Odds & Ends: Giants, Yost, Red Sox, Blue Jays

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  1. S8P7W 6 years ago

    “Brett Myers intends to ‘stick it’ to the Phillies, according to the AP. How dare they pay him over $30MM and stick by him through domestic abuse charges.”

    Classy fella, this Brett Myers.

    • Rootdown 6 years ago

      I’m pretty sure he never actually had charges brought against him.

      The only “charges” he ever had brought against him were some d-bag Red Sox fans in Boston said they saw him from accross the street.

      • Rootdown 6 years ago

        I was wrong. This is from Wiki…

        “On June 23, 2006, Myers was arrested and charged with assault after witnesses saw him punching his wife, Kim Myers, on a downtown Boston street, after an argument.[23] The Phillies received criticism from some media members and women’s organizations for not benching Myers.[24] Myers took a short leave of absence from the team.[7] During a pre-trial hearing on October 5, 2006, Kim Myers indicated that she did not want her husband prosecuted, and despite the prosecutor’s insistence of filing charges, the case was dismissed. The couple has been in marriage counseling since the arrest.[25]”

        • S8P7W 6 years ago

          I was more referring to him wanting to ‘stick it’ to the team that helped him through his toughest times.

          It seems he has some problems up in the ol’ noodle.

          • Rootdown 6 years ago

            I’m a Mets fan living in Philadelphia so i’ve been at ground zero for Myers’ entire career. The guy really just wants to win.

            The feeling of wanting to stick it to them is because he wanted to stay and they didn’t want him back. Perhaps it’s a little much but when asked what he would do to his former team do you expect him to say that he would take it easy on them?

            Myers put up with a lot of stuff without creating any trouble that a whole bunch of players would have done a huge amount of crying about. (Being sent down to the minors during a small slump where the team gave him zero run support, moving from the rotation to closer mid-season to help out the team, etc.) If anything I would consider Brett a team player.

          • S8P7W 6 years ago

            Ok, so maybe only some of the ‘bad rap’ he gets is deserved. But he still is not in my good books, however meaningless my opinion is… 😛

          • your a d-bag mets fans

          • Rootdown 6 years ago

            Wait, how many mets fans am I?

          • bostonisbest 6 years ago

            do you count as 3?

          • Rootdown 6 years ago

            I’m a Mets fan living in Philadelphia so i’ve been at ground zero for Myers’ entire career. The guy really just wants to win.

            The feeling of wanting to stick it to them is because he wanted to stay and they didn’t want him back. Perhaps it’s a little much but when asked what he would do to his former team do you expect him to say that he would take it easy on them?

            Myers put up with a lot of stuff without creating any trouble that a whole bunch of players would have done a huge amount of crying about. (Being sent down to the minors during a small slump where the team gave him zero run support, moving from the rotation to closer mid-season to help out the team, etc.) If anything I would consider Brett a team player.

        • S8P7W 6 years ago

          I was more referring to him wanting to ‘stick it’ to the team that helped him through his toughest times.

          It seems he has some problems up in the ol’ noodle.

      • Rootdown 6 years ago

        I was wrong. This is from Wiki…

        “On June 23, 2006, Myers was arrested and charged with assault after witnesses saw him punching his wife, Kim Myers, on a downtown Boston street, after an argument.[23] The Phillies received criticism from some media members and women’s organizations for not benching Myers.[24] Myers took a short leave of absence from the team.[7] During a pre-trial hearing on October 5, 2006, Kim Myers indicated that she did not want her husband prosecuted, and despite the prosecutor’s insistence of filing charges, the case was dismissed. The couple has been in marriage counseling since the arrest.[25]”

      • 0bsessions 6 years ago

        Did you seriously just spend three posts defending a guy who punched his wife in the face in the middle of a crowded street and then try to make the people who had the good sense to report it to be the bad guys?

        I’m sorry, but regardless of any team allegiance (And just because someone’s in Boston doesn’t make them a Sox fan, much less a baseball fan at all), that’s just absolutely despicable. I mean, hell, do you seriously even think that most Sox fans would just outright recognize him as “Brett Myers, Phillies pitcher” (Since, really, he looks like any other redneck dolt who’d beat his wife) as opposed to “some guy punching a woman in the face in the middle of a crowded area outside of a bar?”

        Really, this is just overall one of the single most disgusting things I have EVER read on this site. This isn’t as a baseball fan or even a Sox fan, this is something I say simply as a human being with at least some level of decency. If I were the Phillies, I’d want to distance myself from the guy too.

    • Rootdown 6 years ago

      I’m pretty sure he never actually had charges brought against him.

      The only “charges” he ever had brought against him were some d-bag Red Sox fans in Boston said they saw him from accross the street.

  2. Abraham Zapruder 6 years ago

    Brett Myers should concentrate on getting his fastball back before shooting his mouth off. He’s lucky that he found the only GM in baseball that would give him $5million.

  3. Abraham Zapruder 6 years ago

    Brett Myers should concentrate on getting his fastball back before shooting his mouth off. He’s lucky that he found the only GM in baseball that would give him $5million.

  4. Fangaffes 6 years ago

    “Dave Cameron says the Red Sox “have traded on-base percentage for ultimate zone ratings.”

    Sorry Dave, if it was as simple as that, Alex Gonzalez would still be at short.

    • yougotrondod 6 years ago

      So I guess you are still under the impression Alex Gonzalez is an elite defender, which he clearly is not. He is still a good defender, but Marco Scutaro pre-injury outperformed him defensively. When considering the offensive upgrade Scutaro is over Gonzalez, it is a no brainer. I think people are really underestimating Scutaro defensively, he is very good. Gonzalez has definetly fallen off from his 2006 form, it was clear in his time with the Red Sox he wasn’t the same guy (even if he was better than Nick Green/Lugo).

      • coachofall 6 years ago

        i think you are overestimating how good Scutaro is offensively…parlaying a career year into a nice contract in your mid 30’s doesn’t usually pan out…because this signing was made by Theo it has to right?

      • coachofall 6 years ago

        i think you are overestimating how good Scutaro is offensively…parlaying a career year into a nice contract in your mid 30’s doesn’t usually pan out…because this signing was made by Theo it has to right?

      • Macfan1 6 years ago

        So why in the past three years does fangraphs have Alex Gonzalez UZR at 11.8, 3.7, 6.7Meanwhile Scutaro had a 0.9 UZRAs the other poster mentioned Scutaro had career years in all of his offensive categories at the age of 34, his regession to his mean will be severe next season. His numbers were way, way above normal for his career. He hit .282 with 12 HR and 60 RBI in 574 AB, with a line of .282 AVG, .379 OBP, .409 SLG, .789 OPS his career is .265 AVG, .337 OBP, .384 SLG, .721 OPSLook at those splits from his career and you see a guy that cashed in on a career year at 34 years of age. Next season all those numbers will come way back down to his career norms, he wasn’t just above his career numbers, he was way above them. You don’t all of a sudden figure out how to hit 17 pts above your average, 22 pts above your on base percentage, 25 pts above your slugging and 68 pts above your OPS at 34. You are what you are for the majority of your career, its not coincidence up to this point of his career.

        • yougotrondod 6 years ago

          So even at this regression will Scutaro be a superior player to Gonzalez? Yes. I also find it funny that you think he’s automatically going to fall off offensively. Maybe his offensive outbreak could’ve happened because he finally got to play everyday. The guy has spent his career hitting in Oakland and Toronto, you don’t think hitting at Fenway would go a long way in helping his numbers? Look, at worst Scutaro is better than Alex Gonzalez, Julio Lugo, and Nick Green. He will be the Red Sox #9 hitter…that’s a pretty good #9 guy.

          • Macfan1 6 years ago

            “So even at this regression will Scutaro be a superior player to Gonzalez?”Who wouldn’t be, comparing someone with Alex Gonzalez offensively is not exactly a noteworthy thing. And Scutaro’s performance last season had little to do with more at bats, as opposed to him having a career season. After all he had 455 at bats way back to 2004 (137 Games), he had 517 at bats (145 Games) in 2008, he was a part time player because that’s how he performed, if teams saw him as a full time player in between 2004-2008 he would have been a starter all that time as well. No one is saying he is not a better alternative to Alex Gonzalez, Julio Lugo and Nick Green but what is being stated is that his AVG, OBP, SLG, OPS, were all significantly above his career numbers. It wasn’t just slightly better but way, way better and for that you can expect regression, you don’t just get better at 34 onwards for every season to follow. By that age of one’s career they are pretty established as to what kind of player they are.As you said he is a #9 hitter and it will likely not matter one bit what he does at the plate, at least the Red Sox better hope so.

          • yougotrondod 6 years ago

            My entire point is that Marco Scutaro was the best available option for the Red Sox, was signed for cheap, and is a better option than Gonzalez. You agree with that. I really don’t see the point in arguing in further. The only thing you arguing is that Scutaro won’t be as good as he was last year, which I agree with. But to act like he was some type of scrub before this when he posted a 2.8 WAR in 2008 is a joke. In two opportunties as a starter, the guy has posted a 2.8 and 4.5 WAR (and again, he is the #9 hitter). I expect Scutaro to hit in between his 2008 and 2009 numbers. He didn’t cost much and doesn’t block Jose Iglesias long term. Scutaro might not be Jose Reyes, but he will be a dependable everyday option for the Red Sox, which is all they need with their recent troubles at the position.

          • yougotrondod 6 years ago

            My entire point is that Marco Scutaro was the best available option for the Red Sox, was signed for cheap, and is a better option than Gonzalez. You agree with that. I really don’t see the point in arguing in further. The only thing you arguing is that Scutaro won’t be as good as he was last year, which I agree with. But to act like he was some type of scrub before this when he posted a 2.8 WAR in 2008 is a joke. In two opportunties as a starter, the guy has posted a 2.8 and 4.5 WAR (and again, he is the #9 hitter). I expect Scutaro to hit in between his 2008 and 2009 numbers. He didn’t cost much and doesn’t block Jose Iglesias long term. Scutaro might not be Jose Reyes, but he will be a dependable everyday option for the Red Sox, which is all they need with their recent troubles at the position.

          • Macfan1 6 years ago

            “So even at this regression will Scutaro be a superior player to Gonzalez?”Who wouldn’t be, comparing someone with Alex Gonzalez offensively is not exactly a noteworthy thing. And Scutaro’s performance last season had little to do with more at bats, as opposed to him having a career season. After all he had 455 at bats way back to 2004 (137 Games), he had 517 at bats (145 Games) in 2008, he was a part time player because that’s how he performed, if teams saw him as a full time player in between 2004-2008 he would have been a starter all that time as well. No one is saying he is not a better alternative to Alex Gonzalez, Julio Lugo and Nick Green but what is being stated is that his AVG, OBP, SLG, OPS, were all significantly above his career numbers. It wasn’t just slightly better but way, way better and for that you can expect regression, you don’t just get better at 34 onwards for every season to follow. By that age of one’s career they are pretty established as to what kind of player they are.As you said he is a #9 hitter and it will likely not matter one bit what he does at the plate, at least the Red Sox better hope so.

        • yougotrondod 6 years ago

          So even at this regression will Scutaro be a superior player to Gonzalez? Yes. I also find it funny that you think he’s automatically going to fall off offensively. Maybe his offensive outbreak could’ve happened because he finally got to play everyday. The guy has spent his career hitting in Oakland and Toronto, you don’t think hitting at Fenway would go a long way in helping his numbers? Look, at worst Scutaro is better than Alex Gonzalez, Julio Lugo, and Nick Green. He will be the Red Sox #9 hitter…that’s a pretty good #9 guy.

      • Macfan1 6 years ago

        So why in the past three years does fangraphs have Alex Gonzalez UZR at 11.8, 3.7, 6.7Meanwhile Scutaro had a 0.9 UZRAs the other poster mentioned Scutaro had career years in all of his offensive categories at the age of 34, his regession to his mean will be severe next season. His numbers were way, way above normal for his career. He hit .282 with 12 HR and 60 RBI in 574 AB, with a line of .282 AVG, .379 OBP, .409 SLG, .789 OPS his career is .265 AVG, .337 OBP, .384 SLG, .721 OPSLook at those splits from his career and you see a guy that cashed in on a career year at 34 years of age. Next season all those numbers will come way back down to his career norms, he wasn’t just above his career numbers, he was way above them. You don’t all of a sudden figure out how to hit 17 pts above your average, 22 pts above your on base percentage, 25 pts above your slugging and 68 pts above your OPS at 34. You are what you are for the majority of your career, its not coincidence up to this point of his career.

    • yougotrondod 6 years ago

      So I guess you are still under the impression Alex Gonzalez is an elite defender, which he clearly is not. He is still a good defender, but Marco Scutaro pre-injury outperformed him defensively. When considering the offensive upgrade Scutaro is over Gonzalez, it is a no brainer. I think people are really underestimating Scutaro defensively, he is very good. Gonzalez has definetly fallen off from his 2006 form, it was clear in his time with the Red Sox he wasn’t the same guy (even if he was better than Nick Green/Lugo).

  5. Fangaffes 6 years ago

    “Dave Cameron says the Red Sox “have traded on-base percentage for ultimate zone ratings.”

    Sorry Dave, if it was as simple as that, Alex Gonzalez would still be at short.

  6. Hey Tim are we going to have a chat today?

  7. Hey Tim are we going to have a chat today?

  8. myname_989 6 years ago

    What, like he “stuck it” to his wife? Can’t wait to face this guy in Philly.

    “How dare they pay him over $30MM and stick by him through domestic abuse charges”

    Lmao, Tim.

  9. myname_989 6 years ago

    What, like he “stuck it” to his wife? Can’t wait to face this guy in Philly.

    “How dare they pay him over $30MM and stick by him through domestic abuse charges”

    Lmao, Tim.

  10. BaseballFan0707 6 years ago

    As we can gather from this, in Brett Myers’s mind, you must stick it to people that stand by you and pay you handsomely, and abuse the people you love.

    To return said favor, the Phillies should stick it to Brett Myers by lighting him up if they face him this year, and the Astros should abuse him by leaving him out there to be roughed up in a similar way that he roughed up his wife.

  11. BaseballFan0707 6 years ago

    As we can gather from this, in Brett Myers’s mind, you must stick it to people that stand by you and pay you handsomely, and abuse the people you love.

    To return said favor, the Phillies should stick it to Brett Myers by lighting him up if they face him this year, and the Astros should abuse him by leaving him out there to be roughed up in a similar way that he roughed up his wife.

  12. nycalexs26 6 years ago

    The giants will designated for assignment either fred lewis or jesus guzman.

  13. nycalexs26 6 years ago

    The giants will designated for assignment either fred lewis or jesus guzman.

    • 55saveslives 6 years ago

      Possibly Merkin Valdez

      • We can always hope.

        And if nycalexs26 read the actual article, he would know that Fred Lewis doesn’t have a minor league option. He would have to be put on waivers. We’d be better off trading him to a team like the Pirates (AKA a bargain hunting franchise), even if it’s just for a second-tier prospect. Something’s better than nothing.

    • 55saveslives 6 years ago

      Possibly Merkin Valdez

    • nostocksjustbonds 6 years ago

      Or Alex Hinshaw or Kevin Frandsen or Matt Downs or Merkin Or Eugenio Velez….

  14. Jiujitsu411420 6 years ago

    Well if the cubs are worried about Calero’s health Dotel is still on the market and probably would be of equal value. I just hope they don’t sit back and watch while they both get swooped up by other teams. It has been a really slow offseason for them, I’m guessing they’re waiting for prices to drop a little which is probably not the worst idea. Maybe that will give us a few extra bucks to help us fill an extra hole or 2.

  15. Jiujitsu411420 6 years ago

    Well if the cubs are worried about Calero’s health Dotel is still on the market and probably would be of equal value. I just hope they don’t sit back and watch while they both get swooped up by other teams. It has been a really slow offseason for them, I’m guessing they’re waiting for prices to drop a little which is probably not the worst idea. Maybe that will give us a few extra bucks to help us fill an extra hole or 2.

  16. dodgers_suck 6 years ago

    i think if sabean doesn’t send fred lewis packing now he will via trade. thats if someone will take him. the person i think that gone now is valdez or frandsen. giants have a way over loaded infield with no need for him.

  17. dodgers_suck 6 years ago

    i think if sabean doesn’t send fred lewis packing now he will via trade. thats if someone will take him. the person i think that gone now is valdez or frandsen. giants have a way over loaded infield with no need for him.

  18. AkronHammer 6 years ago

    i think the giants have gotten better….. and i feel for fredy lewis

  19. AkronHammer 6 years ago

    i think the giants have gotten better….. and i feel for fredy lewis

  20. I’ve found the solution for the Yankees LF situation.Trade for Alex Liddi from the Mariners who is normally a third baseman.link to web.minorleaguebaseball.com could be able to play LF this year, and then by next year he could play RF, and then we’ll sign Crawford to play LF. :)(I wish)

    • Jason_F 6 years ago

      So, you want to trade for a guy who A) does not even play the outfield, B) has never played above high A ball, and C) is only 21 years old, and make him the starting left fielder for the most high-profile team in the majors?

      I am hoping this is some sort of sarcastic remark…but, sadly, I don’t think it is.

      • no, just that i’d rather have him over Gardner (who is nothing more than a high A ball player with some speed).

        • Macfan1 6 years ago

          Can I ask you a question what is wrong with this lineup for next season. Derek Jeter – SS – R – .406 OBP, .334 AVG, 2nd most hits in MLBNick Johnson – DH – L – .426 OBP, 3rd Highest OBP, 3rd highest pitches per at bat, 7th most walksMark Teixeira – 1B – S – .383 OBP, 39 HR, 122 RBIAlex Rodriguez – 3B – R – .402 OBP – 30 HR, 100 RBI despite missing 34 GamesJorge Posada – C – S – 22 HR, 81 RBI despite only starting 88 Games and featuring in 111Curtis Granderson – CF – L – 30 HR, 71 RBI produced primarily as a leadoff hitter and despite having below career years in AVG, OBP, SLG, OPS. Granderson in his career has a line of .272 AVG, .344 OBP, .484 SLG, .828 OPS, last season he was at a .249 AVG, .327 OBP, .453 SLG, .780 OPS. You figure Granderson will improve next season big time at the age of 29 in this Yankee lineup on those lines and be more in tune with his career averages across the board, due to the fact that he is 29, is going to be in a hitters park in Yankee Stadium as opposed to Comerica, was so well below his career averages and will be in a better lineup than he had in Detroit last season, as well as in a run producing spot in the order this upcoming season.Robinson Cano – 2B – L – .320 AVG, 3rd most hits in basball, 3rd most doubles and he has developing power with 25 HR last season. Nick Swisher – RF – S – name me another #8 hitter who had the 8th most walks in baseball as well as 29 HR and 82 RBIBrett Gardner – LF – L – All the Yankees want him to do is play excellent defense in Left, Left Center Field and whenever he gets on base from the #9 hole he will be running with abandonment. Everytime Gardner can reach 1st base he will be moving into scoring position from the 9 hole with his speed and Jeter and Nick Johnson coming to bat. Gardner had 26 stolen bases in only 108 games, he could steal 40+ bases from the bottom of the lineup because as the #9 hitter he will be running everytime he reaches 1st base. All the Yankees need is another platoon player to compliment Gardner in LF for the upcoming season. B.T.W. if anything he is not a high A ball player with some speed, but a high A ball player with excellent speed. :)

          That Yankees 1-4 of Jeter, Johnson, Teixeira, Arod have the higest OBP of any group of 1-4 in baseball. OBP means lots of tired pitchers having deep counts, lots of base runners and RBI opportunities.

          Oh and the Yankees improved defensively with Granderson in the outfield and got better at the back of the rotation with Vazquez being added, when you consider Joba was the #4 last season and is the #5 most likely next season.

          Giving the Yankees

          Sabathia – L – 230 IP

          Burnett – R – 207 IP

          Pettitte – L – 194 IP

          Vazquez – L – 219.1 IP

          Chamberlain – R – 157.1 IP

          That is what you would want out of a rotation to start your season.

        • Jason_F 6 years ago

          Except for Gardner has played in, and had moderate success in, AA and AAA, unlike your ludicrous suggestion for who the Yankees should trade for. Liddi also happens to be, depending on where you look, the #4 prospect in the Mariners system. You really know nothing about baseball transactions if you really think that this is a plausible solution to filling the LF position for the Yankees.

  21. I’ve found the solution for the Yankees LF situation.Trade for Alex Liddi from the Mariners who is normally a third baseman.link to web.minorleaguebaseball.com could be able to play LF this year, and then by next year he could play RF, and then we’ll sign Crawford to play LF. :)(I wish)

  22. SC_Giants_28 6 years ago

    Out of all the ones that have been named I would rather get rid of Valdez.

  23. SC_Giants_28 6 years ago

    Out of all the ones that have been named I would rather get rid of Valdez.

  24. averykelly 6 years ago

    i can’t believe yankeesfan4life right here .
    why would you need carl crawford . ?
    i hope everyone in the yankees and red sox system slows down and sucks .
    you deserve it , the yankees are an awesome team and have absolutely zero weaknesses .
    why do you need carl crawford . ?
    YOU DONT .

    • Jason_F 6 years ago

      Whether you think they need him or not, I guarantee you that the Yankees will be in the mix for Crawford if/when he hits free agency next offseason.

    • I’ll be honest with you, I know we dont desperatley need him for next year. But I’d be excited to have him. Dont point me out like that and act as if I was the first one to suggest this. Crawford becoming a free agent next offseason is the main reason why the Yankees arent shopping for one now.

      • averykelly 6 years ago

        why in the world would the yankees be in the mix . ?
        because of their money . ?
        their outfield is perfectly fine right now .
        overindulgence on your part to think this .
        and look at the yankees , no wonder they won the world series , they bought everyone .

        …can anyone say SALARY CAP . ?

  25. 0bsessions 6 years ago

    God damn am I glad Myers is an NL pitcher. It gives me hope that the Phillies pitching staff will have the good grace to bean that sorry sack of crap every time he comes to the plate. It’s not like spotting the Astros the free baserunner would be all that dangerous anyway.

  26. stroh 6 years ago

    As Myers said last year the Astros beat the Phillies 6 out of 7 (and oh by the way haven’t had much trouble with the world chumps over the last few years)…..this year with Myers it will be 7 out 7. Stick it to em, Brett !

  27. Macfan1 6 years ago

    Exactly, this lineup can more than afford Brett Gardner as the #9 hitter, it afforded him and Melky in CF last season. Which is why as you say if the Yankees add a Hairston/Reed Johnson to platoon, they are set to go in Spring Training.

    Can we imagine if Gardner can get his share of hits and get on base from the #9 hole with his speed. He will drive pitchers insane on the bases, with Derek Jeter and Nick Johnson and their high OBP at the plate, oh and the guy that hit in front of Gardner Swisher only had the 8th most walks in baseball and knows how to work the count and get on base even as a #8 batter.

    Having Gardner in the 9 hole sandwiched in between Swisher and Jeter and Johnson is pretty solid in my eyes. The key is for Brett to find his way on base by any means, whether it is push bunt, drag bunt, Hit by pitch, walks, slap hits, whatever it takes to be a pest in the 9 hole with the top of the Yankees order coming up.

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