AL West Notes: Abreu, Uehara, Manny

The AL West saw no shortage of action this offseason, with notables Albert Pujols, Yu Darvish and Yoenis Cespedes joining the ranks, but the division may yet make a few more transactions headlines before Opening Day. Here's the latest …

  • Angels outfielder/DH Bobby Abreu told Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportesLosAngeles.com that he'd like to be traded if he's not assured of an everyday role this season — this after Halos skipper Mike Scioscia said Sunday that Abreu will split time at DH with Mark Trumbo and/or Kendrys Morales. GM Jerry Dipoto responded by saying Abreu has "no right" to issue an ultimatum, according to Alden Gonzalez of MLB.com.
  • Rangers GM Jon Daniels said Texas has no trades in the works right now, including any involving releiver Koji Uehara, and still has no plans to sign right-hander Roy Oswalt, according to T.R. Sullivan of MLB.com. Uehara has long been rumored to be on the trade block.
  • Athletics GM Billy Beane said there are no guarantees for DH Manny Ramirez, recently signed to a minor league contract, beyond Day 1, tweets Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle. Beane also told reporters, including Jane Lee of MLB.com, that signing Manny was strictly a baseball decision — not for PR — and that "we couldn't come up with a reason not to sign him" (Twitter links).


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59 Comments on "AL West Notes: Abreu, Uehara, Manny"


3 years 6 months ago

I coulda sworn that C.J. Wilson was already in the AL West…

Jose Herrera
3 years 6 months ago

 Dude he was, he ditched us (rangers) because he knew he had sucked recently in playoff play and he knew we were interested in Yu Darvish.

3 years 6 months ago

I’m sorry .. didn’t your whole team suck recently in playoff play? .. 1 strike X 2 opportunities = Rangers are the Buffalo Bills of baseball ..

Josh_21
3 years 6 months ago

Where were the angels in 2010 and 2011? Oh… That’s right.. At home playing as the rangers in MLB 2k11 and crying to themselves while eating Bon Bons lol and just so you know ANGELS=SAN ANTONIO SPURS OF BASEBALL and will probably suffer the same fate. Good regular season and blowup in the playoffs and get beat by either the Detroit Tigers and or the Tampa Bay Rays

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

1 ws vs 0. scoreboard.

Devon Henry
3 years 6 months ago

You represent Ranger fans so well.

Nick Sossamon
3 years 6 months ago

Pulling out the bon bons reference from about fifteen years ago, nice.  And you basically described the Rangers with your Angels description, since you still haven’t done anything in the playoffs to result in a World Series title (which the Angels actually have one of). 

3 years 6 months ago

Sarcasm is a delicate art, Jose.

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 6 months ago

 He didn’t “ditch” you the Front Office didn’t want to bring him back at market rate. (understandably so).

3 years 6 months ago

Good for Bobby, he still has something left to offer to a team (OBP) and the Angels just don’t have a spot for him. This needs to happen, that would free up the 5th outfield spot for a Jeremy Moore.

johnsilver
3 years 6 months ago

No offense.. But he offers pretty much the same as Damon does at this point of his career and we don’t see teams clamoring to give him even a couple of million.

Abreu has had a good career, but it will be rough moving his contract.

bjsguess
3 years 6 months ago

Rough = impossible.

Unless the Angels kick in $4m or take on a bad deal Abreu isn’t going anywhere.

If he really wants to be moved then he should give back $4m. Otherwise Bobby isn’t guaranteed to get a single AB. If there are better players on the roster (which there are) Bobby should be sitting on the bench.

rizdak
3 years 6 months ago

Granted, Halos may have to kick in $$ but nothing’s impossible. Just ask Abreu’s BP buddy Vernon Wells.

seanb1223
3 years 6 months ago

Yeah, but the Angels can’t trade him to the Angels, so he ain’t goin anywhere without abundant salary relief.

bjsguess
3 years 6 months ago

I took “moving his contract” to mean that a team would absorb all of his contract. Goes without saying that if the Angels picked up the entire tab or even most of the tab that teams would be interested in him.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

Abreu is obviously on his last leg and Pujols obviously makes the lineup better but when you look at Abreu’s 2011 it’s hard to say he DOESN’T belong in the lineup.

Among players w/ at least 100 AB:

2nd in OBP at .353
1st in BB% at 13%
3rd in SB with 21

It’s better to say that it’s more difficult to move Wells and his hellish contract than it is to move Abreu so Abreu is the more expendable of the two. The BEST LA lineup should be…

PB, Hunter and Trout w/ Morales (if healthy) @ DH or replaced by Abreu if he starts the year on the DL.

Nick Sossamon
3 years 6 months ago

Yeah, those stats might be good for someone that can actually field a position.  Or for someone that can actually hit LHP (.319 OBP and .270 SLG vs. LHP)  For a DH he is wasting at bats considering the plethora of other options (Morales, Trumbo, Hunter and Wells on off days, etc.).

He is valuable as a reserve or as a pinch hitter or runner off the bench, but that’s about it at this point.  The guy can’t field for beans, and there’s tons of DH options out there nowadays on the open market.  For him to be complaining about a bench role while making $9MM is fairly ludicrous at this point in his career. 

seanb1223
3 years 6 months ago

Thank you. One of the best comments I’ve ever read on this site.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

My guess is, the money matters to fans, and to potential teams he might be traded to. I’m 99% sure that Abreu probably just wants to play everyday seeing as how he obviously knows he’s at the end of his career. If he were a free agent and team “A” said I can offer you $5 mil but can’t guarantee you will play 100 games and team “B” said I can give you $1 mil guaranteed plus incentives but you will be my everyday DH and see some time in the field I’m 99% sure Abreu would take the $1 mil and playing time. 

It’s easy to say he should just shut up and sit on the bench but if anything, I admire the fact that he wants to earn his pay on the field playing in as many games as possible. I worry more about the guy w/o the fire in his belly.

bjsguess
3 years 6 months ago

You left out SLG, OPS, UZR, etc. 

Bobby still does a good job of drawing a walk and catching pitchers snoozing when he’s on first. There is value there it’s just not great value. Trumbo, Morales (if healthy) and even Wells offer better options at this stage than Abreu.

That said, if the team is only going to get $2-4m in salary relief I would probably just keep him. 

brian310
3 years 6 months ago

It would be surprising knowing that the Yanks already dealt Burnett to the Pirates….

EightMileCats
3 years 6 months ago

How long does Abreu have left on his deal? If its only 1 year I wouldn’t mind the Tigers swinging something. We could use a DH for the year while Vmart mends

inleylandwetrust
3 years 6 months ago

Filling the DH spot (especially with a guy like Abreu who is pretty much strictly a DH at this point) would be a huge mistake. That spot needs to be left open in case Cabrera is not able to play a passable 3B. 

EightMileCats
3 years 6 months ago

Fair enough. I just don’t want to see Kelly DHing

EightMileCats
3 years 6 months ago

Fair enough. I just don’t want to see Kelly DHing

OrangeCards
3 years 6 months ago

 You’ve already got a DH. He’s just playing third base.

– Mark Reynolds

East Coast Bias
3 years 6 months ago

I can’t believe Roy Oswalt still has not signed. It’s almost March!

NathanielS
3 years 6 months ago

Bye Bobby.

Stl_Great
3 years 6 months ago

I love Manny, but I could come up with a couple reasons not to sign him.

thebigbangdito
3 years 6 months ago

Ya but think moneyball 2.0 lol… they give him 500k.. big loss?- no…. say he plays those last 100 games after the suspension and does decent.. the A’s arent going to be in the playoff hunt this year so manny could become a trade possibility at the deadline… in which the A’s will probably look for a prospect or something

Salmon4Coach
3 years 6 months ago

I say Manny is going to juice it one last time and A’s will trade him and Manny will call it a career or maybe do the same next year.

Josh_21
3 years 6 months ago

It’s so annoying how some of you angels fans get on here acting like your a lock to win the WS cause you got Pujols and CJ??? You were 10 games back last year. You angels fans will soon find out CJ Wilson is not what you think he is. Even in that stadium. He dosnt care about fans. All he cares about is his japanese anime and guitar hero. He’s a tool. And honestly its Pujols. You paid a man 25 million a year till he’s almost 45. And his numbers are declining. Every year. Soon you will be paying for the name rather than the stats. Rangers are still a better offensive team so whatever happens, happens. But until then rangers are the back to back AL Champs and arguably the best team in the American league until proved otherwise.

inleylandwetrust
3 years 6 months ago

Ummm…where in this section has ANYBODY said anything about the Angels being a lock for the world series? And Pujols wasn’t even mentioned once…

abes_seed
3 years 6 months ago

It will be a great race… It was pretty close last year til the last 2 weeks. Rangers offense is definitely better, one of the best in baseball, but pitching is a whole different story. Angels have 4 strong pitchers. 2 great pitchers. It will be a good race. Glad to see some competition in the west.

Halosfan777
3 years 6 months ago

Hahaha no one said anything about us being a lock for the World Series. In fact, no one in here made any sort of prediction towards next season. Don’t act like CJ isn’t a good pitcher either. We didn’t sign him to be our number 1. He’s our number 3. Meanwhile you criticize the Pujols signing, but the Rangers go and sign an unproven pitcher for over 100+ mil. I’m not here to tell you that the Angels will win the west, or that the Rangers are bad…but you can’t have it all one way. What’s actually annoying here is the Rangers fans that suddenly think that 2 good seasons = 27 championships.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

I would say the Angels have lots of reasons to be optimistic. A rotation of Haren, Weaver, Wilson and Santana is fantastic. An offense with Pujols, Hunter, a potentially healthy Morales, Bourjos, Trout, Trumbo, Callaspo, Kendric, Wells and Abreu can score some runs.

How much crazier is it to minimize Wilson but then assume Darvish is going to be a world beater? 

On opening day, anything you did in 2011 becomes meaningless.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 6 months ago

Its funny how no Angel fan is saying that we will be champs we are just excited to have the best player in baseball on our team and to have a starting 4 that can match any 4 in baseball. Haters be hating it’s all good

Salmon4Coach
3 years 6 months ago

Its funny how no Angel fan is saying that we will be champs we are just excited to have the best player in baseball on our team and to have a starting 4 that can match any 4 in baseball. Haters be hating it’s all good

bjsguess
3 years 6 months ago

As others have pointed out nobody here is breaking open the bubbly for the Angels. That said here are some interesting points:

— CJ Wilson was worth 5 wins last season. That’s 5 wins that the Angels now have and the Rangers do not (net swing of 10 wins). Sure Yu and Neftali may turn out. Then again it wouldn’t be shocking if neither lived up to the hype.

— Albert Pujols dealt with nagging injuries all last year and he still was a better offensive player than anyone on the Rangers. Who cares what the team will be paying him in 2022. We are talking about NOW. Those 5-7 wins will be huge.

— Look at the difference in value between Mathis and Iannetta. I’ll save you the time (2011 Ianetta was worth 3.3 WAR while Mathis was worth -1.0). That’s a 4 win upgrade.

— Consider what happens if Morales returns to 2009/2010 form. Or if Vernon Wells remembers how to hit (one year removed from a 30+ HR season) or when Mike Trout gets his call up.

— Consider what happens when Mike Napoli comes back to earth (wOBA of 444 was 50 points higher than his career peak and 75 points higher than his career average).

— The Angels were around 3 games back with 2 weeks to go. From Sept 10th to the end of the season the Angels went 6-11 while the Rangers played out of their minds at 14-2. The Angels went cold and the Rangers went hot over the last 10% of the season. Aside from that they had virtually the same results.

I’ll give the Rangers their due. It’s no small accomplishment to make it to the World Series in back to back years. However, that has little bearing on how 2012 will shake out. If things break right for the Halos they could be a 100 win team (Pujols and Wilson play well, Morales returns to 2009 form, Wells hits like 2010, Trout makes a big splash, etc). Meanwhile the Rangers could easily slip to 80 wins if things go horribly wrong. Point is, both are very similar teams in terms of talent. What will determine the winner is most likely injuries and who progresses/regresses more than expected.

Josh_21
3 years 6 months ago

I’m talking about mr Angels guy up there talking noise already. And he has the Pujols jersey as his photo and we can assume that he thinks Pujols is the savior to take LA to the WS. And I’m surprised he’s not talking about beating your team too! He’s the kinda guys that give angels fans a bad look. By the way hell of an ALCS dude lol tigers are looking good this year with prince miggy and verlander

3 years 6 months ago

You are to replies what the Rangers are to World Series rings.

slider32
3 years 6 months ago

I could see Abreu being traded in spring training, maybe to the Giants.

ellisburks
3 years 6 months ago

As a pinch hitter? He should never wear a glove.

Awesome Anahiem Angels
3 years 6 months ago

Abreu and wells for price prospect

alex razo
3 years 6 months ago

somebody has to say this the angels really did not need albert pujols.

johnsilver
3 years 6 months ago

I wouldn’t say that now…

Boston and the NYY have the other 2 best all around 1B in the game and imagine THEY would both say they would “need” an upgrade to Pujols even.. not pay what Anaheim did perhaps, but he is a definite upgrade over both Tex and Agone and those 2 are the 2nd and 3rd best all around 1b in the game if one considers offense + glove, age etc..

3 years 6 months ago

except looking beyond 2012

no one knew if Morales was going to play again
Hunter’s contract is up
Abreu’s contract is up
Wells was awful last year

So having an outfield of Trout, Bourjos, Trumbo with Wells at DH and Pujols at 1B for 2013 is not only possible, it’s likely.

HolaAmigas
3 years 6 months ago

So Blue Jays…the Angels took Wells off of your hands, want Abreu? :(

FrnchDp
3 years 6 months ago

If that is indeed his mind-set, then he might as well retire. Who is going to want to sign him if he has a “I don’t care if I play or not” attitude?

3 years 6 months ago

Awww shucks. Thanks for the clarification, Mrs. Oswalt. Do you think he’ll wanna come outside and play next year?

johnsilver
3 years 6 months ago

It’s not unheard of you know to only feel like playing if you feel like it, or just 1 team.. Want examples of both?

Roger Clemens and his half year deals at the end.
Schill (curt Schilling) at the end was Boston or bust, same with Wake and there are numerous other players who wanted to just play for a certain team at the end.

Paul Byrd was an example of a half year guy, who just wanted to play the 2nd half of the season his last year and didn’t have any intention of signing a deal over the winter of 08-09 to spend the early part of the summer with his family.

I respect him a lot more now for his wishes (oswalt) now that fully understand these are his intentions and probably were all along.

johnsilver
3 years 6 months ago

It’s not unheard of you know to only feel like playing if you feel like it, or just 1 team.. Want examples of both?

Roger Clemens and his half year deals at the end.
Schill (curt Schilling) at the end was Boston or bust, same with Wake and there are numerous other players who wanted to just play for a certain team at the end.

Paul Byrd was an example of a half year guy, who just wanted to play the 2nd half of the season his last year and didn’t have any intention of signing a deal over the winter of 08-09 to spend the early part of the summer with his family.

I respect him a lot more now for his wishes (oswalt) now that fully understand these are his intentions and probably were all along.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 6 months ago

He will do what Pedro Martinez did. 

FrnchDp
3 years 6 months ago

I suppose that’s true.. and some teams don’t mind that attitude as long as the guy comes to play.  I think in the case of the Giants, we’ve learned what team chemistry can do, and that those with poor attitudes need not apply (Rowand and Tejada…)

FrnchDp
3 years 6 months ago

I have less respect for players who want to wait and see which teams do well enough before they sign for a half season with greater odds to make the playoffs.  Sorry.. but part of the 162 is the wear and tear, grinding of being part of a team and trying to achieve the postseason.

I didn’t say it was unheard of – I know it happens, and that’s their call, and teams will sign them.  I personally don’t like it.  

johnsilver
3 years 6 months ago

“I have less respect for players who want to wait and see which teams do well enough before they sign”

Can understand that aspect also and off the top of my head again… Clemens is the only one who comes to mind.. Remember? he encouraged a bidding war..

Byrd was willing to go to the Tribe or boston, then he was pretty much done for.. A 4-5SP at best..

johnsilver
3 years 6 months ago

pardon… I always seem to forget about that young man…

Something about Votto that he ALWAYS slips my mind when am making that 2-3 and seem to leave him out and yep..he’s better than tex on the all around end, not with the glove, but better all around.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 6 months ago

Which contracts are you talking about?

Salmon4Coach
3 years 6 months ago

Well there was more than one contract i was just making sure. And i think there good contracts and should take the Angels to an entire new level for many years to come.