Odds & Ends: Dunn, Delgado, Pujols, Mets

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Cosmo3
5 years 6 months ago

“Mets’ owner Fred Wilpon called the team’s offseason ‘torture,'”

Ouch for Minaya.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

This is the end for Minaya.

Glv80
5 years 6 months ago

I found it rather amusing myself!

alleykat23
5 years 6 months ago

With a GM like Minaya it will always be torture in NY.

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

Hate to tell you but it ain’t just Minaya. There’s Jeff Wilpon right behind him pulling a lot of the strings….and he’ll be there looooong after Minaya’s outta there – piteously enough. Talk about torture!!

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

Hate to tell you but it ain’t just Minaya. There’s Jeff Wilpon right behind him pulling a lot of the strings….and he’ll be there looooong after Minaya’s outta there – piteously enough. Talk about torture!!

VinnyG917
5 years 6 months ago

Yay! the Wilpons finally realized something. Ok so what they are saying is: The off-season was terrible, and it wasn’t their fault. I sure hope they asks themselves, Who is directly under us making all the shots? OMAR! Hopefully this is an indication of GM movement

icedrake523
5 years 6 months ago

The full quote was probably “The off-season was torture. The front office kept asking me to spend my money to improve the team. Every day they kept asking; it was torture.”

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

In an interview with him at the training camp he said something similar and then went on to say that he’s “probably the Mets’ #1 fan.” Hmm…so I guess it’s like “I just wanna love ’em – not spend on ’em.”

Ricky Bones
5 years 6 months ago

Kathy Bates was James Caan’s #1 fan in Misery. We saw how that one turned out.

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

Yeah, no kidding! Besides, I hate that type of label from a guy like Fred. The fact that he has more financial resources than most, loves baseball, and bought a team doesn’t make him #1 fan. They make him a rich guy who bought a team. True passion for the game comes from the heart – not the wallet. Anybody can have it.

Ricky Bones
5 years 6 months ago

The true number 1 fan who has those types of resources would put competent front office people in place, allow them to do their job & not meddle in the decision making.

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

“The true number 1 fan who has those types of resources would put competent front office people in place, allow them to do their job & not meddle in the decision making.”

….And not hide, or allow his son to hide behind said front office people – for any reason.

Anyway, amen.

crunchy1
5 years 6 months ago

Unfortunately, as long as the Wilpons are in charge, the Mets will have issues. Minaya may be ineffective, but I don’t imagine a lot of GMs thriving under such bad ownership. I predict that it won’t take long for the next Mets’ GM to become a scapegoat too.

phoenix88
5 years 6 months ago

i love how focused the nats front office is on pitching depth, but shouldnt Rizzo look to imprve the team in areas like 2nd base, first base and such?

natsfan3
5 years 6 months ago

Um Dunn is playing first base and they signed Kennedy. Not sure what more you want him to do.

TheFilibuster
5 years 6 months ago

I love how misquoted this website is when it comes to people. Wilpon did NOT say this off season was torture; he said WAITING FOR THE SEASON TO BEGIN WAS TORTURE. Anybody who thought he was referring to the moves they made this off season are absolute idiots – do you really think the owner would openly mock their own GM? I can’t believe how moronic some of you previous posters are. They asked him about the off season, he was saying that it was torture having to wait until the season finally begins NOT that the off season was bad..it amazes me how little logic people have

5 years 6 months ago

He wasn’t openly mocking him, but it was definitely a phrase which is amusing because it can be taken to mean that. If the waiting is hard, it does imply that one does not enjoy what is going on while one waits- especially if one says it was “torture.” I’m sure that wasn’t intentional, but it’s still funny. I mean, if you are waiting in a prison cell with electrodes in you- that’s torture. If you are waiting in a bar sipping some drinks with buddies, that’s not torture. Saying that waiting is torture implies that one does not enjoy the events occurring while one waits.

lefty177
5 years 6 months ago

maybe he was trying to be positive & say it was being torture to say that he can’t wait for the season to start because he has good feelings? maybe?

5 years 6 months ago

Perhaps. I assume he was trying to say something along the lines of “The waiting is the hardest part” but it just came out as a bit ambiguous.

HalfSt
5 years 6 months ago

Ladson is torturing us with that Twitter. We would love to think that the Nats have traded Cristian Guzman, but we know that this is not going to happen. Kasten is probably just shooting the breeze; Spring Training is not terribly eventful early on. I suppose the only other thing I can think of would be the result of Guzman’s check-up on Physiclals Day.

I’d love to be wrong.

TheFilibuster
5 years 6 months ago

Whoever wrote this article needs to revise it immediately, it is extremely misleading about what Wilpon was remarking…how amateur can you be at simply copying and pasting what a person said?

Ricky
5 years 6 months ago

I like what Wilpon says – it shows he cares

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

Yeah….he cares about the way he wants people to see him.

Ricky
5 years 6 months ago

He should. Its been a brutal last few yrs

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

Yeah….like “fan abuse!”

Ricky
5 years 6 months ago

I know I’m being realistic and optimistic but man he deserves some breaks. At minimum Reyes/Wright to come back to form

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

It’s a start, but when the opportunity permits he can give himself an even better break by springing for a first-rate SP to support Johan!

Ricky
5 years 6 months ago

Maybe @ deadline. We need a few breaks like Martinez having a good year @ AAA, 2 out of 3 of our non Johan starters doing well. and Beltran returning @ a good level

Ricky
5 years 6 months ago

I know I’m being realistic and optimistic but man he deserves some breaks. At minimum Reyes/Wright to come back to form

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

Yeah….like “fan abuse!”

Ricky
5 years 6 months ago

He should. Its been a brutal last few yrs

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

Yeah….he cares about the way he wants people to see him.

Rich_in_NJ
5 years 6 months ago

Say what you want about Boras, but if Delgado was his client, my guess is that Phillipon would have performed the first hip surgery.

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

Ey Boras – is that you, man?

Just kidding. Pretty good point.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

I’m sure Adam would like to stay with the Nats. 3/42 could do it if he repeats his 09 form.

crazynatsfan
5 years 6 months ago

3/42 would do it for any player thats to much money for a poor defensive player i would see something 3/30 or somewere along that amount

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

He got 2/20 last off-season when he hit 240 or whatever it was and struck out almost 200 times. Last season, he improved his AVG. and cut down on the strike outs. He’s never going to be a good defensive player but then again, nobody is perfect.

R_y_a_n
5 years 6 months ago

Here is the sad part – he was still worth only 1.3 WAR. Yes, his defense is THAT BAD. Put Adam Dunn at DH, and you have maybe the best full-time DH in the game. Put him in the field, and you’re likely wasting your money.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

wow, 1.3? I really would have expected it to be worse.

I think obivously a team like the Red Sox, White Sox, or any AL Team would love to have Adam Dunn as a DH, but he loves playing for the Nats and I actually think that they are going to get a deal done. If he hits free agency, he will go to an AL Club. Probably a contender but for now, he’s going to be working hard in Spring Training and hopefully do the best he can to make solid throws and good scoops at First Base.

5 years 6 months ago

Unless the Nats make a huge splash (finally) in the FA, Dunn walks to Boston. Dunn would crush Fenway and if BoSox pull the trigger for A. Gonzalez, that’s a now powerful lineup. Not sure how this factors in with VMart.

3/42 seems high. 3/34-37 seems right for a full time DH like Dunn.

What contracts are off the books for the Mets after this season?

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Tatis’ contract is up.

I just think that Dunn wants to stay where he is. I can’t see him leaving.

5 years 6 months ago

Not sure what clues Dunn is putting out there saying that he wants to stay where he is at, and since his arrival, no real moves have been made. Zimmerman is the one who was saying that he wanted to stay put if I remember correctly, hence the extension. Strasburg signing isn’t really relevant to this either since he won’t be ready for another year. They have the money, have offered to spend on the right FA, but…

I still say that Dunn walks to a yearly contender this time for a reasonable contract so he doesn’t get overkooked this time

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Dunn actually has said that he would sign an extension. And some real moves have been made. No Matt Holliday or John Lackey but Jason Marquis, Adam Kennedy, Pudge, Wang, Capps, and Morgan have come to the Nats via trade and signing. That’s some major improvements.

skoz
5 years 6 months ago

Am I the only one wondering where Pujols is mentioned?

Infield Fly
5 years 6 months ago

I got it! He’s mentioned in your question!

prophetjohn
5 years 6 months ago

yeah, what?

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Earlier today when it was posted for the first time, it was about Mozliak’s intentions to lock up Pujols.

skoz
5 years 6 months ago

Gotcha. Grazie.

Spirit of '69
5 years 6 months ago

Fred Wilpon is Captain Clueless. To use the words “third-highest payroll” as justification that the team could make mid-season moves is ridiculous. You can have a high payroll and still suck. He’s Joe Walsh, living a life of illusion.

nickunderhill
5 years 6 months ago

Did I miss something? Where is Pujols,

inleylandwetrust
5 years 6 months ago

bring dunn on over to the AL…dude was born to DH

icedrake523
5 years 6 months ago

I disagree. Martinez isn’t over 35 like those guys. While he’s a lousy catcher, he can still at least play the position; Damon and Dye don’t even belong in the OF and Branyan wasn’t healthy all year. Plus, Martinez is a switch hitter. You don’t find many switch hitters who have put up .299/.372/.465 over 8 years.

5 years 6 months ago

I don’t think V-Mart is a DH at this point. He’s maybe slightly below average, but not to a level that justifies moving him from the position at this point. (i.e. see: http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/2009/10/13/1082419/2009-catcher-defense-filling-in). Sure, in 3 years he’ll likely be a 1B/DH but that means he could have two more good years at catcher where his bat + average defense has translated to a WAR of about 5 annually except for 2008 where he was injured. That’s a top tier performance.

This isn’t LF where guys that can hit solidly are everywhere. And he’s not Dye who has been consistently many runs below average. He’s a slightly below average defender with a great bat for his position. Additionally: “clog the bases”? Who are you? Dusty Baker?

I have a completely opposing viewpoint. I think the Red Sox should extend him now and try for a 2 year extension with a mutual option for a third year. Why? Because Mauer is still on the market. So long as he is due to be a FA, there is leverage. V-Mart will always be the second place guy in the market until he signs or extends. So the Red Sox show get V-Mart on a team friendly deal now, rather than waiting for Mauer who is almost assured to be extended by the Twins during the season. At which point, discount time will be over. V-Mart would likely be entering the postseason as the best catcher available.

icedrake523
5 years 6 months ago

Blame Adam Rubin for tweeting “Fred Wilpon expects team to stay in family for generations, called offseason ‘torture.’ “

R_y_a_n
5 years 6 months ago

Yea, like icedrake said, more just terrible reporting by Adam Rubin.