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Ferrariman
i expect big years from porcello and Scherzer in 2011. both are primed for breakout seasons. they will probably add a free agent as well.
hartvig
Porcello has got to find a strikeout pitch. Bill James looked into this in his last Baseball Abstract & the last starting pitcher to have more than a couple of decent seasons with a strikeout rate of below 4.5 per 9 innings was Lew Burdette. Porcello was at 4.76/9 in 09 and 4.53/9 this season. He has got to turn that trend around or he’ll be out of baseball in a few more years.
baseballdude
look what porcello is doing today against the blue jays so far 7ip 2 hits 0 walks 5 strikeouts . there is no chance porcello will be out of the legue until he retires
Dave_Gershman
Max Scherzer: 2011 AL CY Young Award Winnner. I just called it.
I would like to see Charles Furbush get a chance as well.
jwredsox
Francisco Liriano. You heard it here
Dave_Gershman
Better chance than anybody not named Max Scherzer.
baseballdude
sherzer is going to win the cy young. in 14 starts from going to toledo he has an era of 2.20
Dave_Gershman
some of the best stuff in Baseball, 98 mph wih movement, good slider.
Changes speeds, knows how to use it.
baseballdude
1 of the best if not the best changeup
Patrick OKennedy
Always liked Liriano. Could be another Santana if he caught a few (health) breaks.
Patrick OKennedy
Charlie should have gotten a mention in this article. He’s had a fine season and is moving up the ladder. He should be added to the 40 man roster, if not called up in September (which isn’t likely, IMO). Oliver has the better stuff, and will be in the rotation once he can command his off speed pitches, but Furbush has to be on the radar as well, for depth if nothing else. BTW- Luke Putkonen and Casey Crosby are another pair from the 07 draft that have to be somewhere on the list.
Dave_Gershman
Don’t forget Brayan Villareal. Great stuff and over 9.0 k/9.
baseballdude
the tigers r probably goin after a free agent instead of figaro or oliver
Patrick OKennedy
The Tigers need to bring in at least one top end starting pitcher for the 2011 season. With $ 34 million coming off the payroll due to the expiring contracts of Bonderman, Robertson, and Willis, the money is there if they can find a match. Easier said than done, of course. Cliff Lee would be the obvious choice, but he’s probably headed to New York or staying in Texas. After that there is a considerable drop off in the free agent class. Maybe a trade for a Garza or Nolasco can be worked out. Maybe Arroyo will be available on the free agent market. Maybe steal Pavano from the Twins.
Bonderman is inadequate and always hurt. Oliver showed that he is unable to locate his off speed stuff yet, but he will be a good one when he’s ready. Figaro isn’t an option. Galarraga is a fine No. 4 or 5, but what’s needed is a No. 2 to slot after Verlander, and let Scherzer and Porcello develop.
baseballdude
id like to see them get garza or pavano
Patrick OKennedy
Swing a trade for Garza and Bartlett!
baseballdude
who do u think we would have to give up??
Patrick OKennedy
That’s hard to say. Some very good prospects, I’m sure, and the Rays are pretty deep in prospects. They’ll need a 1B when Pena probably leaves, but I don’t think Strieby would do much for them. Maybe a Brennan Boesch would interest them. Of course, any club would be interested in Oliver or Turner. Garza is the expensive one, with Bartlett being a non tender candidate if they can’t move him. Bartlett is pretty sure to be dealt, IMO, because they have Brignac and Sean Rodriguez who are ready to take over.
gamaize
Not a bad idea.
Moving next to Bartlett is: Inge or Peralta? I lean towards Peralta only for the fact it is a one year commitment and I am not sure I want to give Inge more than one year. While I love his glove, I am not sure his body will keep going, he seems to spend more time on the DL each year. I am not a huge Peralta fan but I think he would do ok at third provide a little more consistancy with the bat (than Inge) and would be playing for his next contract.
This trade would take care of two problem areas throw in Peralta at third and we can focus on C, OF/DH, and the pen.
baseballdude
yeah ten we can make a run at crawford . if victor martinez is going to be a fa we can try to get him. then sign like a vladimir guerrero or someone like that.
j6takish
Vlad is staying in Texas, no two ways about it. Besides, we have Guillen under contract…he will be DHing no way he is allowed to play the field ever again
Patrick OKennedy
Not that I’d do it, but I’d bet heavily that Leyland will have los Carlos back at 2B next season, backed up by some combination of Sizemore, Santiago, and Rymes. The DH will be used for Guillen somewhat, but also maybe Ordonez if he’s back, and a Dunn or Hawpe type of bat in the 5 slot to protect Cabrera.
Patrick OKennedy
I really can’t stand Jhonny’s defense, either at third or SS. There are limited options on the FA market at 3B. Beltre is about it, and he wanted no part of Detroit when he signed with Seattle (who did at that time?). If Figgins is available, I’d be all over him. Overpaid, yes, but better than Peralta, or Inge. Worst case, bring Inge back, but no more than a year or two. Castellanos can’t be ready soon enough!
baseballdude
yeah id love to have figgins in detroit 🙂
gamaize
I’m not a huge Peralta fan either, however, Inge’s injuritis concerns me. I am content with either Inge or Peralta at third for next season. I lean towards Peralta, although I like Inge better, as it would be a one year deal. We would give some D away but we would also gain some O.
Tigers have deferred to Defense for the last few years and I want some offense.
Or resign Inge and go after Dunn and Martinez for offense.
I am only looking at Peralta for third, not SS.
verlander
//Justin Verlander knows exactly which past rotation he’d like the Tigers to model themselves after.
“Braves,” Verlander said, without hesitation. “Obviously that’s three Hall of Fame pitchers – you can’t really ask for that – but that’s the rotation I grew up watching. I grew up watching the Braves, I grew up watching Smoltzie [John Smoltz] and [Greg] Maddux and [Tom] Glavine just go after it and [perform] in the postseason. Those three guys – nobody wanted to face them.”//
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//”Max has been probably one of the best pitchers in baseball in the second half,” Verlander said.//
I agree!
baseballdude
yeah i agree to cant think of anyone better can you
Tigerstalk_fan
Swing a trade for Greinke. He seems to want out of KC and the Royals shopped him at the trade deadline. John Buck is a free agent, sign him. He would fill the hole at catcher. Also the Tigers might be able to pry Bautista away from the Blue Jays. He can be a free agent after 2011. Bautista is a formidable third baseman and can also play the outfield.
baseballdude
peoples saying he is not going to have a good season next year but i think he can have a 40+ homerun season again next year
Pawsdeep
Dombrowski has made it no secret that he wants greinke and/or lee
With a total of 75 million and 5 incredible propects I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets both this offseason.
baseballdude
im a tigers fan who is r 5 incredible prospects?? turner,oliver,strieby and who else??
Pawsdeep
Crosby and furbush—te way jay sborz has been throwing you could say that he has 6