Quick Hits: Royals, Heyward, Diamondbacks

On this date 25 years ago Andre Dawson signed a one-year, $650K contract with the Cubs. Owners were colluding against players at the time, and Dawson had even offered the Cubs a blank check earlier that winter. Dawson would go on to win the 1987 NL MVP, though the Cubs finished last in the NL East that year. Here are today's links…


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58 Comments on "Quick Hits: Royals, Heyward, Diamondbacks"


Member
3 years 4 months ago

Why do the DBacks need a catcher?

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

If they can’t sign Montero to an extension, I’ve heard (don’t have any personal knowledge) that there’s nobody in the system capable of taking over the everyday job next year.

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

This is true. While Konrad Schmidt is their highest catching prospect, he’s no better than a backup and should not start any time soon.

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BrettLawrieBiggestFan
3 years 4 months ago

So who do we need/want from the Diamondbacks?

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3 years 4 months ago

Well, if it was D’Arnaud you’d have to imagine it would be Skaggs or Bauer the Jays would ask for in return, otherwise they’d just move on.

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Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 4 months ago

A d’Arnaud for Bauer straight up swap I kind of like as a baseball fan, but I don’t see the Blue Jays liking that deal, and the Diamondbacks even less.

Arencibia+, and maybe even another +, I can envision being in the realm of possibility next off-season if Aaron Cibia can maintain his power while improving his OBP somewhat dramatically, and his defense very dramatically.

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FriedCalamari
3 years 4 months ago

Wouldn’t that make Arencibia an all-star catcher then?

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

I think the Dbacks would trade multiple prospects for Arencibia. Probably Pollock/Eaton and like Brewer/Corbin/Holmberg. I don’t think they will trade Bauer/Skaggs for anything other than a whole load of prospects.

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3 years 4 months ago

Don’t see why the Jays would trade Arencibia for a package of lower prospects, if D’Arnaud actually does push him out.  They’d either want top end guys or big league talent.

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Vin23
3 years 4 months ago

According to My research and WGN telecasts, Dawson’s fill in the amount contract was accepted and a salary of $500,000 was written in, not $650,000. Edit: there was a $250,000 bonus if he made the all-star team (which he did) that brought the value of the contract to $750,000

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Lanidrac
3 years 4 months ago

Heyward has always been overrated. Even in his rookie year, he was a disappointment compared to his pre-season buzz and only barely deserved the Rookie of the Year award over Jaime Garcia.

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AVL_BRAVE
3 years 4 months ago

Heyward was not a dissapointment as a rookie. A 20yr old kid with an OPS of .850. and furthermore he was 2nd in ROY voting to Posey.

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Lanidrac
3 years 3 months ago

People were expecting him to hit over .300 with around 25 HRs and an OPS of around .900.

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

 Um…Jason Heyward posted a .393 OBP with a .456 SLG as a 20 year old rookie.  That’s incredible.

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

You’re right. Any 20 year old can hit .277/.393/.456… derp. 

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

Age 19 .264/.329/.420  16 HR 16 SB
Age 20 .277/.393/.465  18 HR 11 SB

One player is Ken Griffey Jr., the other is Jason Heyward. Figure out which.

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Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 4 months ago

And Brady Anderson hit 50 home runs once.

My point is comparing two players on one season’s performance is a waste of time.

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

Look at Heyward’s entire career before that season as well then, as my point was there is no genuine way to say Heyward was pure hype and not meritorious of a 2nd place finish for ROY (Griffey Jr. finished 3rd his rookie year btw)

And when you’re talking about ROY, by definition you’re only able to use that season, so not much I can do about that.

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AVL_BRAVE
3 years 4 months ago

Comparing any current player to Brady Anderson’s one incredibly juiced season is a waste of time.

Comparing 2 very young and talented rookie seasons is actually a very good concept. Very few players make it to the bigs being 20 or younger, not to mention put up numbers like those!

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Colin Christopher
3 years 4 months ago

Is comparing two players on one season’s performance as much of a waste of time as judging one player on one season’s performance?

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rainyperez
3 years 4 months ago

I agree the hype machine for him was too great. 

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$3866193
3 years 4 months ago

 lol wat.

Heyward’s rookie year was great.  His 91 BB were the third-most by a rookie since 1960. Heyward’s 5.1 WAR bested Posey’s 4.0 and Garcia’s 3.1.  His OBP was nearly .40 higher than any other rookie with 100+ games played.  He led rookies in OBP, BB%, and was in the top 5 of most all categories.

If that’s a disappointment, what were the expectations?  2001 Bonds?  Heyward has a lot of work to do to get back to his 2010 form, let alone progress beyond it.  But the raw talent was there. 

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AVL_BRAVE
3 years 4 months ago

Raw talent and upside have never been doubted, IMO. My only fear is his health…

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Clayton Wilson
3 years 4 months ago

 The shoulder worries me a bit, his reputation as a ‘health risk’ is a little overblown imo. He is a massive guy and he’s gonna have aches and pains, but what sidelined him in 2010 was a complete fluke injury sliding headfirst and all but crushing his thumb.

I don’t expect an MVP-caliber season out of him this year, but I do think he can get back to at least his 2010 form assuming his shoulder is fully healed.

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AVL_BRAVE
3 years 4 months ago

He needs to slide feet first. Too big of a man to throwing himself headfirst into the bag….

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Clayton Wilson
3 years 4 months ago

 Yeah, I admire how hard he plays……but two DL stints in your first two seasons, it’s probably best to cut that out. Doesn’t give you much of an advantage anyway….

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Lanidrac
3 years 3 months ago

I said compared to his pre-season buzz.  He deserved his spot in the RotY voting, but the way everyone has talked about him, you’d think he’d already have a .300+, 30 HR+, 100+ RBI, .900+ OPS in his career, and he’s yet to get anywhere near those numbers.

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Clayton Wilson
3 years 4 months ago

He was a 5-win player when most players his age are in AA, and despite being miserable at the plate due to a bum shoulder, he still managed almost two and a half wins in 128 games last season.

His projections coming into the 2010 season were somewhere around .250, .330, .420. with around 14 HR. He responded with a .277, .393, .456 line with 18 HR. Just because there were reports of him hitting moonshots in spring training doesn’t mean he’s going to crank 40 bombs as a 20-year-old, don’t buy into hype so much. He was voted as a starter in the All-Star game, finished a close 2nd in the ROY voting, and managed to get a few MVP votes. He exceeded expectations and was arguably the best all-around player on a playoff team….

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inleylandwetrust
3 years 4 months ago

Ugh

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MB923
3 years 3 months ago

Posey got ROTY, not Heyward

Guest
3 years 4 months ago

“…also the development of prospects Adam Eaton…”

Well there’s a phrase I didn’t expect to see ever again.