AL East Notes: Crisp, Silva, Soler, Chavez

Four of the five American League East teams could use starting pitching depth and though the Rays have enviable rotation depth, they need a bat or two. Here are the details on the division, starting with Tampa Bay…

  • Coco Crisp, who agreed to a two-year, $14MM deal with the Athletics yesterday, told Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle that the Rays were a finalist for him (Twitter links). Tampa Bay was “in heavy on” the outfielder, but Oakland presented the better offer, according to Slusser.
  • Carlos Silva would earn a base salary of $1MM if he makes his way onto Boston’s roster, according to Scott Lauber of the Boston Herald. Silva, whose minor league deal with the Red Sox was announced yesterday, “will be part of a competition in Spring Training” GM Ben Cherington said. 
  • The Red Sox have scouted both Yoenis Cespedes and Jorge Soler, but they’re likely to pass on Cespedes and bid for Soler instead, according to Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe. The Red Sox are intrigued by Soler’s talent and they don’t like Cespedes’ asking price.  
  • Japanese infielder Hiroyuki Nakajima appears to seek a couple of million dollars per season on a multiyear deal, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (Twitter link). Heyman points out that Eric Chavez is an alternative for the Yankees if they don't work out a deal with Nakajima by this Friday's deadline.
  • Click here for details on the Orioles.


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51 Comments on "AL East Notes: Crisp, Silva, Soler, Chavez"


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3 years 6 months ago

my team the red sox should stop being cheap and go after cespedes.

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Devern Hansack
3 years 6 months ago

How are we being cheap if we’re already almost at the luxury tax? We don’t need to spend tons of money for an unproven commodity who would be a superfluous part on one of the best offenses in the majors.

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MaineSox
3 years 6 months ago

No way, Cespedes’ value is tied pretty tightly to his being able to play CF (which is questionable) and the Sox already have a pretty decent center fielder (<~ intentional understatement).  I would much prefer them to go after Soler, and spend the money for this year on someone other than Cespedes.

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redsx968
3 years 6 months ago

Funny. I was going to say that as frustrating as it is, it’s great that the Sox aren’t balls deep in YouTube hype. Don’t get me wrong- Cespedes is talented and may be a stud- but the Sox learned their lesson with Daisuke. Success and intelligence/financial savvy aren’t mutually exclusive, and I’m glad the Sox are cutting their spending a bit 

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MaineSox
3 years 6 months ago

Reports are really mixed on whether Cespedes can stick in center, he’s already 27 (young and in his prime, but doesn’t have a few years to polish his game), he is a very aggressive hitter who strikes out quite a bit (and that would only get worse in the majors).

In an article on ESPNBoston they used the ZIPs projection system to project Cespedes’ future performance and it came out to .270/.331/.435 which would be pretty good for a good defensive CF, but it’s not very if his defense relegates him to LF (his arm is only supposed to be average, so RF may be out of the question too).  And I know that ZIPs are far from perfect, especially when you are projecting someone from the Cuban leagues, but that line seems to jive pretty well with what scouts have said about his offense.

Soler on the other hand is much younger, and according to some has a lot more potential (but would take a few years in the minors to be ready), Callis even suggested that Soler could have gone #4 overall in the 2010 draft if he had been eligible (behind Harper, Taillon, and Machado, but ahead of Colon and Pomeranz).

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notsureifsrs
3 years 6 months ago

very happy to hear they’re not interested in cespedes. i’ll be even happier if they get soler, but i don’t see it happening

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MaineSox
3 years 6 months ago

Me either, but here’s hoping.

EDIT: I guess I actually kinda could see it happening, the Sox have always loved stockpiling talent, and it’s their last chance to use their monetary advantage in the international market. I’d assume it would take a major league deal to get it done, so it would count against the luxury tax which seems to be against their plan this offseason, but I think Soler is the kind of guy you break the bank for. I’m still not overly optimistic about the chances, but I could see them being seriously involved.

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notsureifsrs
3 years 6 months ago

i’m still sore over josh bell. they owe me

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MaineSox
3 years 6 months ago

 Haha, I hear ya

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johnsilver
3 years 6 months ago

What was it with the draft and being aggressive this season?

from 1 season to the next it’s look and look, they will be very aggressive, then have a draft like this year and sit back in many ways with more “safer” picks

Then, like last year when they were really aggressive with a weak overall draft and took so many high upside people from rounds 1-8, other than the sole safe pick in Ramos. it’s hard to figure from 1 season to the next just how they are going to go..

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MaineSox
3 years 6 months ago

Eh, they didn’t take a chance on Bell (and I really wish they had), but they took several other risky picks; the toughest signs being Swihart (who signed) and Golson (who didn’t), but others like Lake (didn’t), Betts (did), Owens (did), and Bradley (did) were also considered tough signings.

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3 years 6 months ago

God I hope the O’s get Soler.

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grownice
3 years 6 months ago

 Red Sox and cheap dont go together. You’re spoiled.

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Brian Broydrick
3 years 6 months ago

You know if the Sox get under the 178 million luxury tax threshold this year, they go back to level 1 next year and get taxed at 17.5% instead of 50% if they went over again this year. Yankees are trying to do the same.

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MaineSox
3 years 6 months ago

 There’s pretty much no way the Sox are under the luxury tax in 2012; I think their aim is to get under the limit in 2013 (which would also reset their tax rate).

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johnsilver
3 years 6 months ago

Rays a finalist on Crisp? then he and Shields could have finished off the fight they started a few years back huh?

Glad he didn’t sign with them and also.. so much for him saying he wanted to play for a “winner” as he said.. Now he will be buried, with the Athletics in a 2 team fight for the AL West cellar, along with the mariners.

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Devern Hansack
3 years 6 months ago

Excluding Silva’s 30.1-inning 2009, he was worth 3.5 WAR over his past two seasons. To match his salary, he must only put up 0.2 WAR for the Sox this year. I think it’s a good deal.

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Blue_Bomb
3 years 6 months ago

WAR does not work that way. Consider opportunity cost. 

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joeybw
3 years 6 months ago

I will take the plus from this. The Rays actually have spending money. Maybe they can use it to bring back Pena for a year.