Rangers Scouting Both Zack Greinke & Cole Hamels

With four starting pitchers on the disabled list, the Rangers are scouting both Zack Greinke and Cole Hamels prior to the trade deadline according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. In a video, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says he's heard that Rangers GM Jon Daniels "is not messing around."

Texas reportedly had a scout at Greinke's most recent start in Cincinnati. The Brewers are said to be prepared to move their ace right-hander if the two sides are unable to agree to a contract extension in the weeks leading up to the deadline. A Rangers official told MLB.com's Peter Gammons that they will not be in on Greinke, however (Twitter link).

The Phillies have yet to make Hamels available, though GM Ruben Amaro Jr. has indicated a willingness to sell if his team does not improve its performance. Morosi speculates that Rangers' prospect Mike Olt could be a fit for Philadelphia, who is looking for a long-term solution at third base.

The Rangers are currently without Derek Holland (shoulder), Colby Lewis (forearm), Alexi Ogando (groin), and Neftali Feliz (elbow). They signed Roy Oswalt as a free agent last month and he's since made two starts for Texas.


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54 Comments on "Rangers Scouting Both Zack Greinke & Cole Hamels"


Ryan Vooris
3 years 1 month ago

Hamels to Texas. Greinke to Atlanta. 

Texas over Atlanta in the World Series. 

bigpat
3 years 1 month ago

 Atlanta has to make the playoffs first, not really going to be an easy task.

I have a feeling we might be seeing Pittsburgh vs Atlanta in a one game playoff, a fitting way to try and end the curse.

Guest
3 years 1 month ago

Lol @ Pittsburgh getting a wild card spot. Sweet dreaming.

bigpat
3 years 1 month ago

 lol @ 39 home runs and 7-1-1 in their series’s this month. lol all day. lol.

Guest
3 years 1 month ago

Last time I checked the season was 6 months, not 1.

tomymogo
3 years 1 month ago

Mets, Nationals, Braves, Reds, Pirates, Giants and the dissapearing Dodgers are gonna have a battle. Cardinals maybe, but doubt it, specially without Carpenter.

Really it’s unfair for NL East teams, Phillies are getting Howard, and Halladay back and just got Utley back. Nat’s may get Drew Storen, Henry Rodriguez, and Jayson Werth back. Braves getting Peter Moylan back, and hopefully a starting pitcher like Greinke. The Marlins should improve, and the Mets are in there a game ahead of the Braves with no signs of slowing down.

tomymogo
3 years 1 month ago

I like you’re thinking but Atlanta over Texas

1980CHAMPS
3 years 1 month ago

Would that end the Rangers Buffalo Bills curse?

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

I’ll take Olt for Hamels any day!!!

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

Or Olt and Martin for Hamels and Hamels agrees to an extension prior to trade.

3 years 1 month ago

lol if you are thinking of either Martin Perez or Leonys Martin, that is never going to happen and should not ever happen. 

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

It’d be worth it of he agrees to a fair deal prior.

3 years 1 month ago

“a fair deal” lol

3 years 1 month ago

I know right? Haha soon as i read Perez i started laughing out loud.

3 years 1 month ago

 olt and Martin for hamels is the only deal i would do. i would rather take the chance of resigning him than just take a crap deal

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

Olt for Hamels isn’t a crap deal, but L Martin and Olt for Hamels is much better!

MadmanTX
3 years 1 month ago

I’d give up Olt unless Texas is dedicated to converting him to first base and getting rid of Moreland. Olt will be a great player…but Texas wants to win the World Series now.

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

If the Phillies pack it in, they could get Victorino too and Put Josh back in a corner OF spot and have a Cruz/Hamilton/Victorino OF and then sign Victorino if they can’t extend Hamilton.

I’d really like to see Phillies get Olt and a pitcher like Ross in a deal for Hamels.

MadmanTX
3 years 1 month ago

The problem there is that it wouldn’t keep Murphy’s bat in the lineup unless they DH him and I don’t see that.

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

That’s true. But a lineup of

Kinsler
Andrus
Hamilton
Beltre
Cruz
Napoli
Young
Murphy
Victorino

Would be awesome

Kurisu Rg
3 years 1 month ago

 Yes it would, but there’s no way in hell that Washington bats the Leadershippings Leader of Leadershippings Young lower than 5th.

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

Vic/Hamels for Olt and some pitching prospects.

3 years 1 month ago

 I am sorry Hamels is the top 3 lefty in baseball. to not get a top 50 prospect in return is ridiculous. CC got a 2 top 100 prospects back in return. So just getting Olt is no good. They better be sending back a top 100 pitcher back as well that is ready plus another single a prospect that has very good potential

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

Oh, I agree but the fact that there is no comp picks for losing Hamels for any team besides the Phillies hurts the value. If the Rangers offered Martin and Olt for Hamels, he would be gone yesterday. That would be the CF and 3B for the next 6 years for 1/2 a season of Hamels, which would make the Rangers the favorites for the WS

frogger6
3 years 1 month ago

Brewers could really use mike olt

Amish_willy
3 years 1 month ago

No kidding. Would be like getting a second chance with Brett Lawrie.

Carter
3 years 1 month ago

Hamels would be a short term rental as he’s a free agent at the end of the year, after which he’ll sign with the LAD.  TX is too hot for him.  TX needs a roof.

Guest
3 years 1 month ago

It’s too hot for him? What are you his agent?

rainyperez
3 years 1 month ago

Don’t worry we have a team of agents representing Cole Hamels on these boards. Apparently we know that he will resign with the Phillies because he said in an interview he does not want to play for L.A.

b00tz
3 years 1 month ago

I agree. I think both would prefer to play in LA next season. Arlington is a bandbox

Kurisu Rg
3 years 1 month ago

 Not like CBP is a pitcher’s haven and he’s been great there.

Amish_willy
3 years 1 month ago

It’s interesting that Cliff Lee was in the same position, TEX or PHI, and ultimately choose PHI. Seems like for a pitcher, there are a lot of perks staying in the National league if the money is the same. The Dodgers I’d imagine will end up by far the most attractive landing spot for Hamels, in terms of all of the above.

After the Puig move by LA, you kind of get the feeling their going to give Hamels a record contract. I’m expecting at a minimum the guaranteed money to equal what they gave Kemp, but over 7 years. I wouldn’t even be shocked if it ended up being that much over 6 years as LA gets a little desperate to land their man knowing their will be several lucrative offers for his services. At this point in the game they’d probably sneeze at “over-paying” him 20m or so.

As a Padre fan I’m expecting his inevitable signing up the I-5 to be bitter-sweet.

vtadave
3 years 1 month ago

Ok…. well it’s supposed to be in the mid-90s in Philly this week, so guess it gets hot there too.

jwsox
3 years 1 month ago

Texas is too hot yet LA isn’t? Yeah that makes sense

3 years 1 month ago

jwsox, I lived 18 years in Texas and 8 years in Los Angeles.     And there’s no comparison, Texas has a far more stifling heat.

3 years 1 month ago

If you keep yourself in shape, and are truly a great pitcher the heat isn’t much of a factor. It’s funny that people want to always disregard Texas getting pitchers because it’s too hot. It’s even funnier considering how well our pitchers do there.

3 years 1 month ago

my guess….they are trying to show off Perez….thats why he is starting today. I’ve been to lots of games in Round Rock this year…Perez is def not pitching up to his potential. – Last time i talked to Reid (GM) of Round Rock he said Perez is lights out or gets his tits ripped…told me they might shop him…and he was sure they would get some goods for him….
Grienke? Hamels? Perez and another prospect ….who knows

hustler_14
3 years 1 month ago

He’s a young pitcher…they all tend to either get ripped or look fantastic…if Reid did indeed tell you that, its not newsbreaking…he(Perez) looked poised with his pitches allthough he used his changeup a bit much…  

3 years 1 month ago

No wonder Perez was called up…..hoping he shows off his goodies….

Kurisu Rg
3 years 1 month ago

 Or maybe because everyone else was either hurt or not as good?

Crewers
3 years 1 month ago

Who knows maybe the Rangers will become to desperate and package up Jurickson for Greinke…

3 years 1 month ago

Texas isn’t that desperate, and I think Profar is almost untouchable. Their rotation is patch work right now but Ogando and Holland are close to being back. A rotation of Harrison, Darvish, Holland, Oswalt and Ogando doesn’t sound very desperate. 

3 years 1 month ago

Yea, I bet a team that’s 50-29 is just aching to overpay for a former ace.

tomymogo
3 years 1 month ago

Braves need Greinke but need to sign him long term if they’re gonna do it

Fan_in_the_Cliff
3 years 1 month ago

Olt for Hamels or Greinke is the most I would want to give up as a Rangers fan.  We are talking about an all-star potential gold glove third baseman for a 1/2 season rental.  That said I would do it for Greinke or Hamels and not look back.  Hope to god that Gallo can hit in the minors and is ready to replace Beltre in 4 years.  Keeping Profar is nice… I would much rather package Perez and Garcia or something along those lines.

frank_costanza
3 years 1 month ago

GOD I hope the Phillies can get Olt for Hamels. Last I heard, the Rangers didn’t want to get rid of Olt because he could help in the bigs right now.

3 years 1 month ago

There’s no way they get Olt unless there’s some assurance that Hamels stays with Texas. That assurance will not be there, so neither will the deal. Texas isn’t desperate.

3 years 1 month ago

As a Ranger fan I would love to have Hamels first then Greinke but Olt seems pricey unless they sign long term, then I would definitely do it. We can always replenish the Olt loss by trading one of our pitchers. I love that Texas is so active and always trying to get better. With Colby probably not returning next season, we could definitely use one of those guys.

drjayphd
3 years 1 month ago

Personally, I’m surprised by all the talk about Olt. I only saw him a couple of times when he was still playing Legion ball, so I’m not exactly that up-to-date on his status, but I didn’t think I’d actually get to write about an actual prospect back when I was covering southern Connecticut high school sports. The best I thought I was going to do was Jason LaVorgna (35th round pick by the Mets, never made it past A-ball) and Tim Binkoski (undrafted in 2007, signed with the Phillies, topped out at Williamsport).

3 years 1 month ago

At this point why would any big-time pitcher go to Texas with their old-school ‘burn out your young arm’ philosophy?  One look at the DL explains how well that is working.

Pecos_Drifter
3 years 1 month ago

Terms of Service won’t allow me to respond to this……but the letter “i” would start the first word…….

3 years 1 month ago

Ogando- Groin from running out a bunt while playing interleage.
Holland- Was sick and lost 15 pounds, causing him to lose velocity
Lewis- Tendonitis and is 32 and has pitched 200+ innings the past few years, not necessarily “young”

Feliz is the only one with real arm trouble and this happened after 42 innings pitched and roughly 6 innings per game (7 games started).. not really ‘burning out our young arms.’

Scott Buchanan
3 years 1 month ago

what about Garza for Olt

Metsfan4ever
3 years 1 month ago

u better be joking…..