Hamilton Open To Extension Before Spring Training

The Rangers have been talking to several of their core players about contract extensions this offseason, but Josh Hamilton told Jeff Wilson of The Fort Worth Star-Telegram that the door for a new deal is only open until Spring Training (Twitter link). He does want to remain in Texas long-term, but apparently does not want to negotiate while preparing for the season.

Hamilton, 30, is scheduled to become a free agent after earning $13.75MM in 2012 as part of the two-year, $24MM contract he signed last winter. He's hit a stout .311/.366/.541 during his four years with the Rangers, but only once in his five-year career has he stayed healthy enough to appear in more than 133 games. A full, healthy season with typical Hamilton production figures to have his agent eyeing Jayson Werth (seven years, $126MM) and Carl Crawford (seven years, $142MM) money on the open market next offseason.


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  1. vtadave 3 years ago

    6/120 with a cocaine clause?

  2. can they extend him, get darvish, and prince?

    • bigpat 3 years ago

       Then move to New York? I don’t think it’s possible to make all of those moves. I can see 2 out of 3 and no idea which plan is most likely, probably Darvish and Hamilton.

      • Stark2k 3 years ago

        DFW is a pretty big market ya know…   football may be the only sport that will sell out with a bad team, but they’ll embrace a good baseball team. 

        • The “rivalry” with the Astros should make Texas baseball more interesting. Let’s hope to see the Stros do anything in the next 4 years.

    • We won’t know until Darvish signs. There is no doubt that Josh would have to give the Rangers a discount, which i’m sure he’s more than willing to do, but only for so much. If other teams offer him $120M the Rangers would at least have to counter with $110M to keep him. I don’t think he’ll get $120M on the FA market though.
      I hope something can be worked out, but then there’s Kinsler to re-sign also, which is just as important.

    • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

      Yes it’s possible. Rich owners, huge attendance last two season, big tv deal coming, and a few big contracts coming of the books soon. All three could be had. It just depends on if JD would want to risk it on an injury risk in Hamilton and if Hamilton is willing to find a reasonable middle ground for both sides.

    • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

      Yes it’s possible. Rich owners, huge attendance last two season, big tv deal coming, and a few big contracts coming of the books soon. All three could be had. It just depends on if JD would want to risk it on an injury risk in Hamilton and if Hamilton is willing to find a reasonable middle ground for both sides.

    • MaineSox 3 years ago

       Unlikely probably, but I wouldn’t rule it out completely.

    • Someone’s gotta give. In total, you’re looking at $100M (including $51M+ signing bonus) for Darvish, $120M+ for Fielder, and Hamilton at around $100M+. They could if they get creative with Fielder, but there’s no way I see that happening. Hamilton would also have to throw them a short deal with more money or a huge hometown discount, which is a possibility. Darvish isn’t budging, I don’t think. There’s very little chance of 1 of those 3 things happening, let alone for all 3 to happen.

  3. Werth and Crawford were firts year busts, sign now Josh!

    • They weren’t MVPs for a reason. I wouldn’t put Josh in the same category as them…though I’m also not saying he should be paid their kind of money. 

  4. PieroB 3 years ago

    Nats must have Prince. Either Prince or Votto. Ted Lerner isn’t getting any younger at 86

    • It’s true, Votto would be the better long term option but you would have to give up four plus prospects 

      • Reds are going for it this year, no chance they trade Votto unless the Nationals are literally willing to give them anything they want.

    • Votto isn’t going to have this few of bidders. Prince has been in Pujols’ shadow and they need to take advantage of it. I can’t see Votto getting less than $150M, depending on the years, but I could see Prince Fielder well under that.

  5. vonhayesdays 3 years ago

    quick sign hamilton before he gets hurts again

  6. redsx968 3 years ago

    Hamilton off the market means an even less interesting offseason than I thought on the free agent front next year…

  7. His agent will eye Werth and Crawford money deals. Teams will eye Werth and Crawford disappointments.

  8. AmericanMovieFan 3 years ago

    Hamilton should get 5 years/$100 million with a clause in his contract that for all the time he’s on the DL or playing injured or has to go back to rehab, he loses extremely significant portions of the contract, like $100,000 per day on the DL or $250,000 per game he plays injured, etc.. So, if he plays up to his potential, he gets paid what he’s worth when healthy and if he can’t play, they don’t pay him. I honestly don’t see anything else working because he wants guaranteed money and years and teams want a healthy productive Hamilton, but don’t know how often or how long they’ll get that for if they were to sign him.

    • There’s no way he signs that. He leaves Texas before he signs that.

    • CaseyBlakeDeWitt 3 years ago

      You can’t take away money from him for playing hurt. That is one of the absolute worst things I’ve ever heard. You want to punish him for playing the game he loves and trying to help his team EVEN THOUGH HE IS INJURED? That is terrible…

    • There isn’t a player in the league that would agree to that (of Hamilton’s caliber). It’s not his fault that he gets injured, he does it busting his hump to make plays. Your proposal sounds like a punishment for playing too hard.

    • Too Many Idiots 3 years ago

      That wouldn’t come close to being approved by the player’s union. You build bonuses into a contract for ABs or games played. Injury is a risk you have to assume. Teams also buy insurance policies to cover losses on injuries.

    • Clause in his contract? That’s ridiculous. He’s one of the best hitting OFs with an MVP in his trophy case and you think $100M and/or 5 years is good enough, not to mention a clause? That’s what incentives are for in the first place. However, if you’re putting incentives into a $100M deal, you shouldn’t be doing that in the first place. Shows no confidence in the player. You do that on $10M deals or under, not $100M.

      If Werth can get $126M, Hamilton can too if the market is right. Texas is as good a place as any.

  9. I hope that the Rangers don’t sign him… he’d be a good fit at Safeco.

    • Oddly enough it usually takes money to sign free agents.

      • Jeremy Johnson 3 years ago

        What you think the Mariners dont have the money?

        • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

          They may have money, but they don’t have enough to make playing for that team attractive enough.

          • Washington and Seattle should pool their money together and buy Yankee letterhead.

      • Jeremy Johnson 3 years ago

        What you think the Mariners dont have the money?

  10. Jon Melton 3 years ago

    As much talent as any offensive player and also as much risk for injury.

  11. jjs91 3 years ago

    So i guess ranger fans are only going to bring up hamilton postseason numbers if he signs elsewhere

    • Nope, nobody here will hate Hamilton if he leaves here. CJ never gained the respect of the fans here that Hamilton has. CJ’s two postseasons were aweful. That’s one reason why he’s not a Ranger right now.

      • jjs91 3 years ago

        Hamiltons two postseasons were just as bad

        • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

          There’s a difference. Hamilton actually shows up for the postseason, until the World Series (which sucks). But CJ completely disappears once September rolls around.

          • jjs91 3 years ago

            Hamilton sucked in the alds and pretty much ever series hes been in except for one

  12. Lance Pistachio 3 years ago

    I think the injury risk is overstated. This isn’t Mark Prior here. The injury this year was a freak accident. He played in 156 games in 08, 09 was his injured year, he was the MVP in 10 and then this year. 

    • Stark2k 3 years ago

      Some of his big DL injuries may be fluky, but his injury history goes far deeper than that.  He is constantly playing with significant nagging injuries, such as his knees which have had multiple cortisone shots and could be a significant problem within any contract.

      In the MLB many players do play through injuries, but when you have big problems with it in your 20s its not a good sign for your 30s.

  13. AFCFAN06 3 years ago

    I think a deal with certain clauses would be a good idea for sure when healthy hamilton is a deff stud hes just been bit by the injury bug and do think hamilton would give texas a certain discount for sure.

  14. Marktown 3 years ago

    Not every Rangers fan wants to see Hammy sign long term in Texas. When healthy he’s one of the best but a full season of production has happened once. I’m looking forward to a good season from Hammy and then getting two draft picks for him signing somewhere else after 2012.

    • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

      This would only work if Moreland can be capable of picking up his production, case he’d likely take over LF for Hamilton in 2013.

      • Marktown 3 years ago

        Wait, the only way the Rangers get two draft picks is if Moreland picks up his production? I don’t follow.

        • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

          I mean, the only way this satisfies the fan base is if Moreland can successfully replace Hamilton. Because if Texas loses Hamilton and LF becomes a wasteland, the fans may not be too happy.

          • Marktown 3 years ago

            Who was it that said that he who listens to the fans will soon be sitting with them?

            I get the need to avoid negative PR but a winning team cures just about every ill that would come about from losing a fan favorite. I really think the fan base will be satisfied if the Rangers are winning more than simply having one particular player on the roster.

    • I’m with you. People in Atlanta keep looking at Hamilton with wide eyes, but even if we had the money to make a push for him, we have our own injury issues with Chipper that have to be resolved before a push for Hamilton (Chipper’s option could be exercised next off-season when Hamilton becomes a FA).

  15. I don’t think they should resign Hamilton. If they are paying somebody 20 million dollars for 6 more years. I want the player to be healthy. Hamilton has averaged playing 114 games the last three years. I think Fielder would be better investment because he has hardly missed any games since he started playing in the majors in fact the last 3 years I think he has only missed 1 game.

    • Marktown 3 years ago

      You are not alone in that assessment.

    • I don’t think it will take $20M/year to sign Hamilton.  In fact, i think you could sign him for 4yr/$60M with incentives.

      • Yeah if he would agree to that they would probably do that, but 20 million would be insane for a yearly price if it is for four years or more. It just depends if Hamilton would take a discount price.

  16. rpoabr 3 years ago

    Rangers fans are getting spoiled with that good offense for a few years new. If they don’t sign Hamilton, who all is going to pick up the slack?

    Of course, if Prince was to go there that would solve that problem…

    • Rangersfan32 3 years ago

      You realize our lineup is about 6 deep with power hitters right? We’d be 7 deep with Andrus and the 9 hole hitter (CF) being the only guys that don’t hit for power.

    • John McFadin 3 years ago

      More than a few years now. Since the 90s.

  17. He’s the face of your organization but with all of the injuries do you want to sign him long-term before August?  I would wait.

  18. Mikeschoolerforever 3 years ago

    If the Rangers do sign Prince and let Josh walk, Seattle will have an opening at RF and money to spend. Considering we don’t give Ichiro another year or two. Stay in the A.L. west and hit in front of Montero, just a thought.

  19. Lunchbox45 3 years ago

    Its funny from the comments in here it seems as if more people want to get rid of hamilton or don’t like him because of his past, instead of applauding him for overcoming such odds to become who he is..

    There are very few players as naturally gifted as Josh Hamilton is (if any players at all) And although he has battled injuries, its been mostly because of the style of game he plays. There is no direct proof that excessive drugs use leads to the body breaking down before 40.

    There is research done that PEDs, namely steroids can lead to early death and bodies breaking down early. And look how many of those players lasted in to their late 30’s and early 40s’. the problem is more an issue of long term health.

    • roomwithamoose 3 years ago

      the one issue that is associated with cocaine use is that it binds to the heart when passing through the body making that muscle weaker… there is a permanent long term effect that could perceivably be problematic, but besides that bone injuries, and other muscle related issues or unrelated to the cocaine use

  20. Lunchbox45 3 years ago

    Its funny from the comments in here it seems as if more people want to get rid of hamilton or don’t like him because of his past, instead of applauding him for overcoming such odds to become who he is..

    There are very few players as naturally gifted as Josh Hamilton is (if any players at all) And although he has battled injuries, its been mostly because of the style of game he plays. There is no direct proof that excessive drugs use leads to the body breaking down before 40.

    There is research done that PEDs, namely steroids can lead to early death and bodies breaking down early. And look how many of those players lasted in to their late 30’s and early 40s’. the problem is more an issue of long term health.

  21. Keep in RF and his risk of injury goes down significantly. 

  22. As I see it, Josh Hamilton should be re-signed for maybe 3 more years after this one. As for his health, he could be put in left field or be a DH down the line…he can hit.

  23. NexttoIgnore 3 years ago

    Swisher’s 5-year deal ends after 2012. With a spot in New York open, I would think They would be in on an MVP. Consider that good leverage to exceed Crawford money.

  24. Are you sure, Dr?

  25. Original. 

  26. tdot32 3 years ago

    im sure it wasn’t the car accident he was in…

  27. I hate to bringing this up… such a sad story but somebody died as a result of his actions at the ballpark.  I would think that has got to torment a player- does it ruin his future career?  I don’t know, but that’s got to be tough.  I had to stop watching MLB and ESPN after it happened- hate to see that ..Wonder how he coped with it, was he able to put that behind him?

  28. A report said that TEX was impressed with how lean he looked at their recent Dallas meeting. Weight might not be an issue by contract’s signing.

    Drug and injury issues? One team gave Jayson Werth $126M based on one good season and a lot of decent platoon work. If I were GM (which I’m not), I’d be more worried about his injury issues than any personal issues he might have. He wouldn’t be the only MLBer to have off the field issues…and I’m sure his Saturday nights didn’t compare to what Mickey Mantle would do every night of the week.

  29. Rangersfan32 3 years ago

    So you’ve personally tested Hamilton and found him to have “brittle bones”? Funny how a professional teams doctors and experts have found nothing of concern for Hamilton the past two times we’ve signed him…

  30. Umm…it was accident. They happen, unfortunately. From the little I know about him, Josh Hamilton seemingly is built tougher than most to deal with his own personal demons from his past (i.e. drugs, alcohol, etc.). The highlight of his life should have been an overall #1 selection in the draft, but by sheer tenacity and a lot of persistence, he’s become a MVP and catalyst to a World Series contender. As tough as it is to know he had anything to do in someone’s death, however accidental it may have been, I’m sure he’ll be able to get through it like he has in his past. 

  31. For Hamilton? Really? I’d think he’d get more than Werth’s deal. He’s a much better player and will have a better career, even if at only 130 games per season.

  32. Yankees420 3 years ago

    Mickey Mantle snorted cocaine and smoked crack?  

  33. jjs91 3 years ago

    Werth had 3 good years in a row, that were better what hamilton did last year. It’s Hamilton that has that had that one great season

  34. GeoKaplan 3 years ago

    Re: Fielder–a lot of girls lose weight before Prom. No matter how he looked when he was out auditioning for a deal guaranteeing $20m a year for 6-10 years, I’d recall how huge he has looked during past seasons when he should have played himself into shape.

  35. No. I was being facetious. 

  36. Mcgrupp81 3 years ago

    He has tried to get the tattoos removed, but the removal process was so painful, he couldn’t go through with it. The person who spoke about the knee problems hit it on the  head. Hamilton will be turning 32 in May, meaning he will be playing the first year of his contract as a 33 year old. Sounds like an AL team would sign him to a 5 year deal and that’s all. Like most of these long term contracts to 30+ players, you have to accept that you’ll pay full price for the diminshed player in the last years of the contract.

  37. Yankees420 3 years ago

    Ahh, ok.  If only we could see tone of voice when reading comments….

  38. Yankees420 3 years ago

    Ahh, ok.  If only we could see tone of voice when reading comments….

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