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Enjoyed the Pradingham discussion, Tim. Unless Constanza drops like a rock the rest of the season, or Wren decides to sell high and move him, I imagine he stays as the 4th OF next year. Fredi and Parrish aren’t big OBP guys, and they’ve fallen in love with Georgie’s speed and hustle. … Which may come back to bite the team next year, but hey, it ain’t my money.
The Tigers have 26.5MM coming off the books with Maggs, Penny, and Guillen. I’m not sure I understand what you mean when you say that money will be a problem when looking at Reyes.
You have to realize that most of their players salaries will increase next year as well.
Reyes = $20M
Verlander = $7.25M more
Cabrera = $1M more
Martinez = $1M more
So you would only be adding 1MM in salary. That’s pocket change when comparing it to a payroll.
Note the “etc” at the bottom. Every player on the roster would likely be receiving a pay increase. You also still have to fill holes that would be vacated by players leaving (Carlos Guillen, Magglio, Valverde???, etc).
It would likely be closer to a $10M increase in payroll based on these figures.
Okay. You obviously don’t watch the Tigers because if you did, you would know that Magglio plays on the bench. Santiago plays more second than Guillen. And Valverde isn’t leaving. It is extremley likley that they pick up his option. I don’t see a way that they don’t. They don’t have any holes except for third.
I don’t watch the Tigers. Just because those guys don’t play much or well doesn’t mean that you don’t have to find someone to fill their roster spot if they leave. Those people will likely not be free and are considerably more likely to cost at least $1M each.
It’s not about production. Just salaries.
They are not resigning those guys. They have players in the system that can fill those spots. Salaries and production go hand in hand. They don’t just give some Joe Shmo $10MM. If that were true, then every gang banger running from the cops on the 8 would get signed.
Why am I getting into this? Illitch has shown that he is willing to be a tip 5 payroll. Detroit is not a small market team (contrary to popular belief.) Money is not a big problem. Reyes would be a do-able contract.
I’m not saying Reyes won’t or can’t be signed by Detroit.
I’ll tell you what. If they sign Reyes and their payroll is less than $120M I will admit that you are right.
And why would you move on from Valverde. He has an ERA way under 1 in save situations. He is a dominant closer and a terrible set up man.
The Yankees had massive amounts of cash coming off the books that year (2009). For education purposes, all these players and their bloated salaries were coming off the books:
Jason Giambi $23,428,571
Bobby Abreu $16,000,000
Johnny Damon $13,000,000
Hideki Matsui $13,000,000
Mike Mussina $11,071,030
Carl Pavano $11,000,000
That’s at least 87m coming off the books, and 20m for Tex, 16 for AJ, and 14 (23) for CC going on the books, still leaving 37m to spare. In fact, even AFTER giving Tex, CC, AJ large contracts, they were about 7.5 million BELOW their previous year’s payroll.
also, AJ’s contract is worth 82m, and most people I know, present company exuded, would not count an 82m contract as a (near) 100m one.
So no, the Yankees will not hand out 100m contracts like candy this year. That was a special case when everything just worked out.
But . . . but . . . he doesn’t sound like a saint that way for taking less money . . .
rMarx01 that kind of depends. The Yanks offered $20M / year over 7 years. The Phils gave him $120 over 5 years. However his contract is heavily loaded in the back end (and adjusting for inflation the annual value is relatively similar in both deals).
I’d say they were about equal. (Also his last year is for $27.5M or a $12.5M buyout). So there’s that.
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