Odds & Ends: Harper, Cardinals, Zaun, Snell

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31 Comments on "Odds & Ends: Harper, Cardinals, Zaun, Snell"


Ferrariman
5 years 2 months ago

I wonder what it would take from the cardinals to get cliff lee.

CodyG
5 years 2 months ago

not enough in the farm system… it would take something like
craig,sanchez,and someone else maybe lynn. They can’t afford to trade someone like lynn or sanchez when the dark days of Holliday and Pujols taking 50M of the roster, the farm is going to be essential to their success.

brian310
5 years 2 months ago

buehrle maybe? he wants to pitch for the cardinals (his hometown team) before he retires

CodyG
5 years 2 months ago

buehrle’s contract would extend another year and add 1M more to his salary meaning the cardinals would be paying him ~7M this year and 30M for ’11 and ’12 combined. I don’t want the cardinals to spend that much on him when they need that money for pujols…

5 years 2 months ago

The Yankees never offered Jesus, and have no reason to offer him now.

Zack23
5 years 2 months ago

How do you know? They offered him straight up for Doc, if they were willing to do that then Cashman would have offered him straight up for Lee too.

But there is no reason to offer him now for a few months of Lee + 100m contract

VoteForPrado
5 years 2 months ago

I know the Yankees typically buy whoever they want, but I wasn’t aware that they were able to get Jesus.

Sorry, had to.

5 years 2 months ago

Roy Halladay is a far better pitcher than Cliff Lee. And that was a straight up one for one trade.

Cliff Lee, it’s not worth it. Keep the prospects and wait until the offseason. The Yanks ability to repeat does not hinge on having Cliff Lee. It hinges on sorting out the bullpen.

Ian_Smell
5 years 2 months ago

I wonder if Snell will complain about the Seattle fans not cheering for him whenever he didn’t pitch well. What a worthless bum.

darkdonnie
5 years 2 months ago

Yankees would have never traded us Montero…not to mention Montero is moving to 1st where we have some guy named Ryan Howard. Makes no sense.

I’ve read numerous reports that the only other team The Phillies were in contact with was Texas. That’s it.

5 years 2 months ago

Montero is not moving to first. Wherever you heard that, someone lied to you. If anything, he might move to the outfield.

darkdonnie
5 years 2 months ago

Haha ok. Considering I’ve never seen one article suggesting a move to the OF, where I’ve read multiple reports of him trying 1B.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2010/02/12/2010-02-12_montero_gets_first_taste.html

ZeroZeroZero
5 years 2 months ago

Ken Rosenthal is a joke. He makes stuff up daily just to say something.
I cant imagine the Yankees giving up top prospects for Cliff Lee only to have to sign him to a $100m+ deal at the end of the season when they wouldnt trade top prospects for Johan Santana only a few years ago. Yankees have shown that under Brian Cashmans full control that they greatly value their developed players and they just dont trade them.

CodyG
5 years 2 months ago

I think the Cardinals would have to take on some salary if they wanted to pick up someone(I’m guessing at most 5-6M) Goold has suggested someone like Bannister would meet the fit but I think someone meeting the mold of Millwood would work as well. Heck I would take Ground Baller Puppy kicker Brad Thompson who would be pretty cheap…
I know some fans who want Buehrle, that’d be great but I doubt something like that would happen considering the value and contract Buehrle has.
A few other Candidate I would suggest are
*Sheets
*Lowe or Kawakami if the Braves decide that a rotation of Hudson, Hanson, Jurrjens, and who ever isn’t traded is enough to push them to the playoffs. (i doubt this happens though)

aap212
5 years 2 months ago

Is there any chance Selig would let them announce a deal as big as Harper’s will inevitably be before the deadline?

vtadave
5 years 2 months ago

Why not? They can announce it whenever they want can’t they?

aap212
5 years 2 months ago

They COULD, technically, but the commissioner’s office has strongly discouraged it. Name a well above slot deal that’s been *officially* announced more than a day or two before the deadline in the past couple of years. And Harper is going to be way above slot.

aap212
5 years 2 months ago

They COULD, technically, but the commissioner’s office has strongly discouraged it. Name a well above slot deal that’s been *officially* announced more than a day or two before the deadline in the past couple of years. And Harper is going to be way above slot.

vtadave
5 years 2 months ago

Why not? They can announce it whenever they want can’t they?

aap212
5 years 2 months ago

Is there any chance Selig would let them announce a deal as big as Harper’s will inevitably be before the deadline?

aap212
5 years 2 months ago

Also, I’d love to see Dave Duncan take a shot at Snell.

aap212
5 years 2 months ago

Also, I’d love to see Dave Duncan take a shot at Snell.

Zack23
5 years 2 months ago

You remember wrong. It was Hughes + Melky + another prospect, Joba was off limits.
And show your source for saying the Yankees didnt get a window to negotiate with Johan.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/11/30/2007-11-30_yankees_decide_to_offer_phil_hughes_in_p-2.html

Zack23
5 years 2 months ago

You remember wrong. It was Hughes + Melky + another prospect, Joba was off limits.
And show your source for saying the Yankees didnt get a window to negotiate with Johan.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/11/30/2007-11-30_yankees_decide_to_offer_phil_hughes_in_p-2.html

Zack23
5 years 2 months ago

You’re assuming it’s an actual offer out there. Cant kill a team for not doing something that doesnt exist.

Zack23
5 years 2 months ago

You’re assuming it’s an actual offer out there. Cant kill a team for not doing something that doesnt exist.

ZeroZeroZero
5 years 2 months ago

and if I remember the offer was pulled pretty quickly. obviously they will have to include something good in a deal for a top pitcher but they werent going to package together the cream of their farm system for anybody if they were going to have to sign him to a long and big $$ deal shortly after. Judging by the deal the Twins got for Santana, nobody was too thrilled with the idea of giving up the world AND spending a fortune. Same deal will be in place for Cliff Lee. They might get one notable prospect for him but they arent going to get the world.

aap212
5 years 2 months ago

They have good luck with left handers? Because they developed Andy Pettite fifteen years ago and C.C. Sabathia couldn’t turn down a vault full of money and hasn’t declined 18 months into a contract?

aap212
5 years 2 months ago

They have good luck with left handers? Because they developed Andy Pettite fifteen years ago and C.C. Sabathia couldn’t turn down a vault full of money and hasn’t declined 18 months into a contract?

5 years 2 months ago

Montero’s ceiling and level of talent is about 100000000000000000x higher than Austin Jackson’s. That trade was great for the Yankees, as Jackson is coming back down to earth in recent time as that 27% K rate is normalizing him out.

Jackson has nothing more than doubles power, and will probably be good for, at most, 35 SB a year. Granderson has the potential for 25+ HRs and Doubles (it’ll be tough with the time he missed with injury, but he has looked better).

When I look at the two, I see the same player, but one can actually hit a the long ball (and no, even if Jackson were in a hitter’s park, I’d expect him to have very little in terms of home run production).

Zack23
5 years 2 months ago

But at the time, it wasnt the Mets were sending over scrubs, the pitchers were their top talent.

But yes, there’s not going to be any Erik Bedard trades where a team gives up 5 top guys, especially if the guy is a year or less away from FA.