Will Dodgers Pursue Bullpen Help?

The Dodgers need bullpen help, in the opinion of Bill Shaikin of the L.A. Times.  Manager Joe Torre has been leaning heavily on closer Jonathan Broxton, who failed to protect a four-run lead against the Yankees last night.  Shaikin feels that the Dodgers have only two other reliable relievers – Ronald Belisario and Hong-Chih Kuo.

GM Ned Colletti has already stacked the Albuquerque Isotopes' roster with veteran relievers – Jesus Colome, Jack Taschner, Kiko Calero, and Claudio Vargas are recent additions.  Asked over email by MLBTR whether he is looking to upgrade the bullpen and if he'd be open to renting a reliever, Colletti was noncommittal: "Always depends on who is coming in and who is going out."  Talking to Shaikin yesterday, Torre said, "I know Ned is certainly not zeroing in on one little area."  In other words, Colletti is considering more than just starting pitching.

If Colletti looks to make a deal, I imagine Kerry Wood, Kyle FarnsworthOctavio Dotel, D.J. Carrasco, Brendan Donnelly, and Javier Lopez can be had.  I also wonder about Brandon League, David Aardsma, Brandon Lyon, Matt Lindstrom, Jason Frasor, Scott Downs, Kevin Gregg, and Matt Capps.  The remaining salary on these contracts ranges from $413K for Lopez to $5.59MM for Wood. 


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45 Comments on "Will Dodgers Pursue Bullpen Help?"


DODGERDOG_16
5 years 2 months ago

if they get brandon league they will have a great bullpen

crashcameron
5 years 2 months ago

you sound like the M’s fans who looked at League’s peripherals and sabers and all that.
none of that mattered to Jays’ fans.
Sometimes visual evidence still outweighs stats: no matter how many League mows down, he will give up the back-breaking bomb.
Kyle Farnsworth always had great stuff, didn’t he?

DODGERDOG_16
5 years 2 months ago

thats true

DODGERDOG_16
5 years 2 months ago

what team do u go for

crashcameron
5 years 2 months ago

montreal expos!
steve rogers forever

5 years 2 months ago

HUH?
His career K/BB is 2.18. His K/9 is 6.8. No one thinks League is a superstar. What a stupid diss. I’d like to know what stats point to League being a dominant reliever to make this strawman case.

But that being said, he’s given up almost exactly 1 home run per 9 inning pitched in his career. Current Jays closer Kevin Gregg stands at 0.94. I’d like to bet you wouldn’t notice that 1 extra home run per 150 innings pitched.

crashcameron
5 years 2 months ago

you sound like the M’s fans who looked at League’s peripherals and sabers and all that.
none of that mattered to Jays’ fans.
Sometimes visual evidence still outweighs stats: no matter how many League mows down, he will give up the back-breaking bomb.
Kyle Farnsworth always had great stuff, didn’t he?

Roy Munson
5 years 2 months ago

With Torre Running a Bullpen, You need all the bullpen help you can get… Just ask Paul Quantril, Scot Proctor, Tom Gordon, Tanyon Sturtze, Juan Acevedo, Steve Karsay… am i leaving anyone off the list whom Torre ended their careers because he cant manage a bullpen???

killacam04
5 years 2 months ago

How about Corey Wade hes never been the same guy and injury prone. Troncoso looks like hes been worn down so that may be another one.

Gumby65
5 years 2 months ago

I think Joe Torre got his gigs with glowing endorsements from the Kerlan-Jobe practice, to keep them in business.

thegrayrace
5 years 2 months ago

Scott Proctor with the Dodgers as well, then Cory Wade, and currently Ramon Troncoso.

Cory Wade was actually good. His ERA in ’08 was not much above 2.00. He’s been in the minor leagues since 2008 with injury trouble and ineffectiveness.

Ramon Troncoso is the guy Torre is currently abusing, his ERA has been over 5.00 since July 2009, yet Torre runs him our there more than anybody else…

thegrayrace
5 years 2 months ago

Scott Proctor with the Dodgers as well, then Cory Wade, and currently Ramon Troncoso.

Cory Wade was actually good. His ERA in ’08 was not much above 2.00. He’s been in the minor leagues since 2008 with injury trouble and ineffectiveness.

Ramon Troncoso is the guy Torre is currently abusing, his ERA has been over 5.00 since July 2009, yet Torre runs him our there more than anybody else…

$1529282
5 years 2 months ago

Who needs bullpen help? They just signed Jack Taschner!! Problem solved.

DODGERDOG_16
5 years 2 months ago

jack is just dept their not gonna bring him up right away

$1529282
5 years 2 months ago

I was being sarcastic anyway… Taschner is awful.

aap212
5 years 2 months ago

When you call those Triple-A arms help, I think of the song from Free to Be You and Me: “Some kinds of help are the kinds of help we all could do without.”

sportsnut969
5 years 2 months ago

Well don’t look for the indians to pick up any of the remaining contract unless there is a very nice prospect involved.

sportsnut969
5 years 2 months ago

How about Jerry Sands and Kyle Smit For Kerry Wood and the Indians pick up half of his remain contract for the rest of 2010.

Gumby65
5 years 2 months ago

Still wondering why Torre didn’t just walk out to the mound and shoot Broxton instead of subjecting him to that slow, painful death…

bobraines
5 years 2 months ago

would have helped if he could have gotten a call from the home plate ump. He was terrible. Did you see Martin when he got rung up on the same pitch that was repeatedly called a ball for Broxton?

ekohn
5 years 2 months ago

I’m basing this entire opinion on having watched the play by play on game cast, but it seemed to me that by the time Huffman singled to bring home the third run, it was more than clear that not only did Broxton not have his best stuff, but his pitch count was in area where it was beginning to affect velocity and command. With a weak hitting lefty coming up and two outs, it seemed like the PERFECT time to bring in Kuo and his near 1 ERA to strike out Curtis and avoid Jeter. The guy has given up only 1 run since his first outing of the year, and has not allowed ANY HITS to lefties all year.

bleedDODGERblue
5 years 2 months ago

Thought he was going to punch the ump in the face.

bobraines
5 years 2 months ago

he had a “shard” of a bat in his hand, too.

bobraines
5 years 2 months ago

he had a “shard” of a bat in his hand, too.

bleedDODGERblue
5 years 2 months ago

Thought he was going to punch the ump in the face.

bobraines
5 years 2 months ago

would have helped if he could have gotten a call from the home plate ump. He was terrible. Did you see Martin when he got rung up on the same pitch that was repeatedly called a ball for Broxton?

ekohn
5 years 2 months ago

oh please, one bad game from the ace of the pen and hell freezes over. Let’s analyze this pen. Broxton is one of the best closers, if not the best closer in the game. Belasario is a very acceptable 8th inning guy. I hesitate to call Kuo an excellent 8th inning guy, because he can’t go 3 days in a row, but he can dominate any lefty in the game, and is a very acceptable 7th inning guy. Something is clearly wrong with Sherrill – he gave up 1 run in the NL last year. Maybe he finds his form, but if he doesn’t the back end of the rotation isn’t exactly shabby. Let’s not forget Troncoso, who is going through a rough patch, but has at times been a very reliable set up guy. Other than that, Jeff Weaver has been very reliable, and Justin Miller looks ok so far. Could always use another arm, but Colletti should be fired if he gives up a top prospect for a set up man two years in a row.

thegrayrace
5 years 2 months ago

Troncoso has been very reliable at one thing – being mediocre. The guy has an ERA over 5.50 that dates back to July 24, 2009.

He’s been riding a hot 3 months opening 2009 for way, way too long.

ekohn
5 years 2 months ago

oh please, one bad game from the ace of the pen and hell freezes over. Let’s analyze this pen. Broxton is one of the best closers, if not the best closer in the game. Belasario is a very acceptable 8th inning guy. I hesitate to call Kuo an excellent 8th inning guy, because he can’t go 3 days in a row, but he can dominate any lefty in the game, and is a very acceptable 7th inning guy. Something is clearly wrong with Sherrill – he gave up 1 run in the NL last year. Maybe he finds his form, but if he doesn’t the back end of the rotation isn’t exactly shabby. Let’s not forget Troncoso, who is going through a rough patch, but has at times been a very reliable set up guy. Other than that, Jeff Weaver has been very reliable, and Justin Miller looks ok so far. Could always use another arm, but Colletti should be fired if he gives up a top prospect for a set up man two years in a row.

bobraines
5 years 2 months ago

Kuo wasn’t available to pitch, though he would have been a logical call had he been.

Broxton was up in the eighth, when the lead was smaller, and then sat down when the Dodgers scored, and Troncoso got up. The third out came too soon for Troncoso to be ready, so Broxton went in, anyway. He wasn’t in the right frame of mind, if you ask me, and then was getting pinched on the low strikes.

bleedDODGERblue
5 years 2 months ago

You’re talking about the low pitches that were strikes for the Yankees but balls for the Dodgers? Martin shoulda punched him….

bobraines
5 years 2 months ago

exactly. but if martin had slugged the ump, we’d be looking for a catcher as well as a starting pitcher and relief help… would have made a great sportscenter highlight though….

thegrayrace
5 years 2 months ago

Going with Lucas May and A.J. Ellis wouldn’t be much of a downgrade at this point.

thegrayrace
5 years 2 months ago

Going with Lucas May and A.J. Ellis wouldn’t be much of a downgrade at this point.

bleedDODGERblue
5 years 2 months ago

You’re talking about the low pitches that were strikes for the Yankees but balls for the Dodgers? Martin shoulda punched him….

5 years 2 months ago

I will never understand why Weaver is pitching out of the bullpen when he could be a serviceable 5th starter.

5 years 2 months ago

I will never understand why Weaver is pitching out of the bullpen when he could be a serviceable 5th starter.

5 years 2 months ago

The point wasn’t the poor SP of the Yanks during that time. The point was that, given a bullpen full of relievers, he went to the same guy. Over, and Over, and Over. It was a year to year thing. To be honest, you don’t find it weird that just about every one of those pitchers (Gordon was good in 06, but then was done after that) were never really the same after Joe Torre was finished with them?

It is a proven fact agreed upon many. Joe Torre picks a reliever (not including the closer, he thankfully isn’t that thick-headed), and abuses the hell out of him. This coming from a life-long Yankee fan who grew up with Joe Torre’s Yankees.

5 years 2 months ago

I’m assuming the RP is getting trashed line was supposed to read SP is getting trashed. Do you go with the hot hand at the expense of him having any form of a career in the future?Tanyon Sturtze is actually the perfect example of Torre’s lack of bullpen management skills. He was, in fact, pretty bad. Yet, time and time again, that’s the guy he went to.Citing age, if anything, hurts your argument. If those pitchers were so old and so traveled, what business did Torre have abusing them even further?

Truth is, Joe Torre is not a good manager. In NY, the Yanks didn’t and still don’t need a good manager. They need a guy who is good at handling the media and is able to take the brunt of the blame from the media whenever something is going wrong. Torre was great at that-You never heard Joe during his time here lash out at the media or refuse to meet with them-anything.

inkstainedscribe
5 years 2 months ago

At David O’Brien’s blog, I made a similar comment about Torre overworking a few arms while he was with the Yankees and DOB something along the lines of, “Joe always figures if he burns one out, the boss will go out and buy another one.” That could be a problem if Frank McCourt doesn’t have the moolah …

5 years 2 months ago

Rather than listing out the numerous names, here are some links. You’ll need to scroll down:2003: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/200... 2004: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/200... 2005: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/200...2006: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/200...2007: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/200...r>The point is that he had pitchers he could have spread innings and appearances around.

5 years 2 months ago

Rather than listing out the numerous names, here are some links. You’ll need to scroll down:2003: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/200... 2004: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/200... 2005: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/200...2006: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/200...2007: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/200...r>The point is that he had pitchers he could have spread innings and appearances around.

alphabet_soup5
5 years 2 months ago

Girardi managed the Yankees in 2008.

alphabet_soup5
5 years 2 months ago

Girardi managed the Yankees in 2008.

5 years 2 months ago

Yeah, my bad on that, i went over a year there @_@.You’re just selecting one name out of many and throwing it out there. I’m sorry, but I can’t accept that as validating your point. Relievers are a dime a dozen, and one bad outing can spike their ERAs for a season.