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MauerPower
This is the guy the Twins need to trade for and extend. There will be a lot of outfielders coming up through the system in the next few years, and we will not have space for all of them. We can replace Denard Span easier than drafting and developing an elite closer.
Guest 4733
apparently your gm didn’t agree last july
MauerPower
Last July, our GM was Bill Smith, the guy who traded Johan Santana for practically nothing. I’m sure it won’t happen, but a Storen-Span trade could work out really well for both teams.
FS54 2
Doesn’t Span has some concussion issues? Anyways I love Drew Storen but if we could have drafted Trout back in 09, we wouldn’t be looking for a CF now.
LazerTown
if you could redo drafts, so many teams would pick differently. But personally i think that you should pick the player that has the best shot at being a solid ml player. a good closer can always be flipped later for several top prospects.
FS54 2
You are right but I think Storen’s pick was more like a safe bet signing than anything else after the Crow debacle the year before.
DunkinDonuts
They caught the “proscribed” error before I could fire off an angry letter.
Dan Mennella
Writing w/o the benefit of an editor reading behind you is a dirty game.
Colin Christopher
I think Storen is slightly overrated, but your research is solid so I guess I’d have to admit that those numbers seem about right for a Storen extension.
By the way…in your phrase, “…lightening bolts for right arms,” it’s “lightning”, not “lightening.”
Amish_willy
I dunno, I think it’s a ton of money to guarantee a relief pitcher’s arbitration years, which is all the 4/22-24m guarantee would cover, due to his being a Super-2 after 2012. Neither Bailey or Lidge were Super-2’s, they had 3 full seasons under their belts when the first hit arbitration, not to mention better numbers:
Lidge after ’05 – 160 era+, 12.8 k/9
Bailey now – 206 era+, 9 k/9
Storen now – 128 era+, 8.7k/9
I’m kindof confused by this piece. If Storen gets 22-24m for his four arbitration years, is he really leaving 10-12m on the table?? He’s a very nice young closer, but he hasn’t really done anything eye popping to warrant that financial gamble that wouldn’t even cover a single free agent year. I would punt this idea for atleast a year or two. The deal would be bigger if they are still talking extension at that time, but atleast it would involve additional control years.
Dan Mennella
I agree that Storen isn’t necessarily better than any of those guys, but the stats you’ve cited aren’t important in arbitration hearings.
Four years of arbitration eligibility is going to make a big difference for Storen in the long run. If he starts out with a 2013 salary of $4MM and earns raises of $2-3MM per year each year thereafter, he could be looking at salaries in the range of $10MM and $12MM in his final two years.
For reference, Papelbon earned $27.6MM over his three arbitration years, and he wasn’t even a Super Two.
Amish_willy
Point being, any team giving Storen that kind of money on a guaranteed deal is a bad precedent for a team to make. Yes, Papelbon earned 27.6m over his three arbitration years, but he also did it going year-to-year versus a pre-arbitration extension, not to mention a far sexier resume.
I get the extensions buying out only arbitration years for guys like Votto & Lincecum & to a lesser extent Sandoval & Andrus, but Storen’s extension would need some free agent option years (and not at Papelbon’s FA going rate) to go with a lower guarantee then suggested for it to be a prudent move from the teams standpoint. At this juncture, what are the odds Storen is his same self in four years time? 50% higher, lower? Being able to go year-to-year on him isn’t a bad spot to be in at all. It’s not like they won’t have the ability to lock him up in two years time. Yeah it’d cost more money, but then again the deal would be covering different years, thus keeping him longer (if he does continue on his path). Closers can go from elite to afterthought’s faster then any other position, and it’s not even close. Whose to say Storen’s next several years don’t unfold ala Gagne or Broxton, and again I don’t even think were begining on that level of dominance.
Dan Mennella
I don’t disagree with your premise, but this is the game of chicken played by teams and their young players. The Rays got Longo well below market value, but if his knee blows out tomorrow, then that won’t be the case anymore.
The Nats could go year-to-year with Storen, but he will get very expensive in his last two years of arbitration eligibility, at which point it will be even harder to trade him for something of value because the acquiring team won’t want to pay much for a reliever who’s bound to drag them through arb for 10 or 12 mil.
LUWahooNatFan
Lock him and up and the Nationals complete a great combo at the back end of the bullpen(Clip and Store another Curly W)
If his slider continues to develop like it did last year he could be an elite closer down the road, like what I’ve seen from him the past few years though
Brian McKeever
I just want to know who exactly would STILL question picking Storen at #10, given that he has turned out to be at least a borderline potential all star, and became a major contributor to the team a year after he was drafted. How many guys drafted where he was or even higher never even MAKE the Majors?
Storen currently has the third highest career WAR of any player drafted in the 1st round in 2009, even better than Strasburg.
Dan Mennella
If you question the process rather than the result …
MetsMagic
I question it. If the draft was done in hindsight, every first rounder would be a star and the Pirates would’ve set themselves up for a dynasty. A lot of the pitchers taken after Storen had their stock fall (James, Matzek) but I can guarantee you no team is trading Shelby Miller, Mike Trout, or Nick Franklin for Storen.