Odds & Ends: Calero, Beckett, Robles, Bay

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Triteon
5 years 5 months ago

The less the Cardinals talk about Calero, the more convinced I am that we’ll sign him.

Ferrariman
5 years 5 months ago

Roster is practically filled… Unless rich hill gets cut in the next few days and a
25-man spot opens up.

Ferrariman
5 years 5 months ago

Roster is practically filled… Unless rich hill gets cut in the next few days and a
25-man spot opens up.

j6takish
5 years 5 months ago

I miss Luke French….

Infield Fly
5 years 5 months ago

For the Mets, a team that didn’t significantly improve itself nor go on a spending spree this offseason, suddenly everything is about looking for discounts and minor league deals – and they started this earlier in the offseason than most teams hoping for bargains. I gotta wonder if ownership really is in deeper financial “doody” than they’ve been letting on all this time…

jaydh
5 years 5 months ago

mets improved on several areas….just because they didnt get a starter doesnt mean they didn’t improve. and outside of lackey and possibly sheets(which is understandable why they didnt go after him) there wasn’t any starter out there worth bringing in.

Infield Fly
5 years 5 months ago

My thoughts went beyond starters, but we could debate endlessly about whether they improved meaningfully. My main point here is about the whole “discount” thing. It doesn’t look like a good sign to me.

Infield Fly
5 years 5 months ago

My thoughts went beyond starters, but we could debate endlessly about whether they improved meaningfully. My main point here is about the whole “discount” thing. It doesn’t look like a good sign to me.

jaydh
5 years 5 months ago

mets improved on several areas….just because they didnt get a starter doesnt mean they didn’t improve. and outside of lackey and possibly sheets(which is understandable why they didnt go after him) there wasn’t any starter out there worth bringing in.

04Forever
5 years 5 months ago

I think if your an athlete represented by Scott Boras, you learned that you shouldnt take his advice, case and point, he is going to screw Ellsbury big time if Jacoby doesnt go long term early

BentoBox
5 years 5 months ago

Boras is good with getting players going their prime huge contracts.

BentoBox
5 years 5 months ago

Boras is good with getting players going their prime huge contracts.

04Forever
5 years 5 months ago

I think if your an athlete represented by Scott Boras, you learned that you shouldnt take his advice, case and point, he is going to screw Ellsbury big time if Jacoby doesnt go long term early

East Coast Bias
5 years 5 months ago

I don’t understand why people bash Boras so much. You realize that he’s simply trying to get the player the most money, right? The other alternative is to have the team (owner) get the money. Doesn’t it make more sense to have the player, the person actually producing on the field, try to get the most money he can?

Boras is a master of presentation and conviction; key skills in his line of work. Not to mention he uses the media outlets to his advantage like no other agent does. We “think” a player may want 5 years and x amount of money, because that is the calculated and choreographed press release Boras has sent out. So when the player signs for 3 years, while the public may see it as a “failure,” perhaps that was the goal all along.

While there may be a recent backlash from teams, Boras will still more than likely get his client overpaid because he does his homework and presents his case in a way which has the GMs are eating out of his hand. Especially the big ticket guys.

You can call him greedy, but if he’s just trying to get his player a bigger piece of the pie from the team, I’m okay with that.

East Coast Bias
5 years 5 months ago

I don’t understand why people bash Boras so much. You realize that he’s simply trying to get the player the most money, right? The other alternative is to have the team (owner) get the money. Doesn’t it make more sense to have the player, the person actually producing on the field, try to get the most money he can?

Boras is a master of presentation and conviction; key skills in his line of work. Not to mention he uses the media outlets to his advantage like no other agent does. We “think” a player may want 5 years and x amount of money, because that is the calculated and choreographed press release Boras has sent out. So when the player signs for 3 years, while the public may see it as a “failure,” perhaps that was the goal all along.

While there may be a recent backlash from teams, Boras will still more than likely get his client overpaid because he does his homework and presents his case in a way which has the GMs are eating out of his hand. Especially the big ticket guys.

You can call him greedy, but if he’s just trying to get his player a bigger piece of the pie from the team, I’m okay with that.

jaydh
5 years 5 months ago

I would say the guarenteed money is why they took a chance on escobar over sheets. I’m not a fan of them signing someone who is starting the season on the DL and I hope they pick up both Beimel and Calero.

jaydh
5 years 5 months ago

I would say the guarenteed money is why they took a chance on escobar over sheets. I’m not a fan of them signing someone who is starting the season on the DL and I hope they pick up both Beimel and Calero.

04Forever
5 years 5 months ago

link to mlbtraderumors.com

Read. Alot of people arent happy with his inability to live up to his word on delivering big money deals, or any deal at all. Ellsbury doesnt get any better then last year. 70 stolen bags and a .300 average is his ceiling, he is better to cash in now, but Boras wont because he is a clown

04Forever
5 years 5 months ago

link to mlbtraderumors.com

Read. Alot of people arent happy with his inability to live up to his word on delivering big money deals, or any deal at all. Ellsbury doesnt get any better then last year. 70 stolen bags and a .300 average is his ceiling, he is better to cash in now, but Boras wont because he is a clown

jaydh
5 years 5 months ago

the only one that would be benefiting from ellsbury signing now would be the red sox. if he stays on par with last yrs numbers he will get a decent payday down the road, more than we would if he signed now.

jaydh
5 years 5 months ago

the only one that would be benefiting from ellsbury signing now would be the red sox. if he stays on par with last yrs numbers he will get a decent payday down the road, more than we would if he signed now.

TimotheusATL
5 years 5 months ago

3 = a lot? I’d say you’re reaching just a touch. And of those three, two are 35+ years old and one had a somewhat flukey walk year.

Also, how can you claim that a player like Ellsbury has hit his ceiling when he’s got just over two years of service time? Seems patently absurd.

Also, bear in mind that of the contracts we KNOW (not speculate, such as the “Abreu money” stuff) were offered to Damon, Boras got him the one with the highest AAV in the end.

TimotheusATL
5 years 5 months ago

3 = a lot? I’d say you’re reaching just a touch. And of those three, two are 35+ years old and one had a somewhat flukey walk year.

Also, how can you claim that a player like Ellsbury has hit his ceiling when he’s got just over two years of service time? Seems patently absurd.

Also, bear in mind that of the contracts we KNOW (not speculate, such as the “Abreu money” stuff) were offered to Damon, Boras got him the one with the highest AAV in the end.

Ricky Bones
5 years 5 months ago

Who are “alot (sic) of people”? The readers of this website?