East Notes: Simon, Red Sox, Feliciano, Mets

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Wek
4 years 3 months ago

How can Cashman make such a blunt statement when Torre “abused” Proctor.

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bosox21
4 years 3 months ago

Beat me to it. That was my first thought after reading that headline.

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YanksFanSince78
4 years 3 months ago

You’re acting if those facts are not mutually exclusive. I’m sure if someone asked him about Proctor he would say the same thing. Now if TORRE were asked that question regarding Feliciano and said the same thing, then we’d have something to talk about.

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Wek
4 years 3 months ago

I never mentioned those two cases cannot be mutually exclusive at all so I’m not sure where you are getting that. In case you missed the point, I was ripping, if you will, Cashman for portraying the Mets as bad guys by saying they “abused” Feliciano when his own team has done the same thing in the past. The Mets did not “abuse” him by asking to pitch so many innings, he was willing to go out on the mound “like all good ballplayers” when asked to do so. Yes he was overworked because of the state bullpen but not abuse as Cashman puts it.

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YanksFanSince78
4 years 3 months ago

What does “A” what Torre, who no longer is affiliated with the Yanks, have anything to do about a question that Cashman answered in, what he thought to be, an honest evaluation?

Your statement of “How can Cashman make such a blunt statement when Torre “abused” Proctor” makes it seem like Cashman is being hypocritical and was condoning or ignoring what Torre did. Cashman didn’t control what Torre did and I’m sure he probably doesn’t condone the overuse of any of his players under contract for more than 1 year.

I wasn’t attackingyoubut certainly not understanding how Torre/Proctor has anything to do with Cashman and his comment about Feliciano. You act as if one speaks for all or all are responsible for the actions of one.

That’s as silly as getting mad at a comment made by Alderson about another organization because Minaya may have done the same thing during his tenure. One has nothing to do with other.

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TapDancingTeddy
4 years 3 months ago

Not only did Proctor get abused by Torre, so did Tanyon Sturtze and Luis Vizcaino. Torre was not the guy to work for if you were a middle relief guy.

As for the whole “what Cashman said” thing, I can see that the Yanks history of tearing up relievers would come up when he says another organization did the same. No one’s going to care that Cash was never the manager and didn’t personally make calls to the bullpen.

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paul_oneills_lovechild
4 years 3 months ago

And being a realist…we can throw in Paul Quantrill, even though he lead MLB in appearances with the Dodgers the 3 years prior he arrived in NY. Certainly, the Mets and the Yankees aren’t the only teams to overuse relievers, however, Cashman’s comments are ridiculous as he is the one who signed Feliciano…being full-aware of what was going on in Flushing…unless he was not doing his homework because he was too busy rappelling off buildings in his elf costume!?!?

I am a die-hard Yankees fan, but not a fan of Cashman. And while being a little off-topic…doesn’t Cash look like a slightly younger, slightly cuter, version of Jeff Van Gundy!!!

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I am Urban Legend
4 years 3 months ago

jeff van gundy and cute should never be put in the same sentence, page, book or library together…ever…

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TapDancingTeddy
4 years 3 months ago

Yes, Quantrill is another tough guy who got overused by Torre. He had a great attitude and no one there to protect him from his own desire to contribute.

As for cute, I have to decline as I don’t usually weigh in on men’s attractiveness!

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5_tool_MiLB_fool
4 years 3 months ago

ned colletti is guilty by all counts too you know. at least he keeps his mouth shut about it but then again i don’t expect a depressed millionaire to talk much.

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greggofboken
4 years 3 months ago

So Cashman feels the Mets “abused” Pedro’s arm. No kidding. Why’d he sign him for two years? He pitched in over 85 games 3 seasons running. Look at the track record of pitchers who have done that. What happens next?

Does Cashman not even read his hometown papers? This was no secret. He comes across as more and more of a complete tool as time goes on.

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YanksFanSince78
4 years 3 months ago

If anything this shows how Cashman be so cavalier with money and how desperate he is when it comes to lefty bullpen guys. Other than a good two weeks in October post-season we really have gotten nothing from Damaso Marte’s 3/$12 mil deal. Pedro’s issues don’t seem as drastic but certainly not getting off to a good start. I wonder, what could’ve happened from the medical exam he took to spring training for himto have a sore shoulder all of a sudden?

I can defend the statement he made, even if it rubs ppl the wrong way, but the signing was one of those “sign him and hope he holds up” move and while they can afford it and it didn’t cost us a pick it really is sort of a waste.

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4 years 3 months ago

The Mets absolutely would have resigned Feliciano if he didn’t demand a two year $4M deal… Cashman wasn’t wrong in signing him, there was risk to be had for anybody who signed him.

The Mets just couldn’t afford the risk/reward factor at this juncture, with quite a few other holes to plug. The Yankees could…

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YanksFanSince78
4 years 3 months ago

I agree. Cashman was well aware of Pedro’s issues. They were all well noted, well documented and EVERYONE has said the same thing about his overuse. I guess the fact that it comes from a GM is what bothers ppl. It’s not like Cashman is acting as if it was hidden. PC or not, what he said was the truth and even though there was no background mentioned I’m sure his remark was in response to a question rather than him just throwing that comment out there.

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icedrake523
4 years 3 months ago

Baubach could be trolling. One of the great things about being a sportswriter is you can make things up.

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G W
4 years 3 months ago

Doesn’t take many attributed made up quotes for people to stop talking to you though. Usually it’s “a source in the organisation said”, IE they made it up or a hot dog vendor told them.

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TimotheusATL
4 years 3 months ago

Ah, Twitter — the convenient way for a sports journalist to state an opinion without any backing facts.

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SierraM363
4 years 3 months ago

If anyone’s an expert in abusing pitchers it’s the Yankees.

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roomwithamoose
4 years 3 months ago

It’s more like Joe Torre than, you know, the yankees philosophy

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icedrake523
4 years 3 months ago

They enabled it.

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East Coast Bias
4 years 3 months ago

Hey, at least we paid them handsomely while doing so.

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MB923
4 years 3 months ago

No it’s Dusty Baker