going on over his head.

        • Agreed. I think Met fans should lower their expectations for this year and allow time to see who regains their health, who doesn’t, and who emerges from the minor leagues over the course of the year to signify bona fide promise.I won’t ever complain about having Bay, Wright, Reyes, Francouer, Murphy and a healthy Beltran. I can live with Pagan and like his at-bats, even his outs are tough, despite his less-than-stellar baseball IQ.I don’t understand the blind loyalty to Castillo. Hudson is a much better fit in many important ways that the cost differential between cutting Castillo and signing Hudson would be insignificant when compared to the value added to the everyday roster. Assuming everyone is healthy, I would be very content with a post Allstar break line-up of:ReyesHudsonWrightBeltranBayMurphyFrancouerSantos/TholeAnd a pitching staff of:SantanaPelfreyOllieMaineNieve, Niese or FigueroaIts not a bad team. Met fans should be a little patient while the players on the Farm, such as Ike Davis, F-Mart, Chris Carter, Mejia, Kirk Niewenhuis, Brad Holt & Eric Beaulac continue to develop and improve.I’m a big Met fan, and I’m not expecting miracles this year. A healthy roster should lead to a substantial improvement over last year.

        • Agreed. I think Met fans should lower their expectations for this year and allow time to see who regains their health, who doesn’t, and who emerges from the minor leagues over the course of the year to signify bona fide promise.I won’t ever complain about having Bay, Wright, Reyes, Francouer, Murphy and a healthy Beltran. I can live with Pagan and like his at-bats, even his outs are tough, despite his less-than-stellar baseball IQ.I don’t understand the blind loyalty to Castillo. Hudson is a much better fit in many important ways that the cost differential between cutting Castillo and signing Hudson would be insignificant when compared to the value added to the everyday roster. Assuming everyone is healthy, I would be very content with a post Allstar break line-up of:ReyesHudsonWrightBeltranBayMurphyFrancouerSantos/TholeAnd a pitching staff of:SantanaPelfreyOllieMaineNieve, Niese or FigueroaIts not a bad team. Met fans should be a little patient while the players on the Farm, such as Ike Davis, F-Mart, Chris Carter, Mejia, Kirk Niewenhuis, Brad Holt & Eric Beaulac continue to develop and improve.I’m a big Met fan, and I’m not expecting miracles this year. A healthy roster should lead to a substantial improvement over last year.

    • markjsunz 5 years ago

      Since Wilpon is the owner he has every right to have the final say of how his business is run. At the end of the day it is a business , and like all businesses Wilpon wants to make a profit. It was also reported that Wilpon was swindled out of a fortune from Madoff so that might also be one of the reasons the mets are watching who they sign.

    • markjsunz 5 years ago

      Since Wilpon is the owner he has every right to have the final say of how his business is run. At the end of the day it is a business , and like all businesses Wilpon wants to make a profit. It was also reported that Wilpon was swindled out of a fortune from Madoff so that might also be one of the reasons the mets are watching who they sign.

  2. Guest 5 years ago

    The Mets need to start over their management staff. EVERYONE. You give them the Red Sox staff and they’re a WS team.

  3. chicubs25 5 years ago

    Could someone with the subscription tell me where the cubs ranked on the farm system? Thanks!

    Also, in regards to Nady, don’t forget the incentives he could get. That would put him at like 5.5 Mil

    • yanksrdashit 5 years ago

      cubs were 7

      • athensmatt 5 years ago

        how ’bout mah braves?

      • studio179 5 years ago

        Interesting. I’m a Cub fan and thought they would be somewhere around the middle of the pack to slightly better under Law’s rankings.

    • crunchy1 5 years ago

      The Cubs ranked 7th. Jumping from 27th the previous year on Law’s list. But I’m waiting for those prospects to succeed in AA and above before I get too excited.

    • crunchy1 5 years ago

      The Cubs ranked 7th. Jumping from 27th the previous year on Law’s list. But I’m waiting for those prospects to succeed in AA and above before I get too excited.

  4. disgustedcubfan 5 years ago

    Keith Law says the White Sox have the worst farm system of all out there.
    What about the huge stockpile of can’t miss prospects they were going to dangle in front of the Padres for A Gon?

  5. Hinlti 5 years ago

    I don’t understand the White Sox at 30? They have several players who should at least be regulars in Morel, Danks, Hudson, Viciedo and Mitchell.

    • lug 5 years ago

      I would imagine because we clear it out a lot for moves that help the parent club. You have a valid point but until there is more depth I can agree with #30 but really this assesment means…… diddly, although I would love some more prospects in the Sox system

    • roguesaw 5 years ago

      30. Chicago White Sox
      They don’t spend money in the draft, they don’t spend much in Latin America except for Cuban free agents who might be closer to the big leagues, they’ve been quick to trade prospects for major league value when they were contending, and their first overall pick from 2008, future star Gordon Beckham, is already ineligible for this list (one of only two first-rounders from 2008 to do so).

      They did take on a little more risk than usual with their first draft pick in 2009, outfielder Jared Mitchell, a high-ceiling, two-sport college player, who is probably their best shot at getting an impact player from anyone in their system right now.

  6. $1574266 5 years ago

    Can someone tell me where the pirates rank on this list?

    • BLZR 5 years ago

      18

    • Suzysman 5 years ago

      I refuse to pay ESPN money, but will keep track of the list for everyone1 – Rangers2 – Red Sox3 – Rays4 – Indians5 – Braves6 – Orioles7 – Cubs8 – Rockies9 – Royals10 – Reds11 – Padres12 – Marlins13 – Twins14 – A’s15 – Mets16 – Blue Jays17 – Tigers18 – Pirates19 – Dodgers20 – Giants21 – Mariners22 – Angels23 – Nationals24 – Phillies25 – Yankees26 – Brewers27 – Diamondbacks28 – Astros29 – Cards30 – White Sox

      • roguesaw 5 years ago

        the orioles were 6th on law’s list

      • BentoBox 5 years ago

        The Red Sox above the Rays ?

        • Suzysman 5 years ago

          Hey, dont shoot the messenger :)

          Anyway, here are Law’s statements on those two clubs:

          2. Boston Red Sox
          The Red Sox have more players in the top 100 than the Rangers and have almost comparable depth, but they don’t have the high-end prospects to match a Smoak, a Feliz, or a Martin Perez, all of whom are high-ceiling and nearly major league-ready. Boston has stuffed its lower levels with gambles on over-slot high school kids after the first two rounds, giving the Red Sox a chance to add those high-ceiling kids even though they don’t typically have a pick among the first 20 overall.

          3. Tampa Bay Rays
          The Rays have graduated a fair amount of talent in recent years but continue to come up with arms, while using their stumble last year to flip Scott Kazmir and add three solid prospects to their system. They could easily graduate three more above-average or better prospects this year if openings arise at the big league level.

  7. tmengd 5 years ago

    where were the Astros Ranked please? I am surprised they weren’t last. Maybe they are actually improving. Maybe someone should just post the list of worst to best.

    • Astros were 28th, right in front of the Cardinals and White Sox. It’s nice to know my three least favorite teams all rank at the bottom!

    • BLZR 5 years ago

      28. They were only second worst in the NL Central (Cardinals), and weren’t far behind Milwaukee either.

  8. yanksrdashit 5 years ago

    I would think the bluejays would be higher up on the list after the halladay trade. I would also put the yankees above the giants, Law said, that prospects of the giants had disappointing seasons. Even though the yankees traded away talent, i still think they have a system with some high potential players.

  9. crunchy1 5 years ago

    Cubs #7…that is really encouraging. They’ve really turned that farm system around. Law credits Tim Wilken for the improvement. But…I’ll reserve judgement until those prospects actually materialize and make an impact with the Cubs. The last bunch all seemed to end up in Baltimore.

    • Queef Law 5 years ago

      I wouldn’t put too much into that.. Coming from a guy who failed to vote for Chris Carpenter in the Cy Young voting how credible can he really be?

      • So if Law had voted for Carpenter you’d accept his organizational rankings? How bizarre. I guess the lesson is that if you don’t agree with someone who knows more than you then just start calling them names.

        • Queef Law 5 years ago

          no no no.. you see.. I know he’s way too opinionated to give honest perspectives. Not voting for Carp proved that. Silly cub fan, I know it’s tough for you to understand sometimes.

          • yougotrondod 5 years ago

            Actually he makes a great point…Carpenter and Vasquez both had great years, and it could be argued who was more deserving. The fact that you think a guy isn’t credible because he didn’t vote for your binky makes you look foolish. My favorite sentence is “he’s way too opinionated to give honest perspectives”…uhhh honest perspectives = opinions….

          • Queef Law 5 years ago

            if carp and vasquez were so close together then how come vasquez was only in the top 3 of ONE voter? He can’t honestly have believed that vasquez had a better year and everyone knows it. There’s just no way. And I would like to remind you he put vasquez at number TWO.. ahead of WAINWRIGHT.. No one else even put him in the top 3 and he puts him at number 2? If you don’t see how ignorant his voting was then you are just as ignorant.

          • crunchy1 5 years ago

            Your opinion is that Law is too opinionated “to give honest persectives”… and that is “proven” by Law’s Cy Young ballot. Yeah, that’s real complex. Give me a break.

          • Queef Law 5 years ago

            Being allowed to vote for the Cy Young is an extreme honor.. And what he did this year showed that he has no respect for that honor. To me I’ll never be able to read something based on his opinions and take him seriously because of it. And you can’t tell me that he doesn’t favor teams and dislikes certain teams (the cardinals). It’s fine to like and dislike certain teams, but when it shows up in your work it looks unprofessional. When it shows up in a well respected Major League Baseball award it moves from unprofessional to completely ridiculous.

          • R_y_a_n 5 years ago

            Law uses stats that other, inept sport writers refuse to use even though they have really been shown to be the best method for judging pitchers. Other writers still think wins mean something. Law is one of the better writers on ESPN – may not mean much, but it does mean SOMETHING.

          • Queef Law 5 years ago

            ok.. show me the stats where vasquez is better than carpenter and wainwright.

          • Guest 5 years ago

            Vazquez was better than Wainwright in CG, AVG against, Strike outs, walks allowed, WHIP, FIP, and not blaming Dodger Fans and their towels for suspect outfield defense.

          • Suzysman 5 years ago

            Uhm, you serious?

            FIP
            .277 – Vasquez
            .278 – Carpenter
            .311 – Wainwright

            xFIP
            2.82 – Vasquez
            3.36 – Carpenter
            3.38 – Wainwright

            WAR
            6.6 – Vasquez
            5.7 – Wainwright
            5.6 – Carpenter

          • Guest 5 years ago

            Or that.

          • Suzysman 5 years ago

            Well that with proper spelling of Vazquez’s name and the periods in the right place, but people should get the idea, lol.

          • Queef Law 5 years ago

            the braves sucked.. how much pressure could there possibly be pitching in atlanta? What stat do you have to prove that wrong? and what do the ERAs look like? isn’t the point of pitching to not allow runs? And another thing.. you play to WIN the game.. I know for a fact that Waino pitched differently depending on the game situation. If our offense wasn’t scoring he was allowing less runs. If we had a big lead he’d pitch less conservatively and would allow more runs. So no one will ever convince me that wins count for nothing.. All of you stat geeks forget the importance of the human element.. the element you can’t put a statistic on no matter how much you try.

          • Suzysman 5 years ago

            So your entire argument boils down to the fact you dont understand advanced stats and go into the “stat geeks” rants in the face of anyone who uses them? Well thats a reason to take you seriously!

          • R_y_a_n 5 years ago

            Suzysman’s post = win. “Stat geeks” is just an attempt at an insult when you don’t choose to take a little bit of time to understand the more advanced, accurate stats. “I know for a fact…” Well, know you don’t, because you have zero evidence. Vazquez being better than Carpenter is a statement that has merit.

          • Queef Law 5 years ago

            the braves sucked.. how much pressure could there possibly be pitching in atlanta? What stat do you have to prove that wrong? and what do the ERAs look like? isn’t the point of pitching to not allow runs? And another thing.. you play to WIN the game.. I know for a fact that Waino pitched differently depending on the game situation. If our offense wasn’t scoring he was allowing less runs. If we had a big lead he’d pitch less conservatively and would allow more runs. So no one will ever convince me that wins count for nothing.. All of you stat geeks forget the importance of the human element.. the element you can’t put a statistic on no matter how much you try.

    • Suzysman 5 years ago

      yeah, I kind of take it with a grain of salt. Law kind of comes off as a Cubs-homer sometimes, and his mancrush on Castro is creepy, lol. Our system did get better, but 7 seems out of whack to begin with and rankings have never been our problem anyway – its development we always fall way short of.

      Making it worse, that issue seems to be showing itself so far with the first two years of Wilken picks. Sure some of the guys were initially ranked high, but they have done almost nothing since the “potential” lead to the high marks.

      • crunchy1 5 years ago

        He likes Vitters more than most too. It’s a little higher than I expected (I thought middle of the pack somewhere) but it’s still good to get some recognition. If it’s good national publicity for our farm, hey, I’ll take it…it can’t hurt.

      • crunchy1 5 years ago

        On the other hand…Law did rank the Cubs 27th last year.

        But I remember the days of Bobbie Brownlie, Luke Hagerty, Billy Petrick Chad Blasko, Andy Sisco, Ben Christensen..geez, I can go on and on…All were drafted during the McPhail influenced power arm era. I believe Baseball America had the Cubs at #1 one year and #2 another. And we all know that didn’t work out so well.

        • Suzysman 5 years ago

          That is true.I just think we got this nod because of four things: 1) Castro, 2) Vitters 3) Massive amount of middle infield prospects recently drafted (Law loves him some middle infielders – almost as much as Hendry, lol) 4) Wilken (they are supposedly friends)And yes, the Cubs were number 1 the year Hendry took over. But it actually did work out well, it was instrumental in the team competed from 2004 till now. Prior, Zambrano, Hill, Marmol, Guzman, Wells, Wuertz (excreta) as well as traded pitchers like Nolasco, Garland, Willis, Wellemeyer, Mirte, Cruz (excreta). Plus the young bats like Soto and Theriot who have become fixtures on our club with a couple more scattered around the league.

          Well, of course not all pitchers/players will pan out, but the system at that time produced a huge amount of ML worthy pitchers and a couple ML positional starters/useful parts. It gets heaped on for the failures, but people seem to ignore the long line of success stories just the same. Most teams cant run off a list of so many worthwhile ML players playing in their minors at the same time.

          • crunchy1 5 years ago

            That makes sense. Wilkins and Law must have been together with the Jays at some point.

            I suppose the Cubs do have their share of successes, but it’s those high draft picks, high publicity, high ceiling guys that always seemed to crash before reaching AA. Of those guys you mention, only Prior and Garland were better than 4th round picks. Of course it’s heard to say where Zambrano, Guzman, and Cruz would have been drafted but of the 3, Guzman drew the most buzz as an amateur.

            This time around the Cub prospect crop includes guys that were either first rounders (Cashner, Jackson, Vitters, Flaherty,Burke) or should have been were it not for injury concerns (Carpenter). Also Hak Ju Lee and Dae Un Rhee were highly sought after international free agents. Another thing for me is that some have reached AA while still relatively young: Cashner, Jay Jackson, Castro, Carpenter…granted it is a small sample size of ABs/inninings, but they got there quick and didn’t burn out in low A ball like the last group of hyped guys.

            Unlike in years past, many of the guys getting noticed right now are the high ceiling guys who have had some production to match their potential. Yet they’re still good at finding the Theriot/Dontrelle Willis type sleepers later in the draft like Logan Watkins and Jay Jackson.

            Still, I’m going to keep any excitement tempered until they succeed in AA over a sustained period of time. That’s typically the level that separates the men from the boys.

          • Suzysman 5 years ago

            Yeah, they were together in Toronto. And last year is the first time any Wilken picks actually did anything for the Cubs, so Law couldnt really give us a high mark for 2008 when no one had done anything, lol.As far as guy Wilkens has drafted so far, and what they have done – well, the last two seasons have looked better, but I am still not expecting these guys to turn out as well as they are hyped. Reason being the first two years guys havent produced on their “tools” at all.And yes, that include Vitters who has a pitiful career .286/.319/.448 line pre-AA. Josh is still young, but provided us one of the most pitiful stat lines I have seen last season – a 2.47 BB% over nearly 500 PA. That’s lower then Bengie Molina bad and came at a level where pitchers have next to no control! Right now, Vitters is on a path to be a Jeff Francoeur type, just likely a bit worse. (where remember, Jeff is replacement level or below himself)

          • crunchy1 5 years ago

            That makes sense. Wilkins and Law must have been together with the Jays at some point.

            I suppose the Cubs do have their share of successes, but it’s those high draft picks, high publicity, high ceiling guys that always seemed to crash before reaching AA. Of those guys you mention, only Prior and Garland were better than 4th round picks. Of course it’s heard to say where Zambrano, Guzman, and Cruz would have been drafted but of the 3, Guzman drew the most buzz as an amateur.

            This time around the Cub prospect crop includes guys that were either first rounders (Cashner, Jackson, Vitters, Flaherty,Burke) or should have been were it not for injury concerns (Carpenter). Also Hak Ju Lee and Dae Un Rhee were highly sought after international free agents. Another thing for me is that some have reached AA while still relatively young: Cashner, Jay Jackson, Castro, Carpenter…granted it is a small sample size of ABs/inninings, but they got there quick and didn’t burn out in low A ball like the last group of hyped guys.

            Unlike in years past, many of the guys getting noticed right now are the high ceiling guys who have had some production to match their potential. Yet they’re still good at finding the Theriot/Dontrelle Willis type sleepers later in the draft like Logan Watkins and Jay Jackson.

            Still, I’m going to keep any excitement tempered until they succeed in AA over a sustained period of time. That’s typically the level that separates the men from the boys.

        • markjsunz 5 years ago

          These rankings should be taken with a grain of salt. You have no idea of who will be able to make it in the big leagues. Flashy minor leaguers turn out to be busts all the time. And guys the scouts never like turn out to have good Big League careers.

          • crunchy1 5 years ago

            “But…I’ll reserve judgement until those prospects actually materialize and make an impact with the Cubs.”

            That’s me quoting myself on this thread…. I don’t think you read my entire comment. The rankings are nice but it doesn’t mean a whole lot until these guys start producing in the big leagues. The Cubs have had a shaky record of development the past two decades. There’s still a long way to go from prospect to impact player.

          • crunchy1 5 years ago

            “But…I’ll reserve judgement until those prospects actually materialize and make an impact with the Cubs.”

            That’s me quoting myself on this thread…. I don’t think you read my entire comment. The rankings are nice but it doesn’t mean a whole lot until these guys start producing in the big leagues. The Cubs have had a shaky record of development the past two decades. There’s still a long way to go from prospect to impact player.

        • markjsunz 5 years ago

          These rankings should be taken with a grain of salt. You have no idea of who will be able to make it in the big leagues. Flashy minor leaguers turn out to be busts all the time. And guys the scouts never like turn out to have good Big League careers.

  10. Eric 5 years ago

    I think Damon could very possibly end up in Seattle. LF/DH would alternate between Damon and Bradley. A top 4 line-up of Ichiro, Figgins, Damon and Bradley is intriguing to say the least.

  11. slr5607 5 years ago

    So if the Mets should start over, how much do you think they could get for the pieces that they currently have? Lets face it, they are stuck with Jason Bay. They have players they could make available. David Wright (3yrs/39mm), Carlos Beltran (2yrs/37mm), Jose Reyes (2yrs/20mm)…These guys alone could add 6-8 top quality prospects through trade. They still have Johan Santana, K-Rod, Jason Bay, Fernando Martinez, Angel Pagan, David Murphy, Wilmer Flores (in the minors)…If you added 2 top SP prospects along with 3-4 high offensive prospects, this team would be turned around pretty quick. I think they could find trade partners all of the league for guys like these.

    • coltholt 5 years ago

      Wright could definitely bring back two major league ready prospects. Beltran could only bring in anything if the Mets ate serious money. I would guess that they would have to eat between 12 and 17 million over the two years to get a decent prospect back and Reyes probably has zero trade value right now, so it would really be a poor decision to trade him now. Reyes’ game depends solely on his speed and has lost significant time to leg related injuries. Until he proves that he can stay healthy, nobody will take on 10 mil/year on him.

    • slr5607 5 years ago

      lol…David Murphy…guess i was thinking of David Wright. Daniel, of course. I think that Reyes would get a lot back in a trade. I also think that Beltran could get more than what people would expect.

      The way I would get top SP Prospects is by trading these guys. I was not saying that I would magically pull the mout of the air. I bet that if David Wright was traded, the Mets could get a top SP prospect and a few quality position prospects. Example, if the Mets got the Giants interested, I bet they could get Madison Bumgarner and more in return. If Reyes was on the market, don’t you think that his is an upgrade to almost every team in baseball? Maybe he has had some dings here and there, but the guy has better upside and ability on the offensive side than a lot of SS out there. I would think Beltran would get you a good SP prospect as well, especially if they threw in some money.

      My outlook is that they need to start somewhere. They could make a move here and there and try to start over. It would be a 2-3 year process, but it would benefit them in the long run.

    • slr5607 5 years ago

      lol…David Murphy…guess i was thinking of David Wright. Daniel, of course. I think that Reyes would get a lot back in a trade. I also think that Beltran could get more than what people would expect.

      The way I would get top SP Prospects is by trading these guys. I was not saying that I would magically pull the mout of the air. I bet that if David Wright was traded, the Mets could get a top SP prospect and a few quality position prospects. Example, if the Mets got the Giants interested, I bet they could get Madison Bumgarner and more in return. If Reyes was on the market, don’t you think that his is an upgrade to almost every team in baseball? Maybe he has had some dings here and there, but the guy has better upside and ability on the offensive side than a lot of SS out there. I would think Beltran would get you a good SP prospect as well, especially if they threw in some money.

      My outlook is that they need to start somewhere. They could make a move here and there and try to start over. It would be a 2-3 year process, but it would benefit them in the long run.

  12. kahnives 5 years ago

    the White Sox are 30th? How is that possible?

    • According to Law it’s because they were willing to deal prospects for major league talent and because some (Beckham) graduated to the majors.

  13. whitesoxfan424 5 years ago

    I will admit that I am a little bitter that Law ranked the white sox last. But ranking farm systems is pointless, unless you’re ranking past farm systems. 98% of these “amazing” “high-ceiling” prospects fail to make any impact on the major leagues. The guys who are going to make it are either the ridiculously talented guys who know nothing about anything but success (ie. the miguel cabrera’s) or the guys who have a great head on their shoulders and the drive to prove everyone wrong (ie. Nolan ryan’s / drafted 12th round).

  14. raullll 5 years ago

    what are the yankees rankings if u dont mind me aksing?

    • CosaOne 5 years ago

      The Yankees were ranked 25th, his reasoning was the recent moves that saw them parting with two top 100 prospects this offseason and failing to sign guys like Gerrit Cole and Scott Bittle(their 1st/2nd picks in 08). Hard to argue with his logic.

      • BaseballFan0707 5 years ago

        Yeah, I do agree, since, as of right now, the Yanks have only one elite prospect (Montero), and about 3 other guys that are on the bubble right now (McAllister, Betances, Romine). Other than them, the Yanks have nothing to speak of.

        • CosaOne 5 years ago

          I dunno they have other guys that I like also but they are really young like Manny Banuelos, Slade Heathcott, Kevin Deleon, Jose Ramirez, JR Murphy, and Jairo Heredia plus guys like Melancon and Nova who I think will help this season

        • R_y_a_n 5 years ago

          Banuelos seems to be gaining respect as well, but I agree, 25th doesn’t seem like a terrible ranking for them.

  15. raullll 5 years ago

    why would i want to do that?

  16. raullll 5 years ago

    i spend almost 10 bucks a day on lunch but i’d never pay 3-4 $ a month for insider, i know im weird

    • No, you have good reasons. ESPN the magazine is like staring at a 3 year old Picasso impersonator where you have to rotate the thing 180 degrees over and over just to read the text. And inside doesn’t really have anything that you can’t find on the interwebs.

  17. royalman23 5 years ago

    Does anyone know where the Royals rank?

    • jwkc 5 years ago

      I would also like to know where the Royals rank, and what he had to say about them. Would someone please let us know?

  18. callow 5 years ago

    what were the phillies

  19. lucasgonz 5 years ago

    where are the braves ranked?

  20. Queef Law 5 years ago

    I think this is a much more accurate assessment. link to mlb.fanhouse.com

    • baseball52 5 years ago

      Anyone who doesn’t have Texas at #1 has already lost all credibility.

      • JasonHeywardIsGod 5 years ago

        rays farm system is better, plain and simple

        • baseball52 5 years ago

          How? You have 3 possible top 10 prospects in Feliz, Smoak, and Perez along with guys like Kiker, Scheppers, Font, and Moreland along with others.

          Yes, Tampa has three high profile prospects in Davis, Beckham, and Jennings, but there’s not as much depth in their system.

        • I don’t think its that clear between these two like you make it seme

  21. TheBunk 5 years ago

    Can’t figure out for the life of me how the cardinals have a better ranked system than the white sox, I see about 4 impact level prospects on the white sox and exactly one on the cardinals. I don’t care if the cardinals have marginally better depth, the difference between 4 impact level prospects and 1 is huge.

  22. alleykat23 5 years ago

    Where are the Giants ranked?

  23. Thurman8er 5 years ago

    I hate it when the links I want to read are Insiders. Can someone tell me where the Angels ranked?

  24. Dylan 5 years ago

    Giants – 20th, Angels – 22nd, Phillies – 24th, Braves – 5th, Pirates – 18th, Royals – 9th

  25. and my padres? please, anyone?

  26. Guest 5 years ago

    Stupid McCourt.. If the team had money we would of had Kyle Blair and Alex White and we would of kept Carlos Santana and Josh Bell.

    Making the farm system top 5 without a doubt.

  27. lefty177 5 years ago

    anybody that has Insider, can you tell me what ranking they put the Red Sox farm system?

  28. ChiSoxDoWork 5 years ago

    I know i am a white sox fan, but i dont see how anyone can justify putting the white sox 30th. I bet keith law is the only idiot that has them in the bottom five. They are a middle of the road to low 20’s system with beckham graduating. But to say mitchell, flowers, hudson, morel, danks and viciedo is the 30th best is flatout ridiculous. And come on, Cubs at 7??? Thats ridiculous too, they should be pretty close to where the sox are. Once again, thats probably the case on any list but this idiots’.

    • TheBunk 5 years ago

      I’m not sure i would put the white sox as middle of the road but there is no way they have the worst farm system in the majors. Tyler Flowers, Jared Mitchell and Dan Hudson is enough not to be in the basement.

  29. jpkinney7 5 years ago

    Losing Anderson, Cahill, and Mazzaro (and Desme) hurts the A’s…

    Where does Law have the A’s?

  30. Where are the Reds at on this list?

  31. windycitywarrior 5 years ago

    The White Sox are definitely higher up. I think that Mitchell kid is going to be a special player if he hones his baseball skills. Tyler Flowers is someone most teams would love to have— power hitting catcher. Daniel Hudson is a solid #3 and probably can end up being a #2 with work. Jordan Danks is as talented as any outfielder that Boston has. I think John Shelby is a pretty good prospect too. Dayan Viciedo if he turns out will be a gamechanger of the highest degree. Power hitting youngin that can already hit a curve ball. No way are they that low. I will accept middle of the pack. And FYI when you suck for as many years as the Rays did, then you damn well better parlay those high draft picks into real talent. Thats the name of the game.

  32. YanksFanSince78 5 years ago

    I think the rankings are sort of subjective. How many teams really have more than 1 top 50 prospect? Not many. Of late the Yanks have traded away two top prospects in Austin Jackson and Arodys Viacaino and many have gradutated to the big team as Brett Gardner, David Robertson, Alfredo Aceves and Phil Coke were all technically rookies last year. Interestingly, AOL Fan House (for what their opinion is worth) had the Yanks ranked #15 with 4 players (Montero @ #5, Banuelos @ #41, Romine @ #45 and McAllister @ #76) in the top 100.

    • Suzysman 5 years ago

      “How many teams really have more than 1 top 50 prospect?”

      Somewhere around 20? There are only 30 teams, so…

  33. marlins 5 years ago

    the marlins are doing pretty good, and with the prospect that they have now we will see them winning a WS

  34. marlins 5 years ago

    the marlins are doing pretty good and with the prospect that are coming up,we will see them winning a WS soon

    logan morrison
    cameron maybin

  35. Supermet 5 years ago

    C’mon the Mets don’t need to rebuild, they need to get better players through the draft and free agency.

  36. Supermet 5 years ago

    C’mon the Mets need not rebuild, just to sign better players, via draft and free agency.

  37. Supermet 5 years ago

    Reyes and Wright, and Santana have been All-Stars and are still relatively young, so
    they’ll bounce back. How can you trade talent like that. The biggest problem the Mets have had for 3 straight years is pitching, signing old broken down veteran, El Duque, Glavine, Redding, and sorry relief corps, plus, old veterans who broke down…

  38. Close, 29th. They would have been last of course except there’s an even more inept farm system out there…. 😉

  39. BLZR 5 years ago

    29 is higher than a lot of people would rank them. I’m surprised he put the White Sox below them, but I guess the bottom 5 are pretty close together.

  40. crunchy1 5 years ago

    A change in ownership can make a huge difference. In Chicago, both the Cubs and Blackhawks have had horrendous ownership. The Blackhawks owner died 3 years ago and the Hawks have completely transformed, producing great young players, going after great players in free agency, televising games and bringin the fans. The commenter who said, “Ownership sets the tone for an organization and creates the whole culture and flow” was dead on. And to provide you with some encouragement it was the owner’s son who changed the culture. Now they’re one of the best teams in the sport from top to bottom. Cubs ownership also just changed and they already appear to be changing the culture…we can only hope it has the same kind of impact as it has with the Hawks.

  41. crunchy1 5 years ago

    A change in ownership can make a huge difference. In Chicago, both the Cubs and Blackhawks have had horrendous ownership. The Blackhawks owner died 3 years ago and the Hawks have completely transformed, producing great young players, going after great players in free agency, televising games and bringin the fans. The commenter who said, “Ownership sets the tone for an organization and creates the whole culture and flow” was dead on. And to provide you with some encouragement it was the owner’s son who changed the culture. Now they’re one of the best teams in the sport from top to bottom. Cubs ownership also just changed and they already appear to be changing the culture…we can only hope it has the same kind of impact as it has with the Hawks.

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