Odds & Ends: Smoak, Giants, McDonald, Orioles

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ramiro magana
5 years 1 month ago

He should realize that Prince Fielder would get them to the playoffs and probably save his, just give up J. Sanch, he is too inconsistent anyway

SixtoLezcano
5 years 1 month ago

It’s going to take a lot more than Jonathan Sanchez to get Prince Fielder.

ramiro magana
5 years 1 month ago

I know that but he is going to be the main player in the trade along with possibly zachary wheeler and maybe a AA prospect

SixtoLezcano
5 years 1 month ago

Trade talks would probably start with Madison Bumgarner, though I could obviously understand the Giants not wanting to give him up. If the Brewers aren’t blow away Doug Melvin is just going to hold onto Fielder for now.

rainyperez
5 years 1 month ago

You are right and I suspected the same thing. It is going to be Sanchez, Wheeler, AA-AAA reliever, and maybe a position prospect BUT they maybe willing to take those three pitchers. The reason we chose Wheeler for our Futures Game was to showcase him to potential trade partners. He is quite raw but has huge potential! At a fairly young age he is throwing some serious heat and decent offspeed stuff. A lot of teams know that we produce some of the best young arms in the game the last couple of seasons and I think that gives us an advantage in the trade market! Even though I would hate to lose Wheeler and Sanchez we already have Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner, Zito so it doesn’t hurt too much… in case one of the goes down we can dabble in FA or replenish in the draft. But I hope Fielder gets on the Giants cause he would be a huge boost to our offense and he might be reinvigorated for a playoff contender.

ramiro magana
5 years 1 month ago

Finally somebody agrees with me, and I wouldn’t losing them for Fielder but Hart, I would be very upset, I’ve seen too many Right handed hitter fail in SF

Hubbs2
5 years 1 month ago

If we are going to be sniffing the playoffs, depleting our biggest strength, the rotation, would be extremely detrimental to that. If the Giants could put together a package of, say, Wheeler, Neal and anybody not named Belt, Bumgarner or Posey I would be happy with. I just dont see Fielder being able to contribute long term. And anything that involves Hart coming to the city would make me sick, sans a Hart for Rowand trade straight up

letsgogiants
5 years 1 month ago

Maybe something like P. Fielder + C. Hart for J. Sanchez, T. Neal, T. Wheeler, H. Sosa, C. Tanner, R. Kieschnick, C. Gillaspie, and M. Main? I might be completely off, but I don’t know how else it would be done without giving up Cain/Bumgardner/Posey. This trade would help replenish a weak Brewers farm system and they would be receiving 5 quality arms in return.

SixtoLezcano
5 years 1 month ago

Wheeler is a few years away and Sanchez isn’t very good and is almost a free agent, Brewers need young major league ready pitching. If the Giants don’t give up Bumgarner then they probably aren’t getting Fielder.

ibleedorangeandblack
5 years 1 month ago

why i like a fielder for sanchez + prospect(s) trade: fielder is an amazing bat. has the power to hit homeruns even at spacious AT&T Park.

why i dont like a fielder for sanchez + prospect(s) trade: who says fielder is going to stay longterm? i dont want a rent-a-player

Hubbs2
5 years 1 month ago

Fielder, I do not want. After two years I guarantee you will regret this trade. Before last year when we lucked into a playoff “chance” we were begging for a rebuild. Why mortage the farm for an overweight, slob who can only hit homers. Please, have you seen Cecil, you’re walking down the same road. We’re TWO legit hitters away from the series, and that includes Aubrey/

Please, stick with a rebuild. Pitching is the hardest commodity to come by, and bowtie & co. seems to pick it at will.

rainyperez
5 years 1 month ago

He’s not just an overweight slob who hits HRs…he also has driven in over 100 RBIs the last three seasons and has averaged an OPS of .969 . Can you name any player on the Giants that have done that in the last three years?

Unlike some people who want to continuing rebuilding, a majority of us want to see a championship or at least a playoff appearance right now. Because as we all know anything can happen in the playoffs.

Prospects are players who are unproven in the majors, so why rely so heavily on rebuilding if you don’t know what the finished product is like? I’m not saying trade away the farm, but if you have certain prospects in the farm to get us one player that can build us a playoff lineup for the next two years then you should take it. Its been over 56 years since we had a trophy and 7 years since we tasted a playoff atmosphere in San Francisco. Also if Fielder leaves and he continues his high production we will get compensated with picks to further replenish our farm system. The point us we have a playoff rotation and a solid bullpen. The only thing that is missing is an impact bat that can put us over the top. I’m not to sure I understand your two bats away from the series because where are you going to get TWO legit bats for a decent price? As it stands if we get Fielder I would definitely love this lineup..

1.Torres
2.Sanchez
3.Huff
4.Fielder
5.Posey
6.Uribe
7.Sandoval
8.Burrell/Rowand/Schierholtz

Our only main concern with this lineup is Sandoval. He is the X-factor and if he gets it going our playoff aspirations will increase and then you can move him up higher in the lineup if need be.

rainyperez
5 years 1 month ago

He’s not just an overweight slob who hits HRs…he also has driven in over 100 RBIs the last three seasons and has averaged an OPS of .969 . Can you name any player on the Giants that have done that in the last three years?

Unlike some people who want to continuing rebuilding, a majority of us want to see a championship or at least a playoff appearance right now. Because as we all know anything can happen in the playoffs.

Prospects are players who are unproven in the majors, so why rely so heavily on rebuilding if you don’t know what the finished product is like? I’m not saying trade away the farm, but if you have certain prospects in the farm to get us one player that can build us a playoff lineup for the next two years then you should take it. Its been over 56 years since we had a trophy and 7 years since we tasted a playoff atmosphere in San Francisco. Also if Fielder leaves and he continues his high production we will get compensated with picks to further replenish our farm system. The point us we have a playoff rotation and a solid bullpen. The only thing that is missing is an impact bat that can put us over the top. I’m not to sure I understand your two bats away from the series because where are you going to get TWO legit bats for a decent price? As it stands if we get Fielder I would definitely love this lineup..

1.Torres
2.Sanchez
3.Huff
4.Fielder
5.Posey
6.Uribe
7.Sandoval
8.Burrell/Rowand/Schierholtz

Our only main concern with this lineup is Sandoval. He is the X-factor and if he gets it going our playoff aspirations will increase and then you can move him up higher in the lineup if need be.

jwredsox
5 years 1 month ago

McDonald just started doing the one thing that made him struggle in the minors, he learned to hit a breaking ball.

dc21892
5 years 1 month ago

True that, and he’s playing very solid baseball. I like him and Nava a lot in the OF right now, but a move is still needed.

jwredsox
5 years 1 month ago

I just think maybe he isn’t 100% a fluke this year though his spot obviously isn’t with the Sox. Just hate to see him leave and get stuck back where he was like Nick Green

5 years 1 month ago

I think both McDonald and Nava top out as 4th outfielders right now, so I think a move is still needed. Personally, I like Nava better…but either would be just fine in that role

5 years 1 month ago

Why do the Sox need to make a move for a bat? They are scoring runs and hitting the cover off the ball even with all the injuires to their key parts.A move for a bat right now would be very unpractical. McDonald and Nava are doing a great job filling in the offensive hole left by Ellsbury and Hermida. I don’t think the Sox are missing out on much here other than the fact they lose a significant threat on the base path in Ellsbury.With Martinez back by the end of the month, as well as Hermida and Beckett in the wings, I think the Sox will be better off on saving the farm system and let their key players come back just in time when the playoff race starts really heating up.The only trade we’ll probably see at the deadline from Theo is a move for a much needed solid relief pitcher. At the end of the day, the reason why the Sox lose games is because of their bullpen outside of Bard. That’s definitely the most pressing issue right now.

johnsilver
5 years 1 month ago

McDonald has a habit of chasing pitches out of the strike zone both outside and uo that is hard and off speed pitches period about anywhere out of the strike zone that pitchers have learned to exploit. Nava on the other hand seems to just have a weakness with the breaking ball in the dirt thus far.. He has much quicker hands than does McDonald and eyes are better for balls and strikes. Shame he’s not a better fielder tho which pretty much negates value, meaning he will be sent to Pawtucket probably when Hermida comes back after the AS break. If he could play CF would rather see him by far than both Hall and McDonald constantly chasing every single pitch they see out of the zone and striking out constantly.

Not to mention, Nava has a habit of even making “loud outs” on a continual basis.

damnitsderek
5 years 1 month ago

Way to instill confidence in your team, Sabean.

ibleedorangeandblack
5 years 1 month ago

i think a smarter quote wouldve been something like “adding a bat would definitely help us get to and compete in the playoffs”. not saying the giants will make it to the post-season. they easily could. but its a coin toss.

Lookouts400
5 years 1 month ago

Regarding Kevin Cowherd’s column, keep in mind that a little while ago, he was doing features pieces after having failed as a sports columnist some years ago. He wasn’t much better at being a male version of Erma Bombeck, so they moved him back to the sports desk. He’s an idiot, plain and simple.

55legend
5 years 1 month ago

Giants, its either half a year with Ishikawa and inconsistent pitching by Sanchez, or the Prince between Huff and Posey (in the lineup) which would mean good pitches for Huff AND Fielder, ideally our two best power hitters. Money baby, money.