Top Trade Chips: NL East

Let's continue our top trade chips series today with the NL East…

  • Braves: The Braves aren't going to move Tommy Hanson and/or Jason Heyward, and they already traded away their top piece of bait this winter when they sent Javier Vazquez to the Yankees. What Atlanta does have is cache of big time pitching prospects in 20-year-old Randall Delgado,19-year-old Julio Teheran, and 19-year-old Arodys Vizcaino that they could dip into if needed.
  • Marlins: Florida has been reduced to flipping players before they get expensive through arbitration, nevermind get close to free agency. Dan Uggla is the team's highest paid player and also one of its most productive, but he's perpetually on the block because he's owed $7.8MM this season and will make even more in 2011 through arbitration. The Marlins could trade him, put Chris Coghlan back at second (his natural position), and call up super-prospect Mike Stanton to fill the vacant outfield spot.
  • Mets: Even though Carlos Beltran's knee is problematic and Jeff Francoeur is a perennial non-tender candidate, the team's best piece of trade bait is 21-year-old outfielder Fernando Martinez. Lefty reliever Pedro Feliciano could be used as trade fodder, but if ownership decides to part ways with GM Omar Minaya, then they could be in for a full blown firesale. Everyone not named David Wright would be available.
  • Nationals: Forget Stephen Strasburg, it's obviously not happening. However, GM Mike Rizzo has a valuable piece in Josh Willingham, who is no stranger to the trade rumor circuit. He is under team control through 2011, and his production isn't far off from Bay's. Relievers Matt Capps and Brian Bruney could be dealt as well.
  • Phillies: Philadelphia unloaded most of their top prospects to acquire Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay in the last nine months, so the cupboard is pretty bare. They could shop hard-throwing and oft-injured reliever Scott Mathieson, but the doomsday scenario could find Jayson Werth on the block if the Phils don't think they can re-sign him after the season. Of course that's highly unlikely, he's only the second or third best player on the top team in the league.


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103 Comments on "Top Trade Chips: NL East"


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Boz
5 years 2 months ago

“he’s only the second or third best player on the top team in the league.”

Phillies are not the top team in the league.

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Guest
5 years 2 months ago

Nice. Who is it then?

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Jason_F
5 years 2 months ago

Until someone clearly shows that they are better than the 2-time defending NL Champs, then, yes, they are.

Not to mention that they have the best offense so far and the second best ERA in the NL.

Guest
5 years 2 months ago

Well no denying they are a good team, but come on look at the competition or lack there of they have played. The Nationals, Astros, and Nationals again. Two of, if not the worst, teams in the National League. They can hit, but that pitching staff and bullpen would really worry me.

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Jason_F
5 years 2 months ago

How can you logically say that they are not the best team in the NL after they have gone to the World Series two years in a row and essentially have the same team (except for swapping out their ace and their 3B for better alternatives)? I don’t care who they have played this year. It really is ludicrous to say that any other team is better right now.

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Guest
5 years 2 months ago

You can’t.

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Ferrariman
5 years 2 months ago

Of course their the best. But not by a huge margin. And they did have an easy schedule to start the season.

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Jason_F
5 years 2 months ago

I never alluded to the margin of which they lead the pack by, just that it just doesn’t make sense to say that anyone else is better.

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Ferrariman
5 years 2 months ago

Actually you did allude to it lol

But I get what you meant. And don’t to full of yourself just yet. Cards/rockies aren’t far behind at all

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Jason_F
5 years 2 months ago

I’m a Giants fan, so I don’t know how my Phillies comments would suggest that i am full of myself.

Guest
5 years 2 months ago

I didn’t say they weren’t the best, I just said they have played an easy schedule so far. I also didn’t say any team was better than the Phillies, but I will say that a bullpen that is missing Lidge and Romero and a rotation that outside of Halladay and possibly Hamels is very mediocre at best. They are the two time defending NL champs, so technically they are the best. I am just curious as to how things will shape up. Don’t assume I don’t think they are the best team, just because I point out some flaws!

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foxtown
5 years 2 months ago

The Phillies are SO good… They are almost like an AL team.

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Garyoldman
5 years 2 months ago

I would really love to hear who is then.

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BIGPELF
5 years 2 months ago

i dont think the mets are going to trade fernado,ike davis,josh thole

one that i dont mind if they trade him its wilmer flores but i prefer to kept him because hes 18 years old and have to minor league years under his belt so he can come up in 2 years easily

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BIGPELF
5 years 2 months ago

atlanta should trade a couple of those prospects for a power hitter and they will be a hard team to beat

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icedrake523
5 years 2 months ago

“Everyone not named David Wright would be available.”

There are more players than Wright who wouldn’t be traded if they have a fire sale.

Member
5 years 2 months ago

Not by choice.

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icedrake523
5 years 2 months ago

They’re not trading Reyes or Santana since you can’t replace them. I don’t think they want to give up on Pelfrey either. Even trading K-Rod is pointless since it’s not easy to find an upgrade, especially in NY. He didn’t have a great year (his ERA is inflated from 2 bad outings when he gave up 10 runs in 0.2 innings) but with closers, everyone is more or less on the same level except Rivera.

Member
5 years 2 months ago

1. Reyes: If they go fire-sale, he’ll be gone. Guarantee you. They will get a haul for an amazing lead-off hitter.

2. Santana: Okay, that’s two. I’ll give you him. He won’t be traded.

3. K-Rod: Terrible contract. He’s untradeable. He has never been a shut-down closer, just a good closer on a team that plays a lot of close games.

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icedrake523
5 years 2 months ago

1. No. First, who is going to give you the same offensive production he is capable of? Ruben Tejada isn’t ready.

2. Three. I said Pelfrey wouldn’t be traded.

3. He’s still a good closer. IMO, there are 3 tiers of closers in baseball: Mariano Rivera, guys who have no business closing and end up losing their jobs, and everyone else. The “everyone else” have some flaw but you can live with them.

Member
5 years 2 months ago

Whatever we disagree on, we can agree 100% on your closer tiers.

If you need a shutdown inning, the best in history is Rivera.

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alphabet_soup5
5 years 2 months ago

1. When teams trade players, they don’t always have a backup that can match their production. They often don’t. As long as they have somebody who could play short if they wanted to trade Reyes they would do it.

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icedrake523
5 years 2 months ago

They’re not trading Reyes. He has a cheap option for 2011 and they’re not a small market that they couldn’t afford an extension. Because of his injury last year, they won’t get fair value for him. They’d be trading him for the sake of trading him which is just pointless.

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stl_cards16
5 years 2 months ago

So what’s the point in having a fire sale if your not going to trade anyone worth a damn? The point in a firesale is to re-build…and if their not willing to trade Wright, Reyes, or Johan….well then they will just be lucky to dump the rest of their salaries. Those are the only 3 players that are going to bring a good haul of young talent that can improve the team in the future. If none of those 3 are leaving they might as well stand pat and be ok with being bad for the next 5 years.

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icedrake523
5 years 2 months ago

We need to kill this myth that a team needs to have a fire sale to get better. Sometimes they do, like the Astros. But, contrary to what everyone wants to believe (since it’s always popular to hate on New York teams), the Mets aren’t in as bad a situation the Astros are.

Wright has a chance to be one of the top 5 3rd baseman of all-time. You don’t trade that type of player. Those trades rarely work out for the team receiving prospects.

Reyes’ value is too low that you won’t get back what you should. The only other reason to trade him would be his contract. However, he has a 2011 option for $11M (which isn’t outrageous) and they can sign him to an extension easily.

That leaves Santana. The first hurdle is getting him to agree to a trade because of his no-trade clause. Next, you’re going to have to find a team. Unless they want to eat a lot of his salary, their only options would be the Red Sox, Yankees, and maybe Angels. Finally, you have to get enough back for him to make trading him worth it.

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stl_cards16
5 years 2 months ago

The only reason the Mets aren’t in as bad a shape as the Astros is because they have more money to spend….With an extra 30mil a year I’m sure the Astros would have a couple more solid players too

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icedrake523
5 years 2 months ago

That’s not the only reason.

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icedrake523
5 years 2 months ago

We need to kill this myth that a team needs to have a fire sale to get better. Sometimes they do, like the Astros. But, contrary to what everyone wants to believe (since it’s always popular to hate on New York teams), the Mets aren’t in as bad a situation the Astros are.

Wright has a chance to be one of the top 5 3rd baseman of all-time. You don’t trade that type of player. Those trades rarely work out for the team receiving prospects.

Reyes’ value is too low that you won’t get back what you should. The only other reason to trade him would be his contract. However, he has a 2011 option for $11M (which isn’t outrageous) and they can sign him to an extension easily.

That leaves Santana. The first hurdle is getting him to agree to a trade because of his no-trade clause. Next, you’re going to have to find a team. Unless they want to eat a lot of his salary, their only options would be the Red Sox, Yankees, and maybe Angels. Finally, you have to get enough back for him to make trading him worth it.

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stl_cards16
5 years 2 months ago

So what’s the point in having a fire sale if your not going to trade anyone worth a damn? The point in a firesale is to re-build…and if their not willing to trade Wright, Reyes, or Johan….well then they will just be lucky to dump the rest of their salaries. Those are the only 3 players that are going to bring a good haul of young talent that can improve the team in the future. If none of those 3 are leaving they might as well stand pat and be ok with being bad for the next 5 years.

Guest
5 years 2 months ago

Werth the 2nd or 3rd best player on the Phils? What about Utley, Howard, Rollins, Halladay, etc.???

Member
5 years 2 months ago

As an all-around player, Werth is better than Howard and might be better than Rollins.

Guest
5 years 2 months ago

Let’s get real here. Howard > Werth

Member
5 years 2 months ago

What does Howard do besides hit homeruns and get walked?

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Jason_F
5 years 2 months ago

Those are pretty damn good attributes to have to go along with consistently average defense. If Werth puts up another year like 2009 with the bat and displays significantly above average defense (both to prove that he is capable of doing it consistently), I’d say that they are pretty close in value. I think, for now, that Howard gets the edge because you know what you are going to get because he has done it for a longer period of time.

Guest
5 years 2 months ago

strike out…

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alphabet_soup5
5 years 2 months ago

And strikeout

Guest
5 years 2 months ago

I guess you thought Barry Bonds, V2.0 (‘roids), sucked, too.

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Yankees10
5 years 2 months ago

Uh…No way. Howard is ten times better than Jayson Werth. Rollins is also better.

Member
5 years 2 months ago

Rollins is 50/50. If he has a normal year, then yeah, he is, but if he has another 2009, no way.

Guest
5 years 2 months ago

SS is a scarcer/tougher position than OF.

Rollins is a top 5 SS.

Werth is not a top 5 OF.

Think about it.

Utley, Halladay, Howard, and Rollins are unquestionably better/more valuable than Werth is. AT BEST, he’s the Phil’s 5th best player, not 2nd or 3rd.

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BIGPELF
5 years 2 months ago

last year rollins didnt play great so take him out of the list

Roy Halladay good every five days so take him out of the list

Victorino could be in that list to so i say hes the 3 best player,utley the second best best player,howard the beast so werth its the 4 best player

Guest
5 years 2 months ago

Having an off-year shouldn’t take that much away from how good a player is.

Halladay is far and away a better player than Werth, SP or not.

And yeah, Victorino is arguable. I only listed guys who aren’t really debatable.

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BIGPELF
5 years 2 months ago

look at reyes

Member
5 years 2 months ago

Howard is terrible at everything but hitting homeruns. The only two clear-cut better-than-Werth are Halladay and Utley.

Guest
5 years 2 months ago

1. HRs are a pretty big deal.
2. I think Howard had a better AVG than Werth last year.
3. Let’s Compare their MVPs/Silver Sluggers/next contracts.

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Muggi
5 years 2 months ago

Ah, the hype machine at work. It cracks me up people still think this, when virtually every stat says you’re wrong.

Guest
5 years 2 months ago

Who’s hyped, Werth or Howard? And what stats are you talking about?

Member
5 years 2 months ago

Rollins isn’t even in the same stratosphere as Werth these days. Howard hits a ton more homers, but Werth does everything else better.

Guest
5 years 2 months ago

I love how defense, position, and HRs are irrelevant to some of you. Not sure why I’m even bothering with someone like that.

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aap212
5 years 2 months ago

Werth isn’t better than Utley, Halladay, Rollins, or even Hamels, if he bounces back at all. There are so few remotely good shortstops that Rollins is clear, and while Howard is flawed and overrated, a first basemen with a career OPS+ over 140 is better than a corner outfielder the same age who’s never topped 130 and has a significant injury history.