Central Notes: Royals, Tigers, White Sox, Garza

Here's a look at some items concerning the AL and NL Central..

  • Several Royals officials have told Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star (via Twitter) that any major roster upgrades will come through trades rather than the free agent market.
  • There's nothing serious between the Tigers and Aramis Ramirez at the moment, a source told Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com (via Twitter).
  • In a deal for John Danks, the White Sox told the Yankees that they want Manny Banuelos and Jesus Montero from the Yankees, tweets Jon Heyman of SI.  Heyman writes that the Sox are obviously not serious about dealing Danks just yet.
  • The Tigers looking harder at the market for No. 5 starters than had been anticipated when the offseason began, tweets Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.  The club is after a reliever as well.
  • The Cubs told at least one team that it would take an overwhelming offer to even consider trading Matt Garza, tweets Jon Heyman of SI.
  • The Brewers are interested in hearing what it'll take to sign Jimmy Rollins, tweets Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
  • There's lots of skepticism over Albert Pujols' claim that he is 31 years old, tweets Jon Heyman of SI.  Heyman writes that the slugger may not be able to top the Cardinals' nine-year, $200MM offer if he cannot produce a birth certificate.  
  • Jim Riggleman will accept the Reds' offer to manage their Double-A affiliate, writes Adam Kilgore of The Washington Post.  Earlier today, Heyman reported that Riggleman was offered the position and was likely to accept.


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77 Comments on "Central Notes: Royals, Tigers, White Sox, Garza"


0bsessions
3 years 8 months ago


Heyman writes that the slugger may not be able to top the Cardinals’ nine-year, $200MM offer if he cannot produce a birth certificate.  ”

Heyman’s source: Luke Scott.

3 years 8 months ago

That was good. :)

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

Please, DD. Sign Reyes. Do you want me to beg? Because I WILL beg.

verlander
3 years 8 months ago

No. Sign Cepedes/Buerhle.

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

I really don’t want Buerhle and while I’d love Cespedes, I’d rather have Reyes. But if Ilitch gets really excited….

verlander
3 years 8 months ago

Meh. I feel like the only one who doesn’t want Reyes. If you signed Cespedes, you’d probably have money left over for SP and 3B/2B.  Can’t see that with Reyes. Maybe you trade Jhonny for a pitcher, then. idk. 

I just don’t want Reyes. Boo.

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

Then who would be your shortstop? Sign Reyes and Juan Pierre. Trade Young for bullpen help.

verlander
3 years 8 months ago

I’m sorry, but emphatic NOOOOO to Juan Pierre.

Jhonny was fine last year. Why does everyone want to get rid of him?

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

Maybe you trade Jhonny for a pitcher, then. idk. 
That was a quote from you made less than 45 minutes ago. I say move him to third. You said trade him. How quickly we forget.

verlander
3 years 8 months ago

I know what I said.  Thanks for being condescending, though.

You didn’t say anything about moving Jhonny to third, so I assumed you wanted to trade him.

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

But I said nothing about trading him. You said trading Peralta was an option. Then asked me why I said it. You’re not making any sense.

verlander
3 years 8 months ago

It was a frigging suggestion because I didn’t know what you were suggesting we do with Jhonny. You didn’t say anything about moving him to a different position.

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

Are you mad?

verlander
3 years 8 months ago

You’re annoying.

Bob George
3 years 8 months ago

Hanley Ramirez is likely available now. He’s said before that he won’t move off SS.

FunkyTime
3 years 8 months ago

Yeah, Buerhle and Reyes each sound like they’ll cost around $15 mil a year.  Give me Reyes over Buerhle any day of the week.

Buerhle is unnecessary.  Reyes is just what we need. 
 

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

Reyes will cost more like $19MM.

FunkyTime
3 years 8 months ago

At that price I’m not quite as interested.  But I’ve heard 6 years, $90 mil floated about.  And if he would take a bit of a discount to go to a real contender instead of the Marlins, I’d be all over that.

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

Assuming that the Marlins 6/111 offer is true, perhaps you can match it. But I wouldn’t go over. If it’s not, then offer 6/102.

verlander
3 years 8 months ago

I wouldn’t offer six years for José Reyes if someone held a gun to my head.

FunkyTime
3 years 8 months ago

I’d be fine with 6 years as long as they don’t have to go over $17 mil a year.

He’s only going to be 34 in 6 years.  The back end of that deal won’t be near as bad as most big free agent deals nowadays.

And shortstops that are great offensively and defensively are so damn rare.

verlander
3 years 8 months ago

Sounds like he’ll be getting $18.5 mil per if this reported Marlins deal is true.

GOTIGERS24
3 years 8 months ago

Please Tigers sign Reyes and Cespedes that would be a great Christmas present.

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

You’d have to add $15MM+ to the payroll, but while unlikely, it is possible. Cespedes’ salary would nearly be canceled out by Young leaving. If Ilitch is excited enough, it could happen.

Tigers2012WS
3 years 8 months ago

Ya that would be a great Christmas present especially considering that im moving in with my grandma. 

sam_lammert
3 years 8 months ago

reyes is a marlin

sam_lammert
3 years 8 months ago

my bad, didn’t see the time on the comment

Abraham Zapruder
3 years 8 months ago

Pujols is probably like 34 or 35. He should grab that 9 year offer from the Cards.

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

I’m curious where you are getting this. Do you have some proof? Maybe you saw a link with proof that you would like to share with us? Or you are just grabbing for conspiracy out of thin air. You sure did create conspiracy with the JFK video. You just can’t get enough can you, Mr. [Fake] Zapruder.

pmc765
3 years 8 months ago

What? GM’s won’t take Dan Lozano’s word for it?

FunkyTime
3 years 8 months ago

If the Tigers signed Reyes and all they did after that was trade Delmon Young away for a bag of balls and signed a cheaper option (like Coco Crisp) to replace him, I’d still consider this an EXTREMELY successful off-season.

Reyes alone would make the Tigers a legitimate World Series contender.  That’s more than you can say about any other player that’s available.  Get it done, Dombrowski.

slider32
3 years 8 months ago

If Fielder goes to the Rangers they will be the best team in baseball. Plus they already are better than the Tigers.

FunkyTime
3 years 8 months ago

I don’t see how that relates to anything I said, but thanks for sharing.

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

Good for you?

verlander
3 years 8 months ago

tl;dr

Paul Shailor
3 years 8 months ago

If Reyes is healthy and If he transforms from a selfish pos to a good team player then yes he would make the tigers WS contenders.

3 years 8 months ago

The thing about Pujols is he is an american citizen. Not sure if a lot of you pay much attention or know a lot about immigration in the States, but it is lengthy and in depth process including background checks to verify documents. I find it HIGHLY doubtful that Pujols not only tricked the MLB verification but also the U.S Government. 

DrHMD
3 years 8 months ago

Yeah, he’s not the president

Royals Fan
3 years 8 months ago

The birth certificate should be easy to find.  It’s right there in the same room as the President’s…….

3 years 8 months ago

except in the one case there was a reason to doubt (other players with falsified ages and BC’s) where as in the case of the president you have to be absolutely mental to think he was not a US citizen.

That said, I really think Pujols is probably as old as he claims to be.

johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

They could both do like Satchel Paige with regards to the location of a birth certificate.. Say that their momma kept it in the family Bible and that the goat at it years ago…

Paul Shailor
3 years 8 months ago

People need to get over Pujols’ age. Some people just look older, I mean look at Greg Oden!

3 years 8 months ago

12in12 #cardinalnation

jjs91
3 years 8 months ago

Oden seems to have osteoporosis so he’s probably lying about his age as well. 

Beavis De Beppo
3 years 8 months ago

HOLY COW!  Riggleman to manage Reds double-A team?  I CAN NOT BELIEVE IT!  WOOHOO!  Go Redlegs!!!  OK.  Got that out of my system.

Bob George
3 years 8 months ago

You’re excited about the Reds hiring a manager who quit on his players in the middle of the season? I’m shocked Riggleman got another job at any level.

Beavis De Beppo
3 years 8 months ago

Uh….not really.  It was a joke, man.  Could actually care less.

sam_lammert
3 years 8 months ago

how bout the tigers trade peralta to the cards for lohse?

3 years 8 months ago

Vargas, League and Triunfel for Castellanos!!!

MattCMoore
3 years 8 months ago

Yea right. Castellanos is our future at 3rd.

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

Terrible offer!

3 years 8 months ago

You tell ’em Kenny. No more BS trades, we want value! 

Whowonthe2009WorldSeries
3 years 8 months ago

There is value and then there is what Kenny Williams just asked for.  Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

3 years 8 months ago

Call Cashman back when you actually want to make a trade, Williams.  

johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

Williams is clearly out of his skull thinking he could get just Montero back for Danks, or just wants to keep him in the 1st place. asking for Banuelos on top of Montero just makes him look even more like a maroon.

3 years 8 months ago

It’s called asking, not demanding. Its obvious the Yankees won’t give either up for Danks, but many GM’s are known for making stupid trades. Giants trading Zack Wheeler (Giants #2 Prospect coming into the season) for a half season of Beltran. I think Danks can be had for a package of Romine or Betances, along with Noesi and smaller pieces

Whowonthe2009WorldSeries
3 years 8 months ago

Yeah, its all part of the negotiation.  Start really high because you can only concede, you can’t go and ask for more.

Joey Doughnuts
3 years 8 months ago

Exactly. People who actually think Kenny Williams thinks 1 year of Danks is worth Montero + Banuelos are sorely mistaken. It’s a negotiating strategy, not a firm offer that he expects to be accepted.

philliesfan136
3 years 8 months ago

Oh Chicago, you guys are some silly gooses. ;3

(But seriously, what has gotten into the minds of the White Sox FO?)

Joey Doughnuts
3 years 8 months ago

It’s a strategy, not a serious offer.

nictonjr
3 years 8 months ago

You think they would ask for Cervelli and Joba….

3 years 8 months ago

Which isn’t nearly enough.  Obviously they’d need to find middle ground between asking for the Yankees entire farm system or receiving a bag of baseballs if this trade ever happens.

JunKim
3 years 8 months ago

What’s so difficult? If Yankees think the price is too steep, then just stick to CC-Nova-Hughes-Garcia-AJ, or give ur farm to Gio Gonzalez.  No one is forcing them to pay what Sox deserve. If they don’t like it, then find other alternative. But I think it would be tough to find good pitching for a package centering around Betances.

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

You don’t know a lot about the Dominican, do you? They don’t always have them. And much like that guy who used his name as an old famous person, you have been dead for 41 years.

stl_cards16
3 years 8 months ago

I really doubt that’s a problem.  I would find it hard to believe Pujols attended High School and college in the United States without a birth certificate.

verlander
3 years 8 months ago

Pujols is Dominican, not Cuban.

Abraham Zapruder
3 years 8 months ago

Pujols isn’t from Cuba

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

It was a mistake. I had Cespedes on my mind.

JacksTigers
3 years 8 months ago

It was a mistake. I was thinking of Cespedes.

OaklandFan22
3 years 8 months ago

haha i know i was laughing too

harmony55
3 years 8 months ago

What are the chances that either Jesus Montero or Manny Banuelos posts 15.5 WAR over four consecutive seasons (as John Danks has)?

The years of control make the trade proposal unrealistic, but neither Montero nor Banuelos is a sure thing.

Joey Doughnuts
3 years 8 months ago

True, but the years and team control ARE the major thing. I am a White Sox fan and I think that’s insane. But I’d rather Kenny Williams ask for the moon and then work it from there than he just ask for too little and not maximize Dank’s value, like he appeared to do w/ Swisher.

notsureifsrs
3 years 8 months ago

what are the chances that both montero and banuelos combine for 16 WAR over 4 seasons? pretty good actually, and it could be a lot higher than that. 12 seasons of their talent >>>>>> 1 year of john danks, who is not an elite pitcher

i wouldn’t give up either one of those prospects to acquire him, let alone both. if the yankees want john danks, they should just sign edwin jackson

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/john-danks-the-left-handed-edwin-jackson/

3 years 8 months ago

Pujols isn’t from Cuba

harmony55
3 years 8 months ago

Baseball America has ranked Jesus Montero fourth and third in its last two Top 100 rankings of prospects. Of the nearly 20 prospects ranked No. 3 or No. 4 since 2000, only Joe Mauer, Jose Reyes, Josh Beckett and Vernon Wells have posted combined WAR over a four-year period that was higher than Danks’ last four years.

Third- and fourth-ranked BA prospects have included Corey Patterson, Jon Rauch, Sean Burroughs, Hank Blalock, Delmon Young, Ian Stewart, Brandon Wood, Jeremy Hermida and Joba Chamberlain.

However, I agree on the years of control and the comparability of John Danks to Edwin Jackson (who was BA’s No. 4 prospect in 2004).

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

Cant they just cut Albert Pujols in half and count his rings?

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

PUJOLS IS 38 years old and from CUBA!