Odds & Ends: Nolasco, Wuertz, Vazquez, Workman

Some links for Friday, as the Cliff Lee drama unfolds…

  • Ricky Nolasco may become trade bait, according to MLB.com's Joe Frisaro (via Twitter). The Marlins would listen to offers for the 27-year-old righty.
  • The Yankees have Orioles infielder Ty Wigginton and A’s reliever Michael Wuertz on their radar, according to George A. King III of the New York Post.
  • The Yankees aren't close to moving Javier Vazquez and could hold onto him until July 31st even if they acquire Lee, according to Newsday's Ken Davidoff (via Twitter).
  • Red Sox second rounder Brandon Workman and his advisor have given clear indications that the pitcher would not accept a deal for second-round money, according to Alex Speier of WEEI.com. Workman has turned down a six-figure bonus before and appears ready to re-enter the draft in 2011 if the Red Sox don't offer him the bonus he feels he deserves.
  • The Chiba Lotte Marines are closing in on a deal with Hayden Penn, a right-hander currently pitching in the Pirates' system, according to reports that Patrick Newman of NPB Tracker passes along.
  • The Marlins, Brewers, Orioles, Phillies, Yankees, Dodgers and Red Sox watched Mark Prior pitch, according to Tom Krasovic of AOL FanHouse (Twitter link). The 29-year-old Prior is making a comeback.


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44 Comments on "Odds & Ends: Nolasco, Wuertz, Vazquez, Workman"


scottandwtb
5 years 1 month ago

Would the Phillies & Yankees go for a Vazquez for Werth swap? Hm.

5 years 1 month ago

Not a chance. What would the Phillies want with an over-the-hill pitcher when dealing Werth would mean conceding the division this year anyway?

Brad426
5 years 1 month ago

Dealing Werth for a SP wouldn’t be conceding the division if they though Brown was ready to be called up. In fact, it would be smart… so don’t do it Phillies.

nm344
5 years 1 month ago

Not for a scrub like Vazquez.

Brad426
5 years 1 month ago

A scrub that dominated the NL last year. And while his numbers aren’t great in a much tougher AL East, he still has given up 75 hits in 88 innings and has a BAA of .233. As a Braves fan I really hope he does NOT end up a Phillie.

5 years 1 month ago

Werth is more much more than Vazquez in the trade market. Plus Vazquez’ best days are behind him. I want no part of that mess.

Brad426
5 years 1 month ago

Fair enough, albeit irrelevant. The question is does Reuben Amaro? And keep in mind we are talking about 1/2 year of Werth, not a long-term lock-up kinda thing, so there won’t be a huge haul for him.

Yankees420
5 years 1 month ago

Brown gives the Philly lineup way too many lefties.

Brad426
5 years 1 month ago

Utley (when healthy), Howard, Ibanez, and then Brown, right? That doesn’t seem like overkill, especially since Utley hits lefties like he is a righty. If the mindset of the organization is that Brown isn’t a significant drop-off from Werth and they can get a SP for a guy they lose at the end of the season anyway, trading him makes sense, regardless of handedness.

Yankees420
5 years 1 month ago

Personally, I don’t think it makes sense for either team. If the Phillies are going to trade Werth, they should get more than an expiring contract back, and without him Utley, Howard, and Ibanez would probably be batting one after the other, then Brown would most likely be in the 6 or 7 hole, so 5 lefties in a row, or 5 of 6 lefties in a row seems too lefty heavy to me.

Brad426
5 years 1 month ago

I don’t disagree, but the Yankees are the ones inquiring on Werth (according to George A. King III or King George III or some damn body). Werth for Vasquez makes less sense for the Yankees than it does for the Phillies, in my opinion.

Yankees420
5 years 1 month ago

Completely agree, the only way that Werth makes sense in my mind, is if they trade Granderson, move Gardner to CF and Swisher over to LF, but that seems like a lot of work to upgrade an OF that has been very solid this year.

Yankees420
5 years 1 month ago

Brown gives the Philly lineup way too many lefties.

coolstorybro222
5 years 1 month ago

that is the most retarded trade propsal ever.

scottandwtb
5 years 1 month ago

your mom’s retarded

jwredsox
5 years 1 month ago

That would be funny if I were 6

scottandwtb
5 years 1 month ago

Oh, so you’re an adult then? Ok, then how ’bout this Mr. “All Grown Up”: your stockbroker’s retarded.

5 years 1 month ago

Has crazy has this deal sounds . . . it makes you think about what the Yankees will do in Right Field from here on out. I don’t see Chad Huffman taking regular at bats in Right Field so, is Jayson Werth or Corey Hart beyond the reach of the Yankees?

And is it possible the Yankees could trade for Lee and not extend him. Let him walk and receive Type A compensation.
The compensation would be a 1st rounder and a supplemental pick. The supplemental pick is squeezed in between rounds 1 and 2, so with due diligence you can replenish what you gave up.

I believe Hart and Werth are projected Type A FA as well, so they could do the same thing with either one of them.

Yankees420
5 years 1 month ago

Has something happened to Nick Swisher? Last I checked he is have a great year in RF, as is Gardner over in LF, so there really is no need for Huffman to take regular AB’s in RF.

As for the compensation picks, there is no way that you can expect to get someone of Montero’s caliber with any comp. picks that the Yankees would receive. We are talking about one of the best hitting prospects that’s in the minor leagues.

jhawk90
5 years 1 month ago

Twins should go after Vazquez, beats anyone not named Pavano or Liriano right now.

Abraham Zapruder
5 years 1 month ago

Brandon Workman pulling a Matt Harrison. I hope it ends up the same way.

johnsilver
5 years 1 month ago

Workman won’t get near what he thinks will next year and slip further next year in the draft unless he dominates for a few reasons. He’ll be a senior and with a much better prospect filled draft. I can see Boston still offering him 1-1.5M to sign and bargaining in good faith, but if he does not want to sign? they still get a good pick (just as good a player, maybe better) at around #57 in a very deep draft next year. read that Workman probably in next years draft will probably slip down a few rounds if he just maintains his last couple years worth of collegiate production.. Not smart and boston pays good bonuses also, unlike many teams.

5 years 1 month ago

@Bill Joba’s body/arm can’t handle being a starter. Your point is valid, but I still wouldn’t stunt Hughes’ growth by demoting him at this point. If he’ll be there in the playoffs, so be it, that happens to all but the top 3-4 pitchers. With the season he’s having though, I wouldn’t mess with him. Deal Vazquez and get a good return on him and see how Hughes fares while thrust into the fire. Javy may retire for all we know, so maximize the return while you can.

@Abraham I agree. Eff Brandon Workman. Wouldn’t sign with the Phils last year and not only won’t sign for slot now, but won’t sign for money commensurate with the round he was drafted in. Have fun not playing pro ball another year, d-bag. Situations like this is why MLB has the worst draft in sports.

Yankees420
5 years 1 month ago

Joba is only 24 years old and was a full time starter for 1 season, I don’t think we can write him off as not being able to handle it just yet. I feel that he deserves at least one more chance to prove he can start, and that chance looks like it’ll be next year.

CC
Lee
AJ
Hughes
Joba

Not a bad starting 5 if you ask me.

jwredsox
5 years 1 month ago

Why would the Marlins sell low on Nolasco? Some team needs to jump on that

coolstorybro222
5 years 1 month ago

LETS DO IT BRAVES

Brad426
5 years 1 month ago

The Braves have too many pitchers (I know, there is really no such thing) as it is. Hudson and Lowe each have 2 more years on their contract, Kawakami has 1, and Medlen, JJ, and Hanson are locked up for a while. So can’t see the them trading for pitching unless somebody else gets moved… and THAT probably won’t happen because the off-season proved other teams think $15M is too much to touch Lowe and $7.3M for KK seems laughable right now.

coolstorybro222
5 years 1 month ago

KK’s in the bullpen you numbnut. We have 4 legit starters and one bullpen guy.

scottandwtb
5 years 1 month ago

who’s the one bullpen guy? Medlen? Lowe? Jurrjens?

Brad426
5 years 1 month ago

No kidding, right? Medlen EARNED his starting spot.

Brad426
5 years 1 month ago

Numbnut? Wow. I am aware of who is where, but the fact is KK at $7.3M is making starter money and has to be considered as a starter by the front office when making staffing decisions. They can’t justify $7.3M for a long relief guy.

You are the one who suggested that the Braves go trade for a piece they have no need for and can’t afford without trading a different starting pitcher and you call me numbnut? Classic. Learn your team before post stuff.

Cherry_Buster
5 years 1 month ago

Wow Red Sox, another case of the large market teams overpaying for talent… No wonder people go crazy over their farm system, they basically pay off high school players not to go to college… One day ESPN will talk up a pick by the Sox, and everybody will think they did some great scouting to get some guy in the second round, when in reality they just pay them not to go to college.

jwredsox
5 years 1 month ago

When did ESPN say it was great scouting? Every team probably knew he was down there because of his contract demands. No surprise here.

5 years 1 month ago

Yeah, because clearly the Red Sox are the only big market team in the draft. And CLEARLY they sign every high impact player they draft like Matt LaPorta, Pedro Alvarez, Yasmani Grandal, Hunter Morris, Alex Meyer, etc. It’s the lower market teams that should sign these high bonus kids anyways. They hold out over 1 or 2 million for a kid who could be an absolute stud when they can’t afford to go out and get marquee free agent talent and this is their only shot at aquiring blue chip talent. Make no mistake, every team in the MLB has the resources to sign at least a few guys overslot in the top few rounds. But then again, why let actual facts get in the way of your completely ignorant rant?

5 years 1 month ago

Workman is a college pitcher.

Mauerneau
5 years 1 month ago

Nolasco would be an interesting option for the Twins now that Lee is out. He would be cheaper than Haren and Oswalt and is under team control until 2012. He has good control which the Twins obviously love, but he has some nasty stuff that could make him the ace which the twins lack, especially right now.

jwredsox
5 years 1 month ago

I think if the Marlins are serious about dealing him a lot of teams should be going for him. Guy has great stuff and entering the season I thought he would have a great year. Hasn’t happened but he has looked good his last 2 starts.

NYPOTENCE
5 years 1 month ago

I definitely like the idea that Mark prior is making a comeback and i would love to see a team sign him just so that he gets his econd opportunity

Brad426
5 years 1 month ago

He has had his 2nd chance and got cut.

Brad426
5 years 1 month ago

He has had his 2nd chance and got cut.

corey23
5 years 1 month ago

Wuertz isn’t going anywhere

5 years 1 month ago

This would be Priors 4th or 5th chance not second. Wouldn’t mind seeing the Pirates go after Nolasco if he is on the block although I doubt they have anything to give. I wouldn’t mind them going after Vazquez either depending on what the Yankees want for him.

Yankees420
5 years 1 month ago

That kid Pedro looks interesting….jk. But seriously, Vazquez would probably cost a good not great bullpen arm and a B prospect, at least in my opinion.

5 years 1 month ago

Make Hughes the setup man? Are you not understanding Hughes is your #2 or 3 right now, which makes him your #3 or #4 even after acquiring Lee? You’d stunt the development of a starter having a breakout year by holding onto horrible Vazquez? BRILLIANT IDEA. I’d rather you dealt him to Philly for Werth. We’d be all over that, since you value Hughes so little.