Victor Martinez Hopes To Avoid Free Agency

Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald has an excellent article about Red Sox catcher Victor Martinez this morning.  Martinez explained that unlike some other players, he doesn't want to test free agency:

"I don't want to be jumping around, I don’t want to go somewhere else,  First, I didn’t want to go out of the Indians organization. Then I'm out, and now I'm here. I came to the place where a lot of players dream to come and a lot of players wish to play here in Boston. So I'm here, I do really want to stay here and hopefully end my career in Boston."

Regarding possible extension talks, Martinez says he's "open now until the season starts."  The Red Sox have a shot at getting a reasonable deal done, just as the Indians did when they locked Martinez up for five years at $15.5MM back in '05.  For more Martinez discussion, check out this MLBTR post from Wednesday.


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73 Comments on "Victor Martinez Hopes To Avoid Free Agency"


Hoosierdaddy92
5 years 6 months ago

Screw Boston Victor, Detroit needs you and will offer you more money. haha. And he probably will only catch for one year before being moved to DH.

5 years 6 months ago

i think he would want to win more than money

Deanezag
5 years 6 months ago

That’s what they said about Bay right? And about 99% of every other FA.
Let’s not be naive. Does he want to win? Yes. If he doesnt think Boston’s offer is fair or market value then chances are he’ll sign somewhere else.

5 years 6 months ago

bay was always about the money though, never once did he show any intentions of re-signing with any of the offers we made him. not to say every other player isnt but some players will take less to stay somewhere or win with said team.

Deanezag
5 years 6 months ago

Gammons said they had a deal done with Bay for a 4 year deal, but then Boston had major concerns about his knees so they wanted to change the deal, Bay didnt and then they split.

So “never once did he show any intentions of re-signing” is a false statement.

ReverendBlack
5 years 6 months ago

“Gammons said”

Your first mistake!

5 years 6 months ago

exactly

Deanezag
5 years 6 months ago

Lol, oh now Red Sox fans dont like Gammons?
Come on, your original statement that Bay had no intention of resigning is false.

ReverendBlack
5 years 6 months ago

I like him. I just don’t listen to him.

BaseballFan0707
5 years 6 months ago

In this guy’s defense, this was reported by just about every major news outlet. By multiple writers.

Deanezag
5 years 6 months ago

Gammons said they had a deal done with Bay for a 4 year deal, but then Boston had major concerns about his knees so they wanted to change the deal, Bay didnt and then they split.

So “never once did he show any intentions of re-signing” is a false statement.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

As much as it pains me to openly agree with a Sox fan, you sir, are 100% correct. Bay showed his true intentions.

Deanezag
5 years 6 months ago

So his true intentions was to have pretty much a done deal with Boston, then have Boston back out because of his knees? That was his master plan all along?

ElWaldorf
5 years 6 months ago

Fact is, he had at least two solid offers from the Red Sox and he walked away. You can blame his knees or his idiot agent for opening his mouth, its up to Bay to decide wants it. And now he has to suffer with the mets.

As for V-Mart, its a matter if he is able to catch for another couple of years. Mauer is staying with the twins and who knows when the Padres will start taking Adrian Gonzalez talks.

Deanezag
5 years 6 months ago

So his true intentions was to have pretty much a done deal with Boston, then have Boston back out because of his knees? That was his master plan all along?

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

As much as it pains me to openly agree with a Sox fan, you sir, are 100% correct. Bay showed his true intentions.

TradeYouk
5 years 6 months ago

“Then, following an All-Star break when the negotiations continued and the offer was upped to four years, $60 million, it appeared as though the momentum had hit a wall. While visiting Toronto for his team’s weekend series, Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein declared that nothing could be worked out and further talks would have to wait until after the regular season.

But it was during that same series that Bay had a change of heart, having had a long conversation with his wife, Kristen, which steered him back to the Boston offer. Upon returning to Boston from that road series, Bay told his agent, CAA’s Joe Urbon, that he wanted to accept the Sox’ offer.”

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/rob-bradford/2010/01/21/what-happened-jason-bay-and-red-sox

5 years 6 months ago

bay was always about the money though, never once did he show any intentions of re-signing with any of the offers we made him. not to say every other player isnt but some players will take less to stay somewhere or win with said team.

Deanezag
5 years 6 months ago

That’s what they said about Bay right? And about 99% of every other FA.
Let’s not be naive. Does he want to win? Yes. If he doesnt think Boston’s offer is fair or market value then chances are he’ll sign somewhere else.

alphabet_soup5
5 years 6 months ago

He could still win in Detroit, but not as much as in Boston. Detroit does have a TON of money coming off the books after this year, but I don’t think they should sign Martinez, who would be another aging player for the team.

5 years 6 months ago

i think he would want to win more than money

Hoosierdaddy92
5 years 6 months ago

Screw Boston Victor, Detroit needs you and will offer you more money. haha. And he probably will only catch for one year before being moved to DH.

04Forever
5 years 6 months ago

This is good news for Boston. Boston can lock up a top 3 MLB catcher easier then they probably deserve. I like Victor, love to see him sign a 4-5 year deal

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

I wouldn’t go as far as to say a top 3 MLB catcher. Perhaps not even top 10. I’d be looking to 1st base for the coming years, which unfortunately once again, does not solve the Red Sox catching issues.

He’d be a solid signing based on offensive production, but like the constant issue the Red Sox have, were do you play him. If the Sox really want to retain his services, they should plan for 1st and move Youk to third, which once again just keeps their infield merry go round, going round..

All in all he would be a good back up catcher long term to work with younger suitors and at first he would be valuable. Would he be worth signing? Sure, but not for 4 yrs and $60mm or anything of that nature.

5 years 6 months ago

ortiz and if we dont trade him lowell are coming off the books this year

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

I don’t understand your comment. Beltre is one year and this for the future. Martinez slides in at first in 2011 and Youk to 3rd. Yes Lowell will offically no longer be with the team at that point and unless Beltre then ok’s being a utility type, can’t see them resigning him going forward if the premium in on Martinez.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

I don’t understand your comment. Beltre is one year and this for the future. Martinez slides in at first in 2011 and Youk to 3rd. Yes Lowell will offically no longer be with the team at that point and unless Beltre then ok’s being a utility type, can’t see them resigning him going forward if the premium in on Martinez.

5 years 6 months ago

ortiz and if we dont trade him lowell are coming off the books this year

0bsessions
5 years 6 months ago

I don’t usually like to see large contracts handed out, but I’d consider a pretty decent one for Martinez. His ability to catch and play first base gives him the versatility that Ortiz didnt have as a full time DH. If the Sox signed Martinez for four years (I don’t know about $15 per, though), he could slide to the DH position primarily while playing backup at both first and catcher in the latter years. The Sox have some good catching prospects a few years off and if Martinez could stick at the position another year or two, having Martinez on hand to back the position up while DHing primarily would give the Sox some good versatility while leaving first base open for a potential acquisition of Adrian Gonzalez or another first base option a couple years down the line.

0bsessions
5 years 6 months ago

I don’t usually like to see large contracts handed out, but I’d consider a pretty decent one for Martinez. His ability to catch and play first base gives him the versatility that Ortiz didnt have as a full time DH. If the Sox signed Martinez for four years (I don’t know about $15 per, though), he could slide to the DH position primarily while playing backup at both first and catcher in the latter years. The Sox have some good catching prospects a few years off and if Martinez could stick at the position another year or two, having Martinez on hand to back the position up while DHing primarily would give the Sox some good versatility while leaving first base open for a potential acquisition of Adrian Gonzalez or another first base option a couple years down the line.

ReverendBlack
5 years 6 months ago

“He’d be a solid signing based on offensive production”

Not if he’s signed for catcher money.

Bravoboy10
5 years 6 months ago

Behind Mauer and McCann who is better than V-Mart?

lefty177
5 years 6 months ago

Mauer-1
McCann-2
Martinez-3
that’s it!

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

I wouldn’t go as far as to say a top 3 MLB catcher. Perhaps not even top 10. I’d be looking to 1st base for the coming years, which unfortunately once again, does not solve the Red Sox catching issues.

He’d be a solid signing based on offensive production, but like the constant issue the Red Sox have, were do you play him. If the Sox really want to retain his services, they should plan for 1st and move Youk to third, which once again just keeps their infield merry go round, going round..

All in all he would be a good back up catcher long term to work with younger suitors and at first he would be valuable. Would he be worth signing? Sure, but not for 4 yrs and $60mm or anything of that nature.

Deanezag
5 years 6 months ago

Top 3 catcher? Maybe with the bat, but not as an overall player.

Deanezag
5 years 6 months ago

Top 3 catcher? Maybe with the bat, but not as an overall player.

ivdown
5 years 6 months ago

Top 3 offensive catcher, maybe, if he actually plays most of his time there. If not, his defense isn’t that good (if at all good) and he doesn’t play more than 70% of his games at catcher.

04Forever
5 years 6 months ago

This is good news for Boston. Boston can lock up a top 3 MLB catcher easier then they probably deserve. I like Victor, love to see him sign a 4-5 year deal

BravesRed
5 years 6 months ago

I think he could get around 4-6/30-45, which averages about $7.5 million a year.

0bsessions
5 years 6 months ago

I would sign him to that in a heartbeat. With the pockets the Sox have, he’s worth that to full time DH alone.

0bsessions
5 years 6 months ago

I would sign him to that in a heartbeat. With the pockets the Sox have, he’s worth that to full time DH alone.

ReverendBlack
5 years 6 months ago

If he signs that contract, he will likely be enormously underpaid.

There are at least a few teams out there who would likely pay him premium catcher money as a FA.

BravesRed
5 years 6 months ago

I think he could get around 4-6/30-45, which averages about $7.5 million a year.

5 years 6 months ago

No-brainer, you can’t hinge on the fact that Maurer is going to be a free agent.

5 years 6 months ago

No-brainer, you can’t hinge on the fact that Maurer is going to be a free agent.

bbxxj
5 years 6 months ago

The fact that he ‘may’ not stick at catcher over the length of a multiyear deal should drive his price down. As a 1B/C he is nothing oustanding where at catcher maybe only Mauer and McCann are better.

5 years 6 months ago

agreed

5 years 6 months ago

agreed

bbxxj
5 years 6 months ago

‘As a 1B/DH’ I mean

I wonder how many years the Sox would want to go with him. Most of their best catcher specs are several years away right?

peterherman
5 years 6 months ago

The Sox’ best guys finished last year at AA. Exposito is widely regarded as their #1 catching prospect, and most folks figure he’s got at least this year to go in the minors. With Ortiz potentially coming off the books there’s the possibility of an opening at DH, which I agree ought to come at a discount over catcher.

5 years 6 months ago

same with lowell, whether traded or riding it out he is too. theres no way we pick up ortiz option at 12.5. most teams are moving toward a high obp type player instead of the typical slugger like ortiz is for the dh

ArodSucksAtLife
5 years 6 months ago

“most teams are moving toward a high obp type player instead of the typical slugger like ortiz is for the dh”

.288/.388/.578 -Ortiz’s numbers as Boston’s DH.

Pretty sure they are okay with that OBP.

Deanezag
5 years 6 months ago

I think he meant the player Ortiz is now, no longer in the prime of his career.

BaseballFan0707
5 years 6 months ago

Yeah he was talking about recently, not over his career.

5 years 6 months ago

same with lowell, whether traded or riding it out he is too. theres no way we pick up ortiz option at 12.5. most teams are moving toward a high obp type player instead of the typical slugger like ortiz is for the dh

peterherman
5 years 6 months ago

The Sox’ best guys finished last year at AA. Exposito is widely regarded as their #1 catching prospect, and most folks figure he’s got at least this year to go in the minors. With Ortiz potentially coming off the books there’s the possibility of an opening at DH, which I agree ought to come at a discount over catcher.

5 years 6 months ago

id be happy with 3 years with an team option

5 years 6 months ago

id be happy with 3 years with an team option

bbxxj
5 years 6 months ago

‘As a 1B/DH’ I mean

I wonder how many years the Sox would want to go with him. Most of their best catcher specs are several years away right?

bbxxj
5 years 6 months ago

The fact that he ‘may’ not stick at catcher over the length of a multiyear deal should drive his price down. As a 1B/C he is nothing oustanding where at catcher maybe only Mauer and McCann are better.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
5 years 6 months ago

Even if he’s not going to stick at catcher full time then he could be available to catch part time, DH, and play first when necessary. Sign him.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
5 years 6 months ago

Even if he’s not going to stick at catcher full time then he could be available to catch part time, DH, and play first when necessary. Sign him.

OhioSox
5 years 6 months ago

I don’t mind having a good player that wants to play in Boston.

OhioSox
5 years 6 months ago

I don’t mind having a good player that wants to play in Boston.

ZeroZeroZero
5 years 6 months ago

It would be a great idea to sign Martinez to a long term deal right now. Hes already just borderline a liability behind the plate so the team can make a smooth transition from one liability to the next.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

On a side note, did anyone notice this article in the side bar of MLBTR?

http://www.nesn.com/2010/02/red-sox-projected-to-have-best-record-in-majors.html

That’s an interesting outlook. I have absolutely no idea how the hell they made this assessment, but it’s worth a good laugh for the moment.

Only in Boston could something so unrealistic be said. Winning 94 perhaps. However I wouldn’t hold my breath, but 94 being the best overall?

Tim this may deserve a discussion all of it’s own. Named “Which 2010 MLB will be the win’s leader” or “Which 2010 MLB will have have the biggest surprise of a season” None of us can predict, but come on..

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
5 years 6 months ago

You do realize that’s not NESN’s projection… that’s Nate Silver’s PECOTA projections. It should be noted that Silver doesn’t live in Boston.

Which brings me back to our previous double edged sword conversation… had they projected Boston in third would you have said something different?

ReverendBlack
5 years 6 months ago

THATS BS I DONT GET IT ESPN SEZ HOMERS WIN CHAMPSIONSHIPS! WTF! RED SOX SUX!

BaseballFan0707
5 years 6 months ago

4 years 48 mil?

drumzalicious
5 years 6 months ago

His future depends highly on if Mauer gets signed to an extension. Even then i think a fair contract for him would be 4/60.

badscience
5 years 6 months ago

No brainer for the Sox… get’er done Theo. I think $40-45M/4 years would do the trick. He’s not going to be the full time catcher for the next 4 years, but his C/1B/DH flexibility is valuable not to mention his excellent hitting. Go Sox!

BoSoXaddict
5 years 6 months ago

The Sox will wait till Mauer signs before starting extension talks with V-Mart because if for some reason the Mauer talks fall apart you can bet Boston will go head-to-head with NYY in a bidding war for him. If Mauer gets extended by the Twins however, which seems likely, a V-Mart contract extension becomes a hot topic for sure. The main issue I would imagine is what their long terms plans for C are. V-Mart is the full-time catcher for this season but I doubt the Sox WANT him as the full-time C in 2011 and certainly not after that. None of our prospects will be ready for 2011, but they might be for 2012. But since the DH spot will basically be open after next season and Beltre could also be gone, it becomes much more likely for the Sox to use V-Mart as a DH or 1B and move Youk to 3rd. If they extend V-Mart and Beltre is only here for 1 season than he probably becomes the everyday 1B in 2011 with Youk @ 3rd. But if 1st and 3rd are still set for 2011 (either because A.Gonz becomes available or they find some other 3B/1B) then V-Mart becomes the full-time DH starting in 2011. Either way, with so much flexibility the Sox will certainly try to extend him once Mauer officially becomes a life-long Twin. My guess is something like 4 years/50mil

R_y_a_n
5 years 6 months ago

V-Mart shouldn’t be getting a 5 year deal. He can barely play catcher anymore, a switch first base looks like its coming in the new future. A .850-.875 OPS 1B is just “eh” and not worth 5 yrs/60 mil.