NL West Notes: Hudson, Soon-Shiong, Rockies, Hill

The Diamondbacks have been one of baseball’s busiest teams so far this offseason. GM Kevin Towers and manager Kirk Gibson agreed to extensions and John McDonald, Henry Blanco and Willie Bloomquist have all re-signed with the defending NL West Champions. Here’s the latest from the division…

  • If the Rockies are indeed interested in Padres second baseman Orlando Hudson, Bill Center of the San Diego Union-Tribune doubts the Padres would be willing to pick up any of Hudson's salary in a trade.  Hudson will earn $5.5MM in 2012, with an $8MM option for 2013 that can be bought out for $2MM.  Center also discusses several other Padres topics in his weekly chat with fans, such as the possibility of moving in the fences at Petco Park.
  • Billionaire Patrick Soon-Shiong told Arash Markazi of ESPN Los Angeles that he has been approached by at least one of the groups trying to buy the Dodgers.  Soon-Shiong is considered to be the richest man in Los Angeles and bought a 4.5% share of the L.A. Lakers last year.
  • The Rockies aren't going to revisit their pursuit of Michael Young, tweets Troy Renck of the Denver Post.  Colorado and Texas were very close to a deal involving Young last winter in the wake of Young's trade request, but Young settled things with Rangers management and now there is "no motivation for [the] Rangers to move him."
  • Also from Renck, he doesn't think the Rockies will look to move Matt Belisle this winter, though Matt Lindstrom could be available.
  • As part of a reader mailbag, MLB.com's Chris Haft was surprised that the Giants needed to include Ryan Verdugo along with Jonathan Sanchez in the deal that brought Melky Cabrera to San Francisco.  That said, Haft writes "it's conceivable that the Giants might have obtained the most that Sanchez and Verdugo would bring."
  • The Rockies “love” Jamey Carroll, but wouldn’t be interested in signing him to a multiyear deal, according to Renck (Twitter links). The former Rockies infielder is nearing a multiyear deal with Twins.
  • The Rockies aren’t likely to sign Michael Cuddyer, but they continue pursuing Martin Prado, Renck reports.
  • The Diamondbacks have a multiyear offer on the table to Aaron Hill and it expires Monday, according to Jack Magruder of FOXSportsArizona.com (on Twitter). If Hill signs, the Diamondbacks will turn their attention to starting pitching.
  • Bruce Jenkins of the San Francisco Chronicle suggests the Giants should re-sign Carlos Beltran to a two or three-year deal.

MLBTR's Mark Polishuk also contributed to this post


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58 Comments on "NL West Notes: Hudson, Soon-Shiong, Rockies, Hill"


vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

this just in beltran wants more than two or maybe three years ,  maybe sign pujols for a two year deal too  or reyes for two while your at it

55saveslives
3 years 8 months ago

You are comparing Beltran to Pujols and Reyes?

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

its absurd to think any of them will sign for two years .  So in a way I did compare them.

bearsbball11
3 years 8 months ago

Beltran will be a few weeks from turning 35 at the start of next season. Pujols and Reyes won’t be.

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

so whats your point , i still think none of them sign for two years.  maybe it was a stretch considering two of them will get 5,6,7 year deals an one will get 4 , but still foolish of the dish rag known as the chronicle to say sign beltran for 2 years when he clearly will get more elsewhere 

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 8 months ago

You think Beltran’s going to get 4 years?? From who?

vtadave
3 years 8 months ago

4 sounds reasonable to me.

Sincerely,

B. Sabean

3 years 8 months ago

At what price?

Sincerely,

B. Sabean

55saveslives
3 years 8 months ago

Beltran gets 3yrs at the most…Ppujols and reyes get 5 minimum!

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

no doubt about reyes and pujols ,  beltran gets three year deal with a  fourth year option easily , probably already offered it 

John
3 years 8 months ago

This just in you’re a retard.

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

very classy 

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 8 months ago

You called someone a retard while using no grammar. Fool.. (Although that did make me chuckle)

vtadave
3 years 8 months ago

Your stupidity just cracked me up or some reason.

avpisano
3 years 8 months ago

Beltran doesnt deserve more than 2 years

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

very true but he will get it 

3 years 8 months ago

And no player is worth $300MM…but we know what’s about to happen don’t we?

stl_cards16
3 years 8 months ago

……no player is going to get $300MM?

3 years 8 months ago

I hope my Dbacks sign Hill for around a 2yr./10mil. type of deal. I think he will turn it around next year, he showed signs of it in his stint with AZ.

3 years 8 months ago

I agree, I think Aaron will do great in AZ and I hope he signs with the Dbacks. Aaron was having fun in his time there and batting second in the lineup gave him confidence again to go hit the way he did in 2009 and not just hit for home runs.

3 years 8 months ago

I agree, I think Aaron will do great in AZ and I hope he signs with the Dbacks. Aaron was having fun in his time there and batting second in the lineup gave him confidence again to go hit the way he did in 2009 and not just hit for home runs.

leachim2
3 years 8 months ago

You own the dbacks. WOW. Can i have some money.

vtadave
3 years 8 months ago

sigh….

northsfbay
3 years 8 months ago

I would say the Beltran gets 2 years 30 mil and an option at the very least.

baybombers
3 years 8 months ago

I hope you’re right

No Neck
3 years 8 months ago

Between Blum, McDonald, and Bloomquist, AZ has tied up at least 5M this season on backup IF… that’s almost 10% of their payroll.

vtadave
3 years 8 months ago

Their payroll will be $50 million? Who are they, the Royals?

Gator4444
3 years 8 months ago

Good for 1st place apparently…

Gator4444
3 years 8 months ago

Good for 1st place apparently…

3 years 8 months ago

Who are some of the likely trade candidates for the Rockies for Prado?

bearsbball11
3 years 8 months ago

Seth Smith, Charlie Blackmon, Tim Wheeler

Triple Hawpes Brewed
3 years 8 months ago

They can keep Smith, he’s nothing special.

bearsbball11
3 years 8 months ago

He had a way better OPS+ than any Braves outfielder last season, so there’s that.

coolstorybro222
3 years 8 months ago

just give us the last two please

haymaker9
3 years 8 months ago

In addition to Smith, Blackmon or Wheeler, you can graze the Rockies ‘Below Replacement-Level Buffet’, and take any or all of Ryan Spilborghs, Chris Nelson, Jordan Pacheco, Hector Gomez, and Cole Garner.  Call now and you’ll receive a Ty Wigginton free with your order!!

Braves95
3 years 8 months ago

I dont understand what the heck is Wren trying to do. He better be thinking of trading the porpects that he’ll eventually get if he trades Prado for a power hitting LF cause Smith is not the solution.

BaseballLogic_Braves
3 years 8 months ago

YES WREN, TRADE THE PORPECTS.

haymaker9
3 years 8 months ago

In addition to Smith, Blackmon or Wheeler, you can graze the Rockies ‘Below Replacement-Level Buffet’, and take any or all of Ryan Spilborghs, Chris Nelson, Jordan Pacheco, Hector Gomez, and Cole Garner.  Call now and you’ll receive a Ty Wigginton free with your order!!

vtadave
3 years 8 months ago

CarGo.

BobbyJohn
3 years 8 months ago

Seth Smith, Ty Wigginton, Dan Houston, and Joe Gardner for Prado and JJ.

unbiasedhomer
3 years 8 months ago

So three quad-A guys and a somewhat decent pitching prospect for a former All-Star and a #2 or 3 pitcher.  Got it.

Thomas Wilson
3 years 8 months ago

2011
Prado .687 OPS
Mcclouth .677 OPS
Heyward .708 OPS
Bourn .687 OPS
Costanza .724 OPS

Seth Smith .830 OPS(would have led the entire Braves team) I guess you would know all about AAAA players after watching that outfield

unbiasedhomer
3 years 8 months ago

You’re also conveniently omitting that .576 OPS (.588 career) against LHP.

Fine platoon player, but that’s it.  The Braves need a right-handed bat who can hit lefties.  Smith can do neither.

Thomas Wilson
3 years 8 months ago

Smith never gets to face LH starters since he plays for Jim Tracy so most of his AB against LHP is LOOGYs who tend to be be tough for any LHB. In 2009 Smith had an .868 OPS in 69 PA against LHP and a .393 in 2010 over 55PA the truth is that Smith murdered LHP in the minors and has never been given a chance in the majors. Smith isn’t an All Star in the OF but he is a good hitter certainly not AAAA.

BobbyJohn
3 years 8 months ago

Houston and Gardner are both AA pitching prospects, so your “three quad-AAAA guys” fails right off the bat.

Wigginton has made as many All-Star teams as Prado (the same season, in fact), and Smith has a higher career OPS+.

There’s no doubt that the Braves are lefty heavy, but from what I’ve read they are interested in Smith for whatever reason. If that’s the case, then Wigginton would fill a similar role as Prado, particularly at 3B where there’s a need for a reliable backup, and the Braves would get a couple of live arms for their system in exchange for a guy (JJ) they appear to be intent on moving.

BobbyJohn
3 years 8 months ago

Seth Smith, Ty Wigginton, Dan Houston, and Joe Gardner for Prado and JJ.

buckhenry
3 years 8 months ago

As others have said, Beltran at a minimum will get two years with a third-year option.  An AL team such as Boston could easily offer him three years up front.

The problem for the Giants, as Jenkins noted in his column today, is that Beltran won’t sign there unless they improve the offense elsewhere.  Melky Cabrera and a healthy Buster Posey and Freddy Sanchez won’t be enough to convince him.  Yet they won’t have the money to do what Beltran probably wants them to do: sign Rollins or Reyes.  Nor should the Giants put Beltran in RF at AT&T.  So Jenkins is really barking up the wrong tree.  Beltran won’t sign for only 2 years in SF, and the Giants can’t make themselves attractive enough even if they offered him 3.

Gator4444
3 years 8 months ago

Since when is Carlos Beltran allowed to make demands?  Guy is probably the worst defensive RF in the league and he had some nice offense in another contract year.  35 years old and injury-prone, pass…

Southgadawg
3 years 8 months ago

Why would the Braves trade on of the “backbone pieces” of the team for severl inferior players or prospects? When you have the best you keep it. Prado should be staying with the Braves for the remainder of his career.

3 years 8 months ago

I could see an Iannetta Hudson swap. The Padres had some interest last year, just were not enticed by Iannetta’s contract. However, to dump Hudson and get a catcher to paid with Nick Hundley, makes sense. Logan Fosythe should get a legit shot at second in that case. Make no mistake about it, I’m aware of Iannetta’s splits and resume, and would hope for more but that’s not realistic unless the Padres pay much of Hudson’s contract. Which, is VERY unlikely.

bearsbball11
3 years 8 months ago

Iannetta for Hudson? Hahaha no thanks. Iannetta is $2M cheaper, 6 years younger, a better player overall, and plays a more valuable position.

3 years 8 months ago

Iannetta actually with a bounce back type year and it’s still not impressive considering his production away from Coors. Career 235/357/430 vs Hudson 277/345/417. He’s better? No. Considering how poor Iannetta is away from Coors, and how Hudson had such a poor season, in part because of Petco, this could actually be good for both teams. 

Iannetta’s contract for his production is not ideal, just like Hudson’s contract. Hudson looked unmotivated in SD. He’s use to “change of scenery” but like any offensive minded players, he did not like playing In Petco park. Who does? Also, with Rasario coming up,  I would say that Iannetta’s job could be limited. Co would be better off IMO with Wilin and Alfonzo with an upgrade at second they desperately need. Hudson’s defense up the middle (if he’s happy) is above average and could work well with Tulo.

bearsbball11
3 years 8 months ago

Do I need to use the Coors effect to explain his road numbers? Playing at Coors benefits Rockies players at home, for obvious reasons, but it also hurts them when playing away games because the ball is suddenly moving much more and differently than they’re used to. For an example of this, look at Matt Holliday, whose home numbers plummeted and road numbers skyrocketed after leaving the Rockies, leaving him with more or less the same production. Also, Iannetta’s career OPS is 25 points higher than Hudson’s and he isn’t in decline. Iannetta’s WAR last season was 4th among NL catchers (min. 400 PA) and he hardly played the last month due to the Rockies giving Rosario a look (which showed that he isn’t ready to play every day). Hudson’s WAR on the other hand was 10th among NL 2nd basemen (min. 400 PA) and he has been in decline the past 2 seasons. No thank you.

3 years 8 months ago

What are you rambling about? I said I’m aware of his resume and his splits. I understand how the altitude works in Colorado. It doesn’t HURT them when they are playing away. Like Petco, it’s the polar opposite. The ball flies in Coors, so the hitters will benefit greatly at home. Unlike Petco, the hitters will benefit AWAY from Petco, and  bode better playing on the road. Using just WAR? End of discussion.

Flharfh
3 years 8 months ago

“The Rockies “love” Jamey Carroll, but wouldn’t be interested in signing him to a multiyear deal”

Dear Jamey,

We love you, but we’re not in love with you.

Best of luck in Minnesota,

– Dan O’Dowd

Mariners4Ever
3 years 8 months ago

p.s. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!…. no seriously.

MattCMoore
3 years 8 months ago

The Rockies are always inquireing on everyone…

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
3 years 8 months ago

Had to google Patrick Soon-Shiong. Maybe it’s just me but I’d never heard of this guy, supposedly the richest person in LA. He’s a doctor who started a biotech company and made a fortune, worth $7 billion according to Forbes. He doesn’t claim to be a big baseball fan but he says he’s committed to all sports in LA. Front his money with some baseball people and it sounds pretty good.