Quick Hits: Young, Ortiz, Blue Jays, Chicago Teams

Congratulations to Jack Gillis, Jim Howard, Terry Reynolds and Mike Toomey on their induction into the Professional Baseball Scouts Hall of Fame!  The four long-time scouts will be inducted individually during separate ceremonies through August.

Some news items…

  • The Rockies and Rangers were close enough on a Michael Young trade package earlier this winter that a Colorado player who would've gone to Texas, Eric Young Jr., was asked to take a physical, reports Tracy Ringolsby of FOXSports.com.  Texas was concerned by the stress fracture that sidelined Young Jr. for half of last season and the two sides couldn't settle on a deal.
  • With Vladimir Guerrero struggling to find a contract, FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal wonders if a similar fate awaits David Ortiz in next winter's free agent market.
  • The Blue Jays' decision to start John Buck over prospect J.P. Arencibia in August and September of last season was an organizational call, Alex Anthopoulos tells MLB.com's Gregor Chisholm.  The Jays GM said he promised Buck an everyday job if he signed with Toronto, and Anthopoulos wanted to stand by his agreement.  "When we give our word to someone … that's part of our brand," Anthopoulos said. "When I'm negotiating with an agent or I'm trying to recruit a player, and we have to tell them something, whether it's good or bad news, they know that we're going to honor our word and we're going to be straight shooters."
  • Bruce Levine of ESPN Chicago discussed several Cubs and White Sox topics in a chat with fans.
  • Mychael Urban of CSNBayArea.com gives his list of the offseason's biggest winners and losers.  I'm not sure if I agree with Urban's designation of Manny Ramirez as the biggest individual "loser" this winter — he took a big pay cut, but the Rays should still be a contending team.


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48 Comments on "Quick Hits: Young, Ortiz, Blue Jays, Chicago Teams"


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renegade24
4 years 5 months ago

Wow.. so not everything was Cito’s fault?

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4 years 5 months ago

No, it was Cito’s fault. This explanation sounds much better though. so let’s all just pretend it’s actually true.

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JKGocha
4 years 5 months ago

AA is the best! lol what else does Prince Fielder want!! just come to toronto!

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

hes born in Ontario too… Ontario California that is.

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BlueJaysFTW
4 years 5 months ago

You’re stupid… very stupid that is.

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

I think Tracy Ringolsby is on something.

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mkorpal
4 years 5 months ago

No, he is an old senile man. Eric Young tweeted a few hours later that his physical was a routine off season thing unrelated to any trade.

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

That may be it too!

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The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 5 months ago

Maybe his cowboy hat is too tight and cutting blood circulation to his head

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

Maybe that’s it.

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wickedkevin
4 years 5 months ago

It’s hard to argue a 90% pay cut.

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Guest 649
4 years 5 months ago

I have a feeling the Jays are going to make a couple splashes in the next couple years… First Feilder, Then papelbon… Run a line-up of:
C (Arencibia – Molina)
1B (Feilder – Lind[DH])
2B (Hill)
SS (Escobar)
3B (Lawrie)
LF (Snider)
CF (Davis)
RF (Bautista)

Morrow
Romero
Cecil
Drabek
McGowan/Litch/etc.

Re-constructed bull-pen with papelbon closing…

That is a pretty good line-up also considering we have a few up and coming rookies (Hechavaria, Gose, etc)

Jays are gonna be one of the best teams in 2013-2014!

Go Jays!

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Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 5 months ago

First off, I’d rather not touch Fielder. To quote The Simpsons “hey buddy, I got a movie for ya: A Fridge Too Far!” The dude’s body just won’t age well.

Second, I dunno what year this line-up is in, but I’m thinking yer 2013/2014 time table. Davis won’t be around then. I’d rather have Mastroianni in CF if Gose busts. Davis just can’t take a walk.

Third, you seem to have forgotten Stewart completely. Forget Papelbon and try McGowan in the pen to relieve his golden yet currently busted arm, and stick Stewart in the rotation.

Fourth, I’m having a hard time believing Bautista will be a Blue Jay by then. Don’t know what it is, just what I believe.

And finally, Molina won’t be a Jay by then, and the Jays would probably have d’Arnaud up if he pans out. If not, free agency is a wonderful place to find adequate back-up catchers – see: John Buck.

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The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 5 months ago

Papelbon would make sense for the Jays, but I know touted prospects are fun and exciting to watch there devlopment, but you may have your hopes set too high, they may not all devlop to their hype, this goes for all teams.

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4 years 5 months ago

i also believe if we don’t see any of our prospects as a future closer we should go for paps. he pitches well vs the AL east so why not keep him here.

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vilifyingforce
4 years 5 months ago

Because unless he pitches like it’s 2006 he is not worth $12M.

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

I don’t know how or why Jays fans keep bringing up Papelbon. He’s a closer making $12 million this year. Have we learned nothing from the BJ Ryan deal? Nothing?!

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

Agreed, i wouldnt go anywhere near papelbon.

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

fielder would require another wells like contract but he will be heading into his prime if we do sign him. plus we need not a good team but a great team to compete in this AL east and fielder would complete the jays well IF our pitching roster becomes what all jays fans believe they can become.

GO JAYS

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vilifyingforce
4 years 5 months ago

We’d get him entering the season he turns 28. I see zero reason he’ll be useful beyond what his father was and Prince will NOT be signing a five year deal. So no to Fielder. Thanks.

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gorlak357
4 years 5 months ago

I hope the Jays avoid both of those players. AA has yet to show an example of when he waits till a guy is going to get overpaid before he buys. If anything I would expect high impact players to come through trades since the jays are beginning to see a log jam in SP.

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vilifyingforce
4 years 5 months ago

No to Fielder and no to Papelbon thanks. Also swapping Adam Lind with Prince Fielder won’t make us one of the best teams.

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phillipmike
4 years 5 months ago

Im not a big Cito fan but i believe it is Arencibia’s fault in addition to Anthopoulos keeping his word.

Last season Arencibia went 5 for 37. He went 4 for 5 in his debut. In his final 32 at bats he hit a single. Arencibia gave Cito no reason to start him over Buck.

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BrocNessMonster
4 years 5 months ago

So what? It isn’t like they were in it. He should have been getting needed experience, especially considering Buck was hitting FA.

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inawnehmuss
4 years 5 months ago

Yeah, because Arencibia’s struggles were relevant to the Jays favouring Buck over the final two weeks of the season when the team wasn’t even close to anything resembling a playoff race?

At that point, letting a catcher-of-the-future develop and get his at-bats at the major league level trumps your excuse/reason/idea. Sorry, but it does.

If the Jays had have still been in it, then what you said definitely would have applied.

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phillipmike
4 years 5 months ago

Anthopoulos’s word was on the line, Buck needed to finish the season as the starter to ensure that he has enough games played to qualify as a Type B free agent. And AA needed to keep his word so that outside players knew that they were going to be straight shooters. It has nothing to do with contention.

Arencibia had at bats and showed he couldnt do much, he only had 5 hits in 37 at bats. If the GM, their manager and possibly the ENTIRE organization thought that not having Arencibia play out the rest of last season would completely hinder his development then i am sure they would have started him.

Arencibia is a top prospect. If anyone can tell me not having him start the majority of the games after his call up last season completely through his career out the window then please let Alex Anthopoulos know, you should be a scout. Just because he is young doesnt mean he should start, you have to earn it and going 5 for 37 isnt earning it. You cant just hand over the job to someone undeserving, thats not how you teach someone to improve.

“At that point, letting a catcher-of-the-future develop and get his at-bats at the major league level trumps your excuse/reason/idea. Sorry, but it does.”

This is ridiculous. Its not my ideas, its the ideas of the Toronto Blue Jays FRIGGIN General Manger Alex Anthopoulos. I trust his judgement over yours.

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4 years 5 months ago

one could argue that he struggled BECAUSE he played sporadically, not played sporadically because he struggled

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phillipmike
4 years 5 months ago

You could… But he started 4 games out of a possibly 7 during a week and hit a single in 15 at bats (this was a few days after his debut). If he strung together something respectable then he would have gotten more starts.

Everyone needs to calm down. His career isnt over, this kid has talent. Cito and AA did ruin him. AA loves his prospects and has been around the organization for a long time, he knows what he is doing. Arencibia will have an opportunity to start next season, everything will be ok. Now step off the ledge.

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Janssen
4 years 5 months ago

This is 100% correct. He was sitting for 8 days at one point. Anyone who believes this “my word is my bond” crap is just being silly. While I totally agree that it’s a great way to spin the situation, we all know Cito was the issue.