Stark On Crawford, Werth, Beltre, Torre

Commissioner Bud Selig told ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark that he’ll consider expanded instant replay and adding a second Wild Card team. Stark also passes along news on the player-agent industry and rumors from around the league:

  • The MLBPA and MLB have agreed to move up the date by which teams have to tender contracts and offer arbitration to free agents in an attempt to hurry the offseason along. This development could mean that we see fewer unsigned players late in the offseason.
  • The players’ association is working to better regulate interactions between players and agents. For example, agents can’t promise anything of value to players who they don’t represent. No more free trips or cars from rival agents!
  • Players who can go to arbitration or file for free agency will now have to check in with the MLBPA before changing agents.
  • Five of the six executives Stark surveyed named Carl Crawford this year’s best free agent position player (Jayson Werth received one vote).
  • The Yankees are more likely to bid aggressively on Crawford than Werth, but Cliff Lee figures to be their top free agent target.
  • Stark says the Red Sox, Angels, Dodgers, Tigers and Giants seem like the best bets to pursue Werth this offseason.
  • Adrian Beltre puzzles Stark’s sources, since he has so much upside, but tends to flash his ability most tantalizingly in contract years.
  • Three baseball people who are all acquainted with Joe Torre say the Dodgers manager would like to manage the Mets next year, but they don’t think it’ll happen.
  • Atlanta GM Frank Wren anticipates that the Braves will be in the market for a veteran reliever again this winter.


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100 Comments on "Stark On Crawford, Werth, Beltre, Torre"


Gumby65
4 years 11 months ago

Why don’t we just add 14 wild-card teams and make the season as ridiculous as the NHL’s?

NickinIthaca
4 years 11 months ago

Or the NBA’s…. why not have 50% of the league in the playoffs. I think the wild-card idea is actually more frustrating to me than the expanded replay and I am completely opposed to replay in baseball

4 years 11 months ago

Honestly Basketball is whole different game compared to baseball you can’t really compare the two in regards to playoffs and when you look at the NCAA its even worse with March Madness so yea ;).

Jessamynn
4 years 11 months ago

I know you’re not serious but in case anyone was wondering, the NHL (as well as the NBA) has 5 wild card teams. :)

Sniderlover
4 years 11 months ago

Try thinking financially. It would help tons of team, mostly small markets if they could attract more fans through playoffs.

Personally, I think MLB should add another wild card for AL and NL.

moonraker45
4 years 11 months ago

Not even making the playoffs, but just being in the playoff hunt for another wild card spot down the stretch would increase revenue, hype and fans.

I think this should happen..

Scrap the 3 divisions, First place AL/NL teams play the winner of the wild card series, 3 game series 4th vs 5th place, 2nd vs 3rd. and voila.

Another interesting, but less liked idea is having teams cross over AL/NL right away.
Top records in AL/NL get a bye in to the second round
1st round

a)2nd AL vs 5th NL
b)3rd Al vs 4th NL
c)4th NL vs 3rd NL
d)5th AL vs 2nd NL

2nd round

1st AL vs lowest NL
1st NL vs lowest AL
3 vs 4
4 vs 3

etc etc
more games but 2 more teams make the playoffs plus the top teams get a bye

foxtown
4 years 11 months ago

I think your 2nd idea (1st round bye) is better. The playoffs already go on too far into the fall without having an extra series at the front end and the owners would never stand for losing regular season games to compensate.

moonraker45
4 years 11 months ago

More ridiculous then teams not making the playoffs for 20 years. or better yet teams that have 100 games remaining but are pretty much already out of the playoff picture.

You’re right things are great right now, why tinker.

4 years 11 months ago

I’ve always been a fan of Jon Rauch, I wouldn’t mind seeing him in a Braves uniform next year. I also wouldn’t mind bringing Farnsworth back, although not at the price of his option. Either way, we just need a veteran that can be a mentor in the bullpen, not some stud closer. Kimbrel or Venters should compete for the job in ST. I think the bullpen breaks down like this:

CL – Kimbrel
SU – Venters
SU – RH Veteran
MR – Moylan
MR – O’Flaherty
MR – Gearrin/Marek
LR – Martinez/Redmond/Beachy

I could also see us non-tendering Moylan because of his declining stats, and I could see us trading O’Flaherty and using Dunn as our LOOGY. The Braves have a good number of young, cost-controlled relievers.

4 years 11 months ago

The Yankees will “bid aggressively” on Crawford. In other words, they will once again pay twice as much as anyone else can and buy another championship. Nah, nothing’s wrong with baseball.

EvilEmpireMember
4 years 11 months ago

Sounds like someone needs a hug or a Pirates fan.

4 years 11 months ago

Sounds like someone’s a little upset that everyone else hates his team. Lol. Or are you one of those people who’s a Yankee fan because he’s so inadequate in every other way? Emphasis on inadequate.

Vmmercan
4 years 11 months ago

As opposed to being so filled with hate for a sports team you feel the need to spill baseless rage on an internet blog?

Yeah, very adequate.

AmericanMovieFan
4 years 11 months ago

If the Yankees offered Carl Crawford twice as much as anybody else he’d make at least $30MM a year. I think someone is just bitter.

johnsilver
4 years 11 months ago

I don’t see why Sabathia can’t hold on and get that last 144 games for 300 wins. 30 years old, still dominant, 5 years left under contract with a team that averages mid 90 wins every year and a pitcher at the top of his game.

myname_989
4 years 11 months ago

He’d need more than 28 wins a year to do that under his current contract. Lol

johnsilver
4 years 11 months ago

Not under his current contract of course.. Not even with NYY will he average 20+ wins, but figure he will not be loco enough to opt out and spend the next 5 years with them, average 18+ wins over the course and still pitch until at least the age of 40.

Weight on some pitchers has not been a problem. Woodie Fryman, Clemens, some carry it well.

moonraker45
4 years 11 months ago

I personally think, despite age that doc halladay will end up closer to 300 then cc if not actually hitting it..

CC is good dont get me wrong, but i get the feeling doc’s style of pitching will age better then cc’s making him more successful in his later years.

johnsilver
4 years 11 months ago

Thing about Doc is all those hard, hard innings he has piled up though you know? I know pitchers used to throw 15-20 complete games every season (or the good ones did) and I remember those good old days also, but Doc is the only guy throwing 8-10 CG’s for the last few years and that wear and tear, innings pitched and then, the wins he may have gotten if a couple of those years the Jays were a little bit better thrown in (not knocking them) and there has to be some doubt if that arm of his will just go out. Sabathia even does not have that much wear on his arm and he is the next “horse” down from good old Doc and trails by a mile.

33YO, 168W.. Could happen, if he stays on Philly, or another top team, they stay competitive like that and he stays healthy, but he would really have to maintain his game being 3 years behind Sabathia and only 8 wins ahead.

Bender44
4 years 11 months ago

250’s more likely for both Halladay and Sabathia. I dunno know if any pitcher can get to 300 anymore, unless they’re like Moyer and just won’t give up the ghost. Too much bullpen specialization these days. In the future it might be hard for a starter to get 300 decisions total (wins and losses combined).

moonraker45
4 years 11 months ago

The thing about Doc is, and i know this first hand. He takes his health and shape very seriously and is definitely one of the hardest workers in baseball. He also has built his arm endurance up to be able to withstand the heavy work load. Pitchers in japan throw 3 times as many pitches as pitchers here but have far less injuries. Why? because babying an arm and limiting its work load is sometimes as counterproductive as it is beneficial.

I mean realistically, he’s 33 years old and has pitched 7 220+ innings, 57 complete games. By all accounts he should have already went down with an injury, but hasn’t in fact he’s never really had a serious arm issue.

Doc is a throw back pitcher pure and simple. Of course I could be wrong, injuries are unpredictable, but based on his work ethic and arm endurance, I can envision doc being successful in to his late 30’s

johnsilver
4 years 11 months ago

Or the ability to just hang on and to want to hang on after the “stuff” has left and remain as a swing man on a team.

One of my all time favorite pitchers that never one 300 games and probably would have, but had the misfortune of playing for horrific teams throughout virtually his entire 25 year career (except a short time near end when his stuff was about gone) is Jim Kaat and he still had a 283-237 Lifetime record, despite playing for mostly horrid teams over the course of his career.

Now it is doubtful that someone like Sabathia and Doc will end up playing for awful teams like Kaat did, since they can pretty much control whom they will play with now and not get stuck with mostly awful teams for the most part.

But does give a good example of what could happen if either of these pitchers decides over the course of their careers to chase dollars rather than staying with a winner. I would say “good bye” to any chance of 300 wins for either if they left a team that is always in the hunt on a year by year basis.

johnsilver
4 years 11 months ago

Or the ability to just hang on and to want to hang on after the “stuff” has left and remain as a swing man on a team.

One of my all time favorite pitchers that never one 300 games and probably would have, but had the misfortune of playing for horrific teams throughout virtually his entire 25 year career (except a short time near end when his stuff was about gone) is Jim Kaat and he still had a 283-237 Lifetime record, despite playing for mostly horrid teams over the course of his career.

Now it is doubtful that someone like Sabathia and Doc will end up playing for awful teams like Kaat did, since they can pretty much control whom they will play with now and not get stuck with mostly awful teams for the most part.

But does give a good example of what could happen if either of these pitchers decides over the course of their careers to chase dollars rather than staying with a winner. I would say “good bye” to any chance of 300 wins for either if they left a team that is always in the hunt on a year by year basis.

moonraker45
4 years 11 months ago

The thing about Doc is, and i know this first hand. He takes his health and shape very seriously and is definitely one of the hardest workers in baseball. He also has built his arm endurance up to be able to withstand the heavy work load. Pitchers in japan throw 3 times as many pitches as pitchers here but have far less injuries. Why? because babying an arm and limiting its work load is sometimes as counterproductive as it is beneficial.

I mean realistically, he’s 33 years old and has pitched 7 220+ innings, 57 complete games. By all accounts he should have already went down with an injury, but hasn’t in fact he’s never really had a serious arm issue.

Doc is a throw back pitcher pure and simple. Of course I could be wrong, injuries are unpredictable, but based on his work ethic and arm endurance, I can envision doc being successful in to his late 30’s

johnsilver
4 years 11 months ago

Thing about Doc is all those hard, hard innings he has piled up though you know? I know pitchers used to throw 15-20 complete games every season (or the good ones did) and I remember those good old days also, but Doc is the only guy throwing 8-10 CG’s for the last few years and that wear and tear, innings pitched and then, the wins he may have gotten if a couple of those years the Jays were a little bit better thrown in (not knocking them) and there has to be some doubt if that arm of his will just go out. Sabathia even does not have that much wear on his arm and he is the next “horse” down from good old Doc and trails by a mile.

33YO, 168W.. Could happen, if he stays on Philly, or another top team, they stay competitive like that and he stays healthy, but he would really have to maintain his game being 3 years behind Sabathia and only 8 wins ahead.

Guest
4 years 11 months ago

You know what makes baseball so good? Having 2-3 teams win 90 games and not make the playoffs. Having 8 teams battle it out over a month period..
Whats he gonna do? Cut the season down, then reincorporate those games into a new playoff series? Baseball doesn’t need any more problems.
The only reason he would do it is for money. The Red Sox and Yanks making the playoffs year would make Selig even richer.

moonraker45
4 years 11 months ago

says the fan of the team who won their division with 84 wins.

Guest
4 years 11 months ago

What the hell does that have to do with anything? The Cards won 83 games and won the world series. That’s the point.

4 years 11 months ago

***89 Wins***

4 years 11 months ago

***89 Wins***

Guest
4 years 11 months ago

What the hell does that have to do with anything? The Cards won 83 games and won the world series. That’s the point.

Backup_Slider
4 years 11 months ago

A great (esp. to Dodger fans) example of that sort of thing occurred during pre-wild-card LCS-and-WS-only era when the 1993 Giants went 103-59 but missed the postseason because their NL West divisional foe the Braves went 104-58. In the pre-LCS WS-only era, I am sure there are even more extreme examples.

Backup_Slider
4 years 11 months ago

If I were one of the twelve thousand or so Blue Jay or Oriole fans, I’d be asking Bud to do away with divisions entirely and just have 2 leagues (preferably each with 15 teams) and let the teams with the 4 best records in each league advance to the postseason. Basically, adopt the 1901-1968 MLB system, but allow the teams with the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best records into the postseason. This would all but eliminate the problem of a division winner with a .500ish winning percentage getting an invitation to the postseason (that means you, 2006 WS champion Cardinals, 2005 Padres, etc.) and encourage all teams in each league to try and win as many games as possible.

Raylan Givens' Stetson
4 years 11 months ago

As much as I would like the number of teams in each league (as well as each division) to be the same, it just can’t be done with odd numbers. You would always have some team with a day off and the entire schedule would be a disaster.

Backup_Slider
4 years 11 months ago

As a polite follow-up, are you typing that it’s mathematically impossible to build a schedule with 15 teams in each league even if you allowed full-season inter-league play?

4 years 11 months ago

I always liked that idea. Move a team from the NL to AL, and just have an interleague series always going on. It slightly devalues the DH, too.

jubeininja69
4 years 11 months ago

nah. baseball was originally played without a DH and still is today. the DH was made up becuase Charles finley wanted to do away with strategy and sell fans on additional home runs. it was added to sell more tickets on offense at the expense of taking away strategy and making the role of the manager almost nothing

plus the NL is older and i think that’s why they gained and extra team.

baseball without the DH is pure baseball the way it’s meant to be played.

4 years 11 months ago

I always liked that idea. Move a team from the NL to AL, and just have an interleague series always going on. It slightly devalues the DH, too.

myname_989
4 years 11 months ago

The MLB playoffs don’t need MUCH tinkering, but they are flawed. I think it all comes down to the standing during the regular season, starting with the divisions in each league, which are completely illogical. Teams build their rosters to have the best record. Therefore, it’s complete BS that teams with better records than those actually making the playoffs are being left out. The 2008 season is the perfect example.

The Cubs, Phillies, and Dodgers won their divisions, and the Dodgers were the Wild Card in the NL, and the Angels, Rays, and White Sox won their divisions, with the Red Sox taking the Wild Card in the AL. The playoffs would shape up like this:

Phillies def. Brewers
Dodgers def. Cubs
Red Sox def. Angels
Rays def. White Sox
___
Philles def. Dodgers
Rays def. Red Sox
___
Phillies def. Rays

Now what those playoffs do not show is that there were teams that made the playoffs, that by all means, should have been left out. The fact that the Dodgers, who were 84 – 78, over the Mets (89 – 73), Marlins (84 – 77), Astros (86 – 75), and Cardinals (86 – 76), is ridiculous. That’s four teams with better records than the Dodgers. The Mets, by all rights, SHOULD have made the playoffs, since their record was better than the Dodgers. That would have made the NL playoff a different story.

Cubs vs. Mets
Phillies vs. Brewers

We can go on to assume that the Phillies would have defeated the Brewers… but it was a complete upset that the Dodgers beat the Cubs in 2008! Who knows that the series would have gone the same way against the Mets. Who says that the Phillies would have defeated the Mets in the NL Championship series? Good teams were left out because the system is FLAWED.

How do you fix this? I say go back to the old school days. Remove the divisions and play the schedule out more evenly amongst your league. The teams with the top four records in each league make the playoffs, period. No wild card, no extra wild card. Good old fashioned, may the best team win.

4 years 11 months ago

A division winner can’t take the Wild Card. Milwaukee was 90-72, and won the Wild Card. That system actually really isn’t flawed. What worries me is that Selig is trying to extend the playoffs, like making another round. That series would take too long, and the WS would reach deep into November by their standards, and who knows, weather conditions can screw the whole thing up. The divisions and wild-cards are fine, Selig just needs to expand instant replay in the POSTSEASON. Regular season of course has room for mistakes or flops… But the postseason is an entirely different story.

DougieJ58
4 years 11 months ago

The Season can have flops? What happens whe a bad call during the season causes a team to get a win the did not earn? Teams may get a win or two because of a flop that is fine with you? It happened this year in a Phillies, Marlins game. Umpire Davidson made a very bad call, that call changed the amount of the lead of a Division leader. You either have replays or not. What about the Perfect Game that was not given to the Pitcher that earned it? MLB is very flawed, a 150 game season would allow for an extra Wild Card. All games are important not just the Post Season.

Backup_Slider
4 years 11 months ago

While you’re right that a division winner can’t take the Wild Card, there was one Wild Card where the organization falsely claims the Wild Card to be a division winner – the 2001 Cardinals. If you visit their baseball-reference team history page you’ll notice that while on the one hand they tied the Astros for 1st in the NL Central they were officially the 2nd place team in the division (and Wild Card) per MLB records because the Astros won the season series. However, if you go to new Busch Stadium (or watch closely on the tube) they have signage/banners all over their stadium claiming to be 2001 NL Central division champions. The 2000 Mariners, 2005 Red Sox, and 2006 Dodgers were also deemed 2nd place teams and the Wild Card via the same exact scenario, yet, unlike the Cardinals, none of those 3 franchises purport themselves to be division champions for that season. You’d think the Cardinals organization would be satisfied enough with winning 10 World Series that they wouldn’t see to the need to inflate their total of measly division titles, eh?

Backup_Slider
4 years 11 months ago

While you’re right that a division winner can’t take the Wild Card, there was one Wild Card where the organization falsely claims the Wild Card to be a division winner – the 2001 Cardinals. If you visit their baseball-reference team history page you’ll notice that while on the one hand they tied the Astros for 1st in the NL Central they were officially the 2nd place team in the division (and Wild Card) per MLB records because the Astros won the season series. However, if you go to new Busch Stadium (or watch closely on the tube) they have signage/banners all over their stadium claiming to be 2001 NL Central division champions. The 2000 Mariners, 2005 Red Sox, and 2006 Dodgers were also deemed 2nd place teams and the Wild Card via the same exact scenario, yet, unlike the Cardinals, none of those 3 franchises purport themselves to be division champions for that season. You’d think the Cardinals organization would be satisfied enough with winning 10 World Series that they wouldn’t see to the need to inflate their total of measly division titles, eh?

myname_989
4 years 11 months ago

Where did I say anything about a team that wins their division also winning the Wild Card? That makes no sense. Lol. It’s not that the Brewers weren’t deserving of winning the Wild Card, since they had one of the best records in the NL, but the fact that the Dodgers WEREN’T deserving of winning their division with that mediocre record. My point was something like that could have completely changed the complexion of the playoffs, which is why I called for change.

myname_989
4 years 11 months ago

Where did I say anything about a team that wins their division also winning the Wild Card? That makes no sense. Lol. It’s not that the Brewers weren’t deserving of winning the Wild Card, since they had one of the best records in the NL, but the fact that the Dodgers WEREN’T deserving of winning their division with that mediocre record. My point was something like that could have completely changed the complexion of the playoffs, which is why I called for change.

jubeininja69
4 years 11 months ago

i hope they at least fix interleague play scheduling because it’s unbalanced and it takes games away from playing your own league.as for teams with worse records getting in, that’s the playoff system. the point of the playoffs is to have the best representative from each region/division of the country get to compete for the national championship. if you didn’t win your division, you were not the best representative of your region. there is a spot in the playoffs reserved for each region/division winner. teams that didn’t win their divisions still have a second chance with the wild card. that’s why i like it. it gives another team who isn’t the division winner a chance to get in and it makes up for the divisions.

hawkny1
4 years 11 months ago

Must be Stark’s “source” on Beltre read the backside of Adrian’s baseball card… and decided to speculate from there. Beltre likes Boston. The Red Sox organization and the fans who watch NESN with any regularity appreciate what he can do on the field and with the bat. IMHO, the odds are 75:25 in favor of Beltre playing 3B in a Red Sox uniform on opening day, in April, 2011

NorCalDodgersFan
4 years 11 months ago

You can tell the Dodgers want a player like Carl Crawford. They traded Pierre and didn’t resign Hudson, which meant their only solid leadoff hitter was the injury-prone Rafael Furcal. Then, after spending 2 years trying to get rid of Juan Pierre, they went and traded for Scott Podsednik, whom some people on these forums have referred to as “Juan Pierre lite.” It’s pretty clear the Dodgers want a leadoff guy but just haven’t had good luck getting a solid, dependable one. If they have the money, they should fight tooth and nail to get Crawford to bat 1st in their 2010 lineup.

lakersdodgersyankees4life
4 years 11 months ago

and where does Furcal hit? He is not a good #2 hitter.

If we were going to get a big OF, Id rather it be Werth. One, we have a good 1-2 with Furcal and Martin. Furcal still has great speed and Martin gets on base at a great clip. What we need is power.

One other thing, Crawford will not age as well as Werth. The reason is speed usually declines faster. He relies on speed mainly. Werth seems to be a more complete bat…

4 years 11 months ago

Bat speed declines faster than foot speed my friend…

lakersdodgersyankees4life
4 years 11 months ago

and where does Furcal hit? He is not a good #2 hitter.

If we were going to get a big OF, Id rather it be Werth. One, we have a good 1-2 with Furcal and Martin. Furcal still has great speed and Martin gets on base at a great clip. What we need is power.

One other thing, Crawford will not age as well as Werth. The reason is speed usually declines faster. He relies on speed mainly. Werth seems to be a more complete bat…

4 years 11 months ago

Crawford hates leading off so take that out of the equation. In ffact put into the equation that LA will not be spending much anytime soon either.

NorCalDodgersFan
4 years 11 months ago

You’re probably right about the money not being there, but I’m almost positive whatever team signs Crawford will want him as a lead-off guy. I know the Rays have been putting him in the #3 spot of late, but that’s not usually where a base-stealing machine with a batting average over .300 but a slugging percentage under .500 bats.

jwredsox
4 years 11 months ago

Crawford pretty much won’t lead off. He hates it. He will be signed as a #2 guy.

jwredsox
4 years 11 months ago

Crawford pretty much won’t lead off. He hates it. He will be signed as a #2 guy.

4 years 11 months ago

Crawford hates leading off so take that out of the equation. In ffact put into the equation that LA will not be spending much anytime soon either.

4 years 11 months ago

a few things first anyone who takes the mlb that serious needs help were all just fans fighting over guys who are lucky enough to make money and get to actually receive credit for winning fans however are puppets.as for some things i think galaragga would have wanted replay when he had that play with donald.replay should be in regular season on plays that would be a part of history as a perfect game would.i dont see crawford staying in the AL he fits more with the NL style where he would be appreciated.a few tweaks need to occur teams should be able to trade draft picks like they do in the nfl and nba.there should be some restrictions on how much a team can spend not a salary cap but more of a salary floor its pathetic an owner would own a team and do nothing to help and I know many have the money.I hope they take away the divisons cuz playing a team 18 times a year is to much sorry i get bored of seeing the same matchups wish they would make it so the best 4 teams in each division play agianst each other.put a team like the phillies or pirates both are in pennslyvania in the AL to even it out and have the top 4 teams in the playoffs 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3.those are just my opinions im bored of the people who only talk about there team like there the ones who are getting anything from them

jubeininja69
4 years 11 months ago

divisions are needed because it sets up the playoffs and reduces the amount of travel teams would have to make.

4 years 11 months ago

a few things first anyone who takes the mlb that serious needs help were all just fans fighting over guys who are lucky enough to make money and get to actually receive credit for winning fans however are puppets.as for some things i think galaragga would have wanted replay when he had that play with donald.replay should be in regular season on plays that would be a part of history as a perfect game would.i dont see crawford staying in the AL he fits more with the NL style where he would be appreciated.a few tweaks need to occur teams should be able to trade draft picks like they do in the nfl and nba.there should be some restrictions on how much a team can spend not a salary cap but more of a salary floor its pathetic an owner would own a team and do nothing to help and I know many have the money.I hope they take away the divisons cuz playing a team 18 times a year is to much sorry i get bored of seeing the same matchups wish they would make it so the best 4 teams in each division play agianst each other.put a team like the phillies or pirates both are in pennslyvania in the AL to even it out and have the top 4 teams in the playoffs 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3.those are just my opinions im bored of the people who only talk about there team like there the ones who are getting anything from them

DougieJ58
4 years 11 months ago

First, eliminate the DH and play real Baseball in both Leagues. Next MLB Season 150 games, Keep same Divisions, Wild Card Team, Wild Card Teams play a 3 wins out of 5 Series games while the Division winners rest. Winning Wild Card plays team with best record in which ever Division. Remaining Championship Series 4 wins out of seven. World Series could return to 5 out of 9 that it once was, doing this would eliminate the three man Pitching Rotation so the most well rounded team should win.

DougieJ58
4 years 11 months ago

First, eliminate the DH and play real Baseball in both Leagues. Next MLB Season 150 games, Keep same Divisions, Wild Card Team, Wild Card Teams play a 3 wins out of 5 Series games while the Division winners rest. Winning Wild Card plays team with best record in which ever Division. Remaining Championship Series 4 wins out of seven. World Series could return to 5 out of 9 that it once was, doing this would eliminate the three man Pitching Rotation so the most well rounded team should win.

Just_MLB
4 years 11 months ago

Three baseball people who are all acquainted with Joe Torre say the Dodgers manager would like to manage the Mets next year, but they don’t think it’ll happen.

in other words….Three baseball people who are all acquainted with Joe Torre say the Dodgers manager would like to make 10 million dollars a year for the next 3 years and appear in regina carpet cleaner commercials.

Just_MLB
4 years 11 months ago

Three baseball people who are all acquainted with Joe Torre say the Dodgers manager would like to manage the Mets next year, but they don’t think it’ll happen.

in other words….Three baseball people who are all acquainted with Joe Torre say the Dodgers manager would like to make 10 million dollars a year for the next 3 years and appear in regina carpet cleaner commercials.

0bsessions
4 years 11 months ago

More people need to look at this from a business perspective:

Having just the top four teams in each league go is potentially disasterous for television ratings. If that were the current format and the postseason started today, more than half of the postseason teams could be from the East Coast (Barring a one game playoff). As long as the Yanks or Red Sox make the playoffs, you’re going to get a bunch of the more casual viewers, but if you don’t have enough teams from other markets competing, you eliminate the potential revenue from those markets.

As a Red Sox fan, I’ll admit it sucks knowing my team’s going to miss the playoffs while other teams with worse records could be making it in (It sucked in ’06 seeing a team with less wins take the WS while we sat at home with a better regular season record), but them’s the breaks.

jubeininja69
4 years 11 months ago

the red sox had plenty of chances with the yankees and rays to get it done. its too bad they had injuries and didn’t play well enough against them.as for teams with worse records getting in, that’s the playoff system. the point of the playoffs is to have the best representative from each region/division of the country get to compete for the championship. that’s why you have division winners. the red sox wasn’t the best in their division and the wild card either.

0bsessions
4 years 11 months ago

More people need to look at this from a business perspective:

Having just the top four teams in each league go is potentially disasterous for television ratings. If that were the current format and the postseason started today, more than half of the postseason teams could be from the East Coast (Barring a one game playoff). As long as the Yanks or Red Sox make the playoffs, you’re going to get a bunch of the more casual viewers, but if you don’t have enough teams from other markets competing, you eliminate the potential revenue from those markets.

As a Red Sox fan, I’ll admit it sucks knowing my team’s going to miss the playoffs while other teams with worse records could be making it in (It sucked in ’06 seeing a team with less wins take the WS while we sat at home with a better regular season record), but them’s the breaks.

Braun4Pres
4 years 11 months ago

All right, just my two cents, coming from a fan clearly stuck with a team who doesn’t “Compete” very often. This 150 Reg. Season talk is garbage. Shortening the regular season robs the fans of less talented/worse coached teams of seeing say, the Brewers as much as possible. I know it would make everyone happy every team was in the playoffs every year, and like in Kindergarten, “Everyone wins” but that’s what this regular season format is for. 162 Games to “Playoff” against any team thrown at you during that time, prove yourself as a legitimate team as this system defines it, or go home. I for one am pretty content with the system, because seeing as the Crew’ and others most likely will only be regular season teams for the forseeable future, I want the chance to watch the guys I pay my hard earned money to see, as many times as possible. Also, my second fav. team is in fact the Bo Sox, followed closely by the Braves, so I have a team in every walk of light, and I can tell you, Baseball is the last great sport we have, don’t F**k it up.

moonraker45
4 years 11 months ago

lol so what your saying you rather see a non playoff team an extra 12 times, rather then perhaps that same team being in the hunt for the second wild card spot.

sound reasoning let me tell you

Braun4Pres
4 years 11 months ago

Bro, I’m not sure you understand what I’m saying. What I am saying is I am a BREWERS FAN. I love all of baseball, don’t get me wrong, but nobody will ever tell me that seeing the Brewers 12 more times isn’t “worth” as much as seeing, say the Padres or Giants this year. Honestly, I don’t care one way or the other for either of them. I’m just saying I’ll watch whatever baseball is on, but if I have the choice, and believe me, being a displaced Brewer Fan, it’s tough, I want to see them every oppurtunity I can. I’m not a front runner, so I’m stuck with my team being a middle of the pack kind of team, and I’m ok with that for now. We are making strides, but I wouldn’t ever tell a Pirates fan, hey your last 12 games aren’t important to me, so we are going to dump them for some other crying team/fan base. That is complete garbage.
And don’t question my reasoning, I want to watch MY TEAM. You have your team, and I am fine with that. Wait until your team blows up, and your back to 60 wins a season, then tell me if the last 12 games are worth something.

moonraker45
4 years 11 months ago

lol so what your saying you rather see a non playoff team an extra 12 times, rather then perhaps that same team being in the hunt for the second wild card spot.

sound reasoning let me tell you

Braun4Pres
4 years 11 months ago

All right, just my two cents, coming from a fan clearly stuck with a team who doesn’t “Compete” very often. This 150 Reg. Season talk is garbage. Shortening the regular season robs the fans of less talented/worse coached teams of seeing say, the Brewers as much as possible. I know it would make everyone happy every team was in the playoffs every year, and like in Kindergarten, “Everyone wins” but that’s what this regular season format is for. 162 Games to “Playoff” against any team thrown at you during that time, prove yourself as a legitimate team as this system defines it, or go home. I for one am pretty content with the system, because seeing as the Crew’ and others most likely will only be regular season teams for the forseeable future, I want the chance to watch the guys I pay my hard earned money to see, as many times as possible. Also, my second fav. team is in fact the Bo Sox, followed closely by the Braves, so I have a team in every walk of light, and I can tell you, Baseball is the last great sport we have, don’t F**k it up.

CitizenSnips
4 years 11 months ago

Or just eliminate the wild card altogether and have teams with the 4 best records duke it out. How fair is it that the Rangers advance with a little under 90 wins but the Sox lose out of merely the Wild Card by having about the same record? Keep the Division Winners but let the W-L records determine the playoff contenders regardless of division.

4 years 11 months ago

I feel that there is a potential here for something good if it is done correctly. However it wont be done correctly so meh.

MLB would improve its product if they expanded the playoffs, but shortened the regular season in doing so by 10 or 20 games. The teams who could not field a play off team get shorted that many games worth of ticket sales and concessions. How you shorten can be done by eliminating inter-league, or by skipping play with one of the other divisions within the league for the season, or just play a balanced schedule within the league, doesn’t matter. What matters is after 9/1, all the baseball would be better than average baseball, and the Orioles, Royals, and Pirates would all have an incentive to spend the revenue sharing money on talent instead of taking profit.

I realize that this would never happen, but it would cause the underspending teams to have to put some money into their payrolls in order to compete for one of the second season spots. That would also take the legs out from under the Yankees and Red Sox when it comes to revenue sharing and salary cap debates as well.

Pawsdeep
4 years 11 months ago

I say add two wild cards in each league and do it like football–best two teams get a bye. I know we all love october baseball so why not add in an extra series? All you would have to do is shorten the season by 8 games or so and it would bring a ton of new revenue to the sport and also make the playoff stretch more exciting for half of the teams in baseball. It would give fans in so many areas a reason to keep coming to the games down the stretch

myname_989
4 years 11 months ago

The Phillies should be voting for Carl Crawford to lower Jayson’s value! Lol

myname_989
4 years 11 months ago

Gingivitis. Close enough. Hahahaha!

Slopeboy
4 years 11 months ago

I think it’s commercials.

O971
4 years 11 months ago

He never had the Yankees offense behind him. Although the 2001 Indians were close.

Slopeboy
4 years 11 months ago

Gee, not only are you somewhat estute,but articulate too! I happen to have had the opportunity to see Sabathia last month at a charity function for about 45 minutes and was immpressed with the fact that he NOT fat as he is a BIG Man. He was in civilian clothes and that’s what was striking about him. Granted he would not look great in Speedos, but believe me he’s not a Roly-Poly, Pillsbury Doughboy ype body. He’s large but not soft. Next time you see him in the NY uniform, check and see that it is deliberately baggy, similar to Manny Ramirez’s uniform.

Slopeboy
4 years 11 months ago

Funny thing is I wasn’t too sure of the spelling either, it just didn’t look right. So before posting, I got confirmation of the spelling from my 13 yr old. LOL

foxtown
4 years 11 months ago

So he’s not Prince Fielder’s twin?

CitizenSnips
4 years 11 months ago

“you must be a red sox fan.”

Nope. Just a fan of common sense. It’s a damn shame that you can have a mediocre team win a bad division and make it into the playoffs yet a better team with more wins and superior performance can miss the Wild Card to a strong division rival. And I’m not even talking the AL East here because the Dodgers won the NL West with 84 wins two years ago despite four teams sporting better records, three of which didn’t make it into the playoffs. Just because the Yanks, Sox and Rays have been hot for a few years doesn’t mean it’ll always be that way. What does salary cap have to do with the Rays anyways?

4 years 11 months ago

I guess the reason we’re still talking about his upside is that he mainly only shows it in contract years. I know the contract year bump has been pretty much debunked but in 2 out of his 3 contract years he’s gone off, and last year he fought injuries and Safeco. No doubt that’s why he took a one year deal in Boston to rebuild his value. I’m not saying he’s a great contract year player on purpose but the evidence is building. It may have been mostly debunked league wide but who’s to say that the occasional player doesn’t play better, or in this case much better, when he’s playing for his next deal?

Slopeboy
4 years 11 months ago

I really try to refrain from making fun of these guys physical attributes, because they do what I can only dream of doing. That being said, Fielder could past for the Pillsbury Doughboy.

NorCalDodgersFan
4 years 11 months ago

I think we should change it back to each league being 1/2 East Division, 1/2 West Division, except now, the Division Series would be the 2nd place team in the East playing the 1st place teach in the West, and vice-versa. The Championship series would be the same: both DS winners competing for the pennant and advancing to the World Series. Tigers and Indians fans probably wouldn’t like that because it would mean their teams would be in the same division with the Yankees, Rays and BoSox…but that’s not any different from how Jays and Orioles fans feel right now. No matter what, it will never be 100% fair, but if it’s the top 2 teams in 4 divisions (East & West, NL & AL), all the races will stay competitive and interesting.Two things I’m absolutely not a fan of: adding more Wild Card teams (NBA, NHL), or splitting the leagues into four divisions (NFL). That would mean a longer post-season, which would just be obnoxious.

NorCalDodgersFan
4 years 11 months ago

I think we should change it back to each league being 1/2 East Division, 1/2 West Division, except now, the Division Series would be the 2nd place team in the East playing the 1st place teach in the West, and vice-versa. The Championship series would be the same: both DS winners competing for the pennant and advancing to the World Series. Tigers and Indians fans probably wouldn’t like that because it would mean their teams would be in the same division with the Yankees, Rays and BoSox…but that’s not any different from how Jays and Orioles fans feel right now. No matter what, it will never be 100% fair, but if it’s the top 2 teams in 4 divisions (East & West, NL & AL), all the races will stay competitive and interesting.Two things I’m absolutely not a fan of: adding more Wild Card teams (NBA, NHL), or splitting the leagues into four divisions (NFL). That would mean a longer post-season, which would just be obnoxious.

Vmmercan
4 years 11 months ago

What does that have to do with anything? So because a bunch of other people have hatred for the Yankees spending on revenue that makes you right for spewing some nonsense you know very little about?

And “K thanks”?

What are you, a 15 year old girl? Why don’t you finish this up with a Billy Madison quote and a “first!” on the next new post while you’re at it.

Vmmercan
4 years 11 months ago

What does that have to do with anything? So because a bunch of other people have hatred for the Yankees spending on revenue that makes you right for spewing some nonsense you know very little about?

And “K thanks”?

What are you, a 15 year old girl? Why don’t you finish this up with a Billy Madison quote and a “first!” on the next new post while you’re at it.

4 years 11 months ago

Go ahead and tell me how it’s a subject I know very little about. No, really. Go ahead and explain to me, you informed citizen you, how the Yankees haven’t bought WS championships. LOL. Proceed.

4 years 11 months ago

Go ahead and tell me how it’s a subject I know very little about. No, really. Go ahead and explain to me, you informed citizen you, how the Yankees haven’t bought WS championships. LOL. Proceed.

4 years 11 months ago

Because it’s impossible to… People realize that spending money on FA market doesen’t always work out, and it’s a never guaranteed to win a championship… Which explains why the Yankees drafted 5 out of the 9 position players that started in the WS last year, development and scouting, believe it or not, has been a huge part of the Yanks winning titles. Who else drafted the Core Five, now Four?

4 years 11 months ago

Because it’s impossible to… People realize that spending money on FA market doesen’t always work out, and it’s a never guaranteed to win a championship… Which explains why the Yankees drafted 5 out of the 9 position players that started in the WS last year, development and scouting, believe it or not, has been a huge part of the Yanks winning titles. Who else drafted the Core Five, now Four?

4 years 11 months ago

Henry, you simpleton. Let me explain this to you. The Yankees are as successful as they are because they are able to buy their way into the final eight every time, and when you can do that, you stumble into a few championships every now and again. That make sense to you? Goodness, you people never fail to embarrass yourselves with these nonsense excuses for the Yankees’ actions. And please stop all that crap about drafting. EVERY TEAM DRAFTS.

4 years 11 months ago

Henry, you simpleton. Let me explain this to you. The Yankees are as successful as they are because they are able to buy their way into the final eight every time, and when you can do that, you stumble into a few championships every now and again. That make sense to you? Goodness, you people never fail to embarrass yourselves with these nonsense excuses for the Yankees’ actions. And please stop all that crap about drafting. EVERY TEAM DRAFTS.

johnsilver
4 years 11 months ago

Lets be a bit careful here now. All but one are from the mid 90’s draft I am pretty sure.

Edit. Apologies. 2. Cano and Gardner.

johnsilver
4 years 11 months ago

Lets be a bit careful here now. All but one are from the mid 90’s draft I am pretty sure.

Edit. Apologies. 2. Cano and Gardner.

Slopeboy
4 years 11 months ago

Wrong again!! I’m a long distance runner so weight has never been a problem, and that’s why I refrain from making fun of ‘porkers’ as you call it. You haven’t gotten anything right on this blog tonight, either you’re in a slump or you’re just way over your head. Call it a night and reduce your embarrassment.

Slopeboy
4 years 11 months ago

Wrong again!! I’m a long distance runner so weight has never been a problem, and that’s why I refrain from making fun of ‘porkers’ as you call it. You haven’t gotten anything right on this blog tonight, either you’re in a slump or you’re just way over your head. Call it a night and reduce your embarrassment.

4 years 11 months ago

Long distance runner. Sure. It’s pretty easy to say untrue stuff about yourself over the internet. Lol

Slopeboy
4 years 11 months ago

Yes, it’s easy to say untrue stuff on the internet. But not as easy as in your case, to post inane and cruel rants and try and to pass them along as meaningful opinions.