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James Coughlin
Jacoby Ellsbury is a boss!
WonderboyRooney10
Ugh Scott Boras….this man could sell a snowball to the devil. I feel like hes hitting the market.
James Coughlin
Saux will be a little gun shy about dishing out money like that for a speed guy again. Ultimately I think they’ll work something out.
Chaim Breslow's Purse
Ellsbury > Crawford
Dennis
One great year from Ellsbury, and I’ll bet that was a “I’ll show you” year, so I wouldn’t get all jiggy about a new contract at big bucks—-just yet.
notsureifsrs
yeah, i bet he was just swinging harder or something
Cincinnati Reds
Ohh Chip…
James Coughlin
O and A fan?
Chaim Breslow's Purse
I would. Certainly his power numbers will be way down this year, but he’ll still have a high average and steal a ton of bases. As long as he stays healthy, he’ll be a guy who’s worth every penny.
bobbybaseball
I don’t know that we can automatically assume his power numbers will be down this year just ‘cuz the prediction systems say so – it’s not like they are infallable. Maybe he took ‘roids, maybe he finally figured it out…whatever, he did it last year so maybe he can do it again. If he does, that will be one heckuva contract…
Bob 40
I think that Ellsbury and Boras will use the sox as leverage. Ellsbury will probably act like he’s serious about staying and sign elsewhere. No clue where he would want to go but from everything I’ve read he has never been happy with Boston. One can only speculate that the current circus will only get worse with Valentine as manager. In the end, he may be fed up so much that he will give a discount to any team who is at least reasonably close to the sox offer.
bobbybaseball
He will go where the most money is like most free agents.
diesel2410
Sorry Ellsbury, last year was a fluke, but knowing the Sox, they’ll pay you like you can do that every year
chrisn313
I can’t wait to watch $20 mill per get eaten up by a guy like this- an amazing year still only bumped his career line to .301/.354/.452, which is good but not for that price. Even at CF
Chaim Breslow's Purse
Small sample size. He missed much of two years with injuries.
MaineSox
Like they did with Pedroia, and Youkilis, and Lester, and Buchholz, and Papelbon right?
johnsilver
Exactly.. The extensions they have signed with their own drafted players have all been to the teams favor.
notsureifsrs
If he puts up another 30-homer season, agent Scott Boras will argue that Ellsbury is now a proven four-tool threat
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MB923
I assume you’re leaving out the arm part of it? (Can’t be speed, defense or contact of course)
MaineSox
If he puts up another 30-homer season, agent Scott Boras will argue that Ellsbury is now a proven five-tool threat.
So they likely had it right…
notsureifsrs
oh, right. accounting for the boras factor, i’ll edit my edit:
If he puts up another 30-homer season, agent Scott Boras will argue that Ellsbury is now a proven fourteen-tool threat
NYBravosFan10
Unless the Red Sox come through big time, Boras will have this guy in free agency.
DunkinDonuts
Logically, he has four tools at most, but you have to account for who his agent is. Scott Boras will put together a manifesto explaining that, when a player’s other four tools are as solid as Jacoby Ellsbury’s, the mere fact that he HAS a left arm justifies paying him as a five-tool guy. Heck, he’ll probably even include a few Glamour Shots and pitch Ellsbury as a six-tool player.
AmericanMovieFan
I don’t get it. ONE amazing season and he’s suddenly worth $20MM a year over 2/3’s of a decade? I’ll admit, he has a solid average, great base running numbers- but when do those drop out?- and last year’s power was undeniable…But maybe lets see if he can repeat it? Sox are in a weird position- he’s gonna get paid. But does he get paid that hometown discount price of around $8MM a season like so many before him, such as Youk, Pedroia, etc. or does he try to duplicate last year and land big money? I mean, folks; Youkilis put up nearly identical numbers once upon a time and barely got more than $10MM per season for his efforts, though that was partly as a hometown discount out of respect for the Sox. Anyway, I really don’t think this kid is automatically worth a $100MM contract. Lets wait and see.
Raymond
The point is that practically every other team in baseball WILL think he’s worth that…and if the Sox wont pay him…I’m sure the Yankees will!!As far as the Youkilis comparison…apples and oranges…Matt Kemp is a much better comparison of Ellsbury’s skillset…
johnsilver
Schilling had some words about Ells also when he dumped his original agent after his 1st season and went to Boras that gives you a better idea:
“I don’t understand Ellsbury. The kid was as pure as snow and has sold his soul” Or something to that regard.
Can’t see Ellsbury taking much (if any) of a hometown discount after he dumped his original agent when he only played in the majors for a couple months, did very well and dumped his original agent for Boras.. The man has $$$ on his mind and had since the start as Schill said over that winter.
Miguel Arias
Boras Client, no discount.
Steve_in_MA
With all due respect to Mr. Polishuk, the Ellsbury situation is currently a hybrid of where Gonzalez was when he extended and where Kemp was when he extended. Gonzalez had some years left before F/A. Ells has 2. Gonzalez had a single year of MVP-like performance. Ells does too. Kemp is a proven player over the long-haul. Ells is not. Ells has a strong probability of regressing off of his MVP-like year. Gonzalez did so. Kemp has remained a fairly consistent high-level performer. I would say, right now, the balance is 60% Gonzalez, 40% Kemp. A well constructed extension offer for Ells would be $13MM for Arb Yr. 3 (2013), $15MM for F/A Yrs. 1 & 2 (2014 & 2015) and $20MM for F/A Yrs. 3, 4 & 5 (2016, 2017 & 2018), with a team option for 2019 at $22MM. That’s 6 years at $103MM, possibly 7 at $125MM.
optionn
If a bum like Zimmerman gets a $100 million then Ellsbury will get 9 figures too. He is not taking any discount nor should he. The economics of today is crazy in how much guaranteed money these guys get.
Jeffrey C Ditmer
sox should wait and let market develop. if he gets injured again hell be labeled as injuryriddled like sizemore and thus be a discount
BoSox Fan 1950
The only fly in this ointment is Boras. Were it not for him I would be very confident that the Red Sox would make an offer to Ellsbury that would make everyone happy, including Red Sox Nation. Boras is such a greedy dirt bag that he pushes all his clients to become free agents.
My sincere hopes are that Ellsbury has another fantastic season and signs a huge contract extension with the Red Sox after we win this year’s World Series.
mitch l.
yay or nay 40/40 for Ellsbury in 2012?
pft2
After the way he was treated by the Red Sox in 2010, why would he want to commit to staying in Boston. Boras of course will not be recommending any extensions.
Assuming he does not believe 2011 was a fluke and he feels healthy, he will do far better if he becomes a FA after 2 years than signing an extensions.
Ellsbury should not consider any offer less than Crawfords 7 yr 142 million deal.
The Red Sox may not be able to afford him. They are up against the luxury tax, have to build a new 400 million dollar stadium for Liverpool, and now these child abuse victims are going to want a big pay off.
boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2012/03…