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David Nüssbaum III
Volstad a better value than Zambrano? Lol, you’ve clearly never seen Volstad pitch. Basically Zambrano’s worst season is still better than Volstad’s prime season. AND we got the Cubbies to pay for the majority of the contract. That trade clearly favored the Fish.
GREGM
I couldn’t agree more…i laughed when I read that. Volstad the better pitcher…ha! The head scratcher was the comment if you ask me…
martinfv2
Volstad was better in 2011. Zambrano: not an innings guy, not a strikeout guy, not a control guy, not a groundball guy, not a velocity guy, not a clubhouse guy. On which aspect of Z am I wrong?
GREGM
Volstad also is none of the above, only noted mainly as “subject to the long ball”…in Sun Life that is scary.
Additionally, Zambrano had a career low season…Volstad had a career average season at best.
That comment is like saying that Ian Desmond is a better short stop right now than Hanley Ramirez (if he were still a SS) based on last year. Desmond had career average numbers, Hanley had career lows…
Hope that helps…i think that’s where everyone’s head is going.
martinfv2
Volstad is indeed a groundball pitcher. He had a 3.84 SIERA, so if his skills stay the same that should be the expectation. I understand what people think of Zambrano, and I think the perception is too heavily influenced by ERA.
rockfordone
Pitching wins and their lack of it will hurt them. Buehrle is a .500 pitcher at best.
The Big Z comment is strange. Every GM in the bigs knows he is better than Volstad. Can’t blame Theo orders from above
GREGM
JJ is top 5 pitching talent in MLB when healthy…
Buerhle is a solid #2 on pretty much 95% of teams
Sanchez is an ace on many teams…thrown a nono and two one hitters in the past 3 years…
Big Z is one season removed from #2 pitcher stats
Nolasco is a solid inning eater with an average over 200+ innings logged and struck out nearly 8 per 9 over his career…
Where is the lack of pitching again?
Clayton Wilson
“Big Z is one season removed from #2 pitcher stats”
Maybe in terms of ERA, but his WHIP was actually higher in 2011 than it was in 2010. For some reason he was able to limit runs extremely well in the 2nd-half of 2010 despite putting quite a lot of men on base. If he can give them a 150 innings and an ERA around 4.50 they’ll be fine.
I more or less agree with you about their pitching, but they do lack SP depth and Zambrano, Sanchez, and Johnson have dealt with numerous injuries in the past(Sanchez has been durable these last two years though, but he did say recently that he pitches through pain in most of his starts). One or two of their starters go down and they could be in trouble in such a stacked division.
David Nüssbaum III
Volstad and Zambrano pretty much had the same season last yea. The difference is though, last year was likely Volstad’s peak season. If you look at Zambrano’s track record you can make a strong case that his last season was an abberation. Have fun with fly ball pitcher Volstad in that tiny play pen at Wrigley.
martinfv2
His groundball rate ranked 8th in the NL.
Jeffrey Nicola
It doesn’t matter! At least there is a somewhat chance Zambrano might go back to his old self whilst Volstad hasn’t even gone a full season pitching under 4.58.
Bryan
Tim, I really believe that Zambrano is the better pitcher. I am from Vernon Hills, Il myself, and I understand how frustrated Cubs fans became with him. However, I think that paying a guy like Zambrano $2.5 million is better than wasting a roster spot on a guy like Volstad who will probably never post an ERA under 4 again. Honestly, Volstad isn’t an innings guy either, he never pitches well enough to stay in a game past the 6th. This trade is a steal for the Fish in my eyes. They unloaded a pitcher with little upside and got a guy who is entering a contract year needing to prove himself, and they let the Cubs pay his contract. That’s just my opinion though…
LUWahooNatFan
Marlins dished out quite a bit of money this off-season, whether the investments will pay out is yet to be determined… Marlins are only two injuries(Johnson and Reyes) away from finishing near the bottom of the East
GREGM
Sippin’ the Haterade as usual huh? Always hatin’ on the fish…
Alot of teams are in that same boat…difference is JJ and Reyes out Marlins are still head and shoulders above the Mets.
Take Strasburg and RZimm out and you too are in trouble, especially considering the minor differences between the Braves, Phils, Fish, and Nats.
Clayton Wilson
Yep, so many injury risks among key players for those 4 teams. If Utley misses significant time, there really isn’t much of a difference between those 4 on paper.
David Nüssbaum III
I think the Mets pretty much have the bottom of the East locked up. And as for the injury comment, I’m pretty sure every team is an injury or two away from being near the bottom of the division (see Chipper, Hayward; Utley, Howard; Strasburg).
Reaper87
I can’t think of another team whose best case scenario and worst case scenario (barring major injuries to multiple stars) varies so much. I wouldn’t be surprised if this team stays healthy and relatively drama-free and wins 100+ games, and it wouldn’t shock me either if a couple injuries and way too much drama hamstrings them into only winning 84. This team is a huge wild card this season and I can’t wait to see how it plays out. So much talent and so many headcases
John Berry
they are both horrible pitchers..