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yankswin28
Just sign Pedro.
johnsilver
I would rather see Alex Wilson have a try than Harrang or vazquez, much less take a chance Harrang would opt for his end of the mutual option for 2012.
East Coast Bias
For real man. Hasn’t Javy had enough failures in the AL East already?
a36Martz
Igawa is going to be a free agent next season ! lol
RMR
I would happily give them back Bronson Arroyo
0bsessions
I would happily take him at this point.
0bsessions
Something I noticed this morning:
BAbip for Boston starters for the month of September:”
Wakefield: .250
Lester: .344
Bedard: .345
Becket: .375
Lackey: .417
Miller: .464
An interesting anomaly. It’s hard to assume all of that is luck, but that is pretty ridiculous that only one pitcher on the staff has had a BAbip below league average this month with most of them being extraordinarily high. The one conclusion it DOES lead me to, however, is I have to wonder if the lineup has more to do with this than people are assuming. Luck isn’t the only thing indicated by BAbip, it can also be due to fielding.
Either way, though, this team looks absolutely gassed right now. *Sigh*
East Coast Bias
Did you also check AGon’s babip while you were at it?
0bsessions
Last I checked, it’s been high all season (Which makes sense considering his swing, though anyone expecting him to hit close to .340 again next year is nuts).
That said, one player having a BAbip that’s way off is one thing, but their entire staff with one exception? That is incredibly strange and really hard to characterize as straight forward bad luck.
notsureifsrs
always best to look at BABIP and LD% together, but especially when the sample is as small as one month:
wakefield 9.6
lester 18.5
bedard 21.4
beckett 15.6
lackey 26.4
miller 25.8
so relative to LD%, lester and especially beckett have very high BABIPs. everyone else seems to have earned the old fashioned way. or the john lackey way, we should start to call it
0bsessions
Didn’t even think to check that. Clears up that logic a bit.
notsureifsrs
yup javier vasquez definitely wants to come back to yankee stadium
mondaymorninggm
what about giving a sp-ot start to one of your bullpen guys. like bard. just 5 or 6 innings. isnt anyone at triple aaa even decent??
zeles
bard can’t last more than a third of an inning…what’s to make u think he can last 5?
Shu13
Being an Angels fan I love to see Lackey’s body language and melt down reactions on teh field after he slammed the Angels and us fans after he left….soooo glad the Angels stood their ground and didn’t overpay for him like Bawston did…
notsureifsrs
instead of a one game playoff, if the angels and sox somehow tie for the wildcard i say we have john lackey and vernon wells fight to the death
sallen22
Precisely, except let’s give them weapons. Lackey gets a baseball to throw at Vernon and Vernon gets a bat to swing at Lackey. Here’s how it would play out: Lackey would throw the ball at Vernon but it would miss him by at least 5 feet and leave Lackey unarmed. Vernon would charge after Lackey with his bat in hand, chase him around the ball field and swing and miss for about half an hour until they both got tired and passed out.
The tie would be ruled a tie. Thus we’d need a tiebreaker for the tiebreaker. I suggest an old man contest between Tim Wakefield and Bobby Abreu. It would pretty much play out the same way, Wakefield would throw at Abreu and it would hit him, but since he doesn’t throw hard enough Abreu would be uninjured, then Abreu would just stand there with the bat on his shoulder like he has the whole season and pray he gets a free pass.
So then we’d have a tiebreaker for the tiebreaker for the tiebreaker, which would be a 2×200 relay featuring Ellsbury and Crawford vs Bourjos and Trout, in which case the Angels would win.
mrjedsnyder
pretty accurate descriptions of these players if you ask me…
0bsessions
While amusing, it’s a bit off. Lackey’s walk rate, while not stellar, is a manageable 3.1 (By comparison, Jon Lester’s a 3.4). On the other hand, he hits people like it’s going out of style (19 hit batsmen this year) while Wakefield’s only hit 8 batters.
Meanwhile, Wells is having a better than average season for strikeouts, sitting at 82 (Career average is 90). Comparatively, Kevin Youkilis, a hitter known for his plate discipline, has 100 strikeouts in only 14 more plate appearances.
Fun ruined. You’re welcome, folks.
Mario Saavedra
He hits people because he isn’t trying to hit them. I he where trying to do so, he would probably only throw strikes.
MaineSox
So assuming this were to take place, theoretically, who would be considered the winners? It would have to be the team whose player died in this case right?
jgmaynard
They really should have stretched out Aceves back into a starter…
Matt Galvin
Felix D.? K. Weiland? Andre Miller?
zeles
I don’t want to see Miller or Weiland again…at least not for another year.
johnsilver
Agree on Weiand. For some reason never had much faith in him and Doubront has been relieving of late, plus injured often this season..meaning 2011 IMO has been a wash for the guy.
If they let a youngster get a start, I am for Wilson, but his callup to AAA was really delayed with the signing of that useless Millwood earlier this season.
hawkny11
Forget about Lackey and Wakefield because putting them on the mound is as good as forfeiting every game they pitch.
Go with Aceves, Lester, and a combination of Doubront, Aceves again, Tazawa, Albers and Wheeler for 2 innings each.
Let Papelbon, Bard know they may be expected to pitch multiple innings in multiple games during these last few games.
If all else fails, pitch Reddick, Pedroia and Saltalmacchia….so that the team at least dies with some sense of youthful dignity…Amen.
ps. apply the “peter principle” to Francona by promoting him to the front office as Theo’s assistant. Send the pitching coach along as Tito’s assistant assistant…
or, outright them all to Salem, VA… with regrets….and so longs..Amen, again.
johnsilver
Problem letting Aceves start, is that he has been the only dependable reliever to come in before the 9th inning and has shown can do it often.
Now.. Maybe let Atchisson start and try to go 4-5.. IMO he can do a better job right now than Lackey.
Then Lackey has been nothing short of a speilzeug esel this entire season.
slider32
Let’s face it the great Theo missed the boat this year! He failed to see the weakness in pitching and did not stock his minor leagues with good options. The move of Youk to third was a bad one for him, and Crawford was a bust. Letting Martinez and Beltre was also a poor choice on his part
MaineSox
Theo knew it was an issue and said as much before the season even started (Febuary I think) but there weren’t many good options available, and there wasn’t really any place to put more options anyway; they already had a full rotation, two starters in the bullpen, and three more starting options in the minors, plus they picked up two more starters over the course of the season (Millwood and Bedard). You would normally believe that a team could make it through a season with 12 options for starting pitchers, the problem came when two of their top 4 starters suffered season ending injuries, and their backups haven’t performed well at all.
captainjeter
What is this really about ? THe Yanks got t the divison. So, is this just the Sox trying to play spoilers , so that the Yanks don’t have home field throughout the playoffs?
They already won the season series. And any pitcher they get can not be on the playoff roster.
Theo , never knew you to be so desperate just to stick it to the Yankees.
MaineSox
Pretty sure they are just trying to hang on to the Wild Card and couldn’t care less about the Yankees at this point.
Fangaffes
Just sign Mike Capuano. He’d be as good as anyone they currently have. Don’t trade any more prospects for rentals. Especially for one game.