Quick Hits: Lawrie, Pujols, Hanley

Some links to tide you over until tonight's first pitch…

  • The Mariners would have traded Michael Pineda to the Blue Jays for Brett Lawrie and another prospect,Bob Elliott of the Toronto Sun reports. One executive tells Elliott that “Toronto said no at Lawrie.”
  • Angels first baseman Albert Pujols told Bob Nightengale of USA Today that he's not going to lose his edge, even after signing a massive free agent contract. "I always have that chip on my shoulder, no matter what kind of success I've had," Pujols said. He added that he wouldn't be hurt if the Cardinals assigned his former number 5 to another player.
  • Major League Baseball is on the cusp of a new era, Tom Verducci of SI.com writes. The sport is doing well thanks to extended labor peace and growing TV revenues.
  • Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen expects big things from his third baseman, Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post writes. "Hanley Ramirez has a chance to be MVP in this league," Guillen said.


Leave a Reply

44 Comments on "Quick Hits: Lawrie, Pujols, Hanley"


Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 4 months ago

They wanted a stud 3B and a prospect, got turned away and settled on a DH? Those are the Mariners for you.

Trout Almonte
3 years 4 months ago

they were under the influence of Tony Reagins

NYPOTENCE
3 years 4 months ago

They also settled on a probable Hall of fame caliber Bat.

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 4 months ago

Perhaps we should, you know, let him play a few seasons before HoF talk comes up.

I don’t direct that toward you solely. The media likes to spew nonsense on a regular basis.

Stuart Brown
3 years 4 months ago

And not only that, they gave up an intriguing piece in Campos in the Montero trade as well. Wanting Lawrie AND a prospect for Pineda seems silly when they ended up giving up Pineda AND a prospect to land Montero.

Reied
3 years 4 months ago

Mariners were DESPERATE to get rid of Pinata uhh I mean Pineda. Yankees bought broken goods.

notsureifsrs
3 years 4 months ago

unless you think trades just happen spontenously with no exploration beforehand (in which case you are weird and wrong), the fact that they tried to get lawrie+ before trading him for a top 10 overall prospect does not in any way suggest desparation

if they didn’t shop around before agreeing to the montero deal, that would seem more like desparation – and really bad business

gmenfan
3 years 4 months ago

Geez, you say being “weird and wrong” like its a bad thing.

Tyler Jedrzejak
3 years 4 months ago

If Pineda is broken goods…then ill have some broken goods hes pretty solid.

3 years 4 months ago

haha Mariners be crazy

3 years 4 months ago

Seattle has a better chance of winning the AL West this year than pulling off that trade!  AA might still be chuckling!

3 years 4 months ago

Lawrie and another prospect…? I wouldn’t trade Lawrie for Pineda straight up. Lets see, stud everyday 3rd baseman who is Canadian to boot for a 2 pitch once in every 5 day player who had horrible stats against the AL East….No. 

notsureifsrs
3 years 4 months ago

right, it’s just a given that he’s a stud everyday 3B. no question

i like lawrie a lot; he has loads of potential. but 170 PA do not make him a lock to become a stud regular. if that small sample did make a stud, pineda would be twice the stud lawrie is (and he’s not)

Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

you’re going to make a fine blue fan one day my friend. 

notsureifsrs
3 years 4 months ago

gose is going to make it tough. go trade for strasburg and i’m in

3 years 4 months ago

pineda and lawrie both have small samples, 171ip to 171pa. how does having a 9-10 record, 3.74 era and fading the second half make him “twice the stud” as lawrie with his .953 ops, 9hr, .293avg and having a great season from april-sept. plus pineda has a more disturbing injury history if you’re a fan of their respective teams.

notsureifsrs
3 years 4 months ago

because 171 PA is not equivalent to 171 IP (starts). lawrie played a quarter of a season while pineda played the whole thing

again, this is not my logic. i prefer lawrie. but if you are going to treat a 1/4 season sample as if it’s significant, a full season has to put it beyond dispute. any sample-related questions about pineda apply doubly to lawrie

Havok9120
3 years 4 months ago

 Not only that, but the second half fade myth has been debunked on Fangraphs and every major Yankee blog. The statistics just don’t back it up. His last start was the only one that showed any real decline in anything. Heck, Axisa writes here, go check out RAB.

3 years 4 months ago

When the Jays asked about Gio Gonzalez the A’s asked for Lawrie in the trade.  The Jays offered other players but the A’s said no unless Lawrie was included.  End of trades offers.  With the lack of 3b prospects in baseball Lawrie has the highest value of position prospects.  Montero doesn’t come close since the A’s turned down the Montero offer for Gio from the Yanks. 

jedicouncil
3 years 4 months ago

actually, they asked for syndergaard and thats where AA said no thanks

3 years 4 months ago

I don’t see how Albert would be hurt…. He’s an Angel now. No reason why he would care. I think it’s a awhile before anyone takes 5 though.

gmenfan
3 years 4 months ago

 I can think of 240,000,000 reasons why I wouldn’t be hurt either.

Tyler Jedrzejak
3 years 4 months ago

lol champion ^

Alex Foltz
3 years 4 months ago

guys, it’s not about the $240 million. God was really putting the Angels on his heart, remember?

gmenfan
3 years 4 months ago

 Right, right, right … how could I forget ?

God: “Hey, Albert, go with the $240M.”

3 years 4 months ago

I can’t believe the Angels let Pujols take #5! That was Mathis’ number! Ha!

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 4 months ago

The Blue Jays better get more compensation in that deal then.

proto12
3 years 4 months ago

big ups to justin froim vaughan

Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

Doesn’t hurt the mariners to ask.. Realistically if they wanted mlb ready position players, lawrie is all the jays have, unless they want thames or snider, which seemed unlikely.

Reality is montero is a better bat than lawrie, but the defensive value makes it a significant difference.  

$22264602
3 years 4 months ago

Really you’re already saying Montero has a better bat? I think It’s going to be pretty close.

notsureifsrs
3 years 4 months ago

maybe, but lawrie essentially has one year of elite hitting to his name while montero has been considered an elite bat for for 3 years or so and didn’t slow down when he got a taste of the bigs last year

jedicouncil
3 years 4 months ago

i will take lawries bat at 3rd over monteros bat at DH any day of the week, lawrie brings way more to the table than montero overall

Tyler Jedrzejak
3 years 4 months ago

you act like lawrie has 500 PA’s to his name both have small sample sizes so…

Stromalama
3 years 4 months ago

Pujols left the Cardinals. #5 is theirs to give to someone. Oh well if he’s hurt by it. Having said that, who would want to follow in those foot steps?

Tyler Jedrzejak
3 years 4 months ago

Jeff Mathis just stepped up. 

3 years 4 months ago

The Mariners should’ve dealt Pineda and Franklin to the Blue Jays for Lawrie and Felix to the Yankees for Montero, Banuelos and Betances.

Tyler Jedrzejak
3 years 4 months ago

Would the yanks give all three of those? i dont really think so, i think they tried that

3 years 4 months ago

 If you’re referring to the Mariners/Felix by saying “I think they tried that,” the Mariners have never shopped Felix. I do recall hearing the Yankees were willing to give up those three.

Madman2TX
3 years 4 months ago

Hopefully, the Cards will offer Pujols old uniform number as an honorary jersey for LeBron if he ever goes to a game in St Louis.

rsanchez1
3 years 4 months ago

Hanley (and Reyes) will have to work very hard to have a chance at MVP. They both played badly tonight.

Justin_asu
3 years 4 months ago

i had a #5 Jersey once…. oh wait I donated it charity.  I’m sure the #5 will be on the shelf for a while.  I’m sure the cards don’t want people upset due to a number being brought back out.  Remember when #51 tried to be brought out?

VegasANGELSFan
3 years 4 months ago

Ahh, Canadians and their sillily named money :p

Jamie Sayer
3 years 4 months ago

 RIP Penny, he shall almost never be missed.

DieHardMsFan
3 years 4 months ago

Because there is no real match between the two teams. Don’t get me wrong I would love to get Snider and hope that he can turn it around, but realistically I don’t think the M’s have a pitching prospect that they are willing to give up and AA would want for Snider. Unless AA will give us Snider for Ramirez…