Angels Interested In Acquiring Zack Greinke

The Angels plan to make a run at trading for Brewers starter Zack Greinke if the right-hander becomes available prior to the trade deadline, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com.

The Orioles, Rangers and Braves are also thought to be interested in dealing for Greinke, the 2009 American League Cy Young Award winner, although a person close to Greinke said that the Halos are a "perfect fit."

The Angels lavished huge contracts on Albert Pujols and C.J. Wilson this offseason, but they may have payroll flexibility for 2013 with club options on right-handers Dan Haren and Ervin Santana, the latter of which is expected to be declined barring a "major turnaround," according to Heyman.

The Brewers entered the break with a record of 40-45, eight games back in the NL Central and six back for one of two Wild Card spots. They've not yet decided whether they're sellers and will apparently use the first week or two after the All-Star break to sort that out.

Brewers cornerstone Ryan Braun, for his part, wants to convince management to retain Greinke, according to Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com (via Twitter): "Realistically, we're still in this thing."


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177 Comments on "Angels Interested In Acquiring Zack Greinke"


MadmanTX
3 years 1 month ago

No speculation on what the Angels would have to give up in trade? Do they have anywhere near enough talent to give the Brewers?

TheLoLgen
3 years 1 month ago

Almost certainly Segura, I suspect Bourjos is a prime candidate, perhaps a couple pitching guys (Cassevah, Richards, etc.).  Maybe Cron/Cowart attract a little attention as well

SixtoLezcano
3 years 1 month ago

Brewers probably don’t need Bourjos; he’s basically Carlos Gomez and the system has enough OF. I would think Segura + pitcher + corner OF (Cron would be a good fit except he’s not tradeable yet, is he?)

sallen22
3 years 1 month ago

Brewers won’t get a Top 50 prospect plus two others for Grienke without him signing an extension.  Seeing as there’s no compensation you’re looking at a close to the majors top 50 prospect and that’s it.  Segura for Grienke straight up.

It’s a sellers market though.  The Brewers can ask whatever they want, doesn’t mean the Angels would give it though.  They’d play along just long enough to make sure somebody like Texas, Boston or New York would though. 

SixtoLezcano
3 years 1 month ago

Is Segura a top 50 prospect? It seems like the consensus is he can’t play SS in the majors and his offensive numbers aren’t that amazing for a 22-y/o in AA. He’s not the caliber of prospect that gets you Greinke in a 1-for-1 trade.

Maybe somebody can get the Angels GM as drunk as he was when he made that Vernon Wells trade and we can do Greinke for Mike Trout, 1-for-1.

3 years 1 month ago

For Trout??? Have you lost your mind??? Besides, that GM is gone.

VegasANGELSFan
3 years 1 month ago

That GM was already fired based on that trade.  The new GM is quite good (please see Frieri trade, other notable signings in offseason, and releasing Abreu). 

sallen22
3 years 1 month ago

Yes, Jean Segura is a top 50 prospect, and yes, he can play SS at the major league level. He’s got a plus arm and range, he’s just not very smooth out there (yet).  But yes, scouts are correct in that he’d be better suited for 2B because it’s a less demanding position. 

As far as the numbers go, they only tell pat of the story.  He’s hitting in the most difficult offensive league on the planet in the most pitcher friendly park in the league with absolutely no protection around him.  He’s got Jose Reyes type of upsdie but will more than likely be a .280-15 HR-30 SB type of shortstop. 

For 6 years of that, it better be enough to get 2 months of Grienke lol.
  

3 years 1 month ago

HAHAHA, no scout thinks he’s going to stick at short, nor is he a top 50 prospect.
Marc Hulet had him at 91 this offseason, and says his value is static, so definitely hasn’t moved up the list at all.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/reviewing-the-top-100-prospect-list-100-76/
Sickels dropped him from 66 to 78, which isn’t much, but means he essentially thinks the same; he’s static.
If Milwaukee somehow agreed to a package headlined by Segura, you just stole away a top 5 pitcher at the deadline.

notsureifsrs
3 years 1 month ago

baseball america has him at 43 as of a week ago, up from 55 preseason

3 years 1 month ago

 Not the same GM that traded for wells

carllafong
3 years 1 month ago

Segura is a stud. Selected to futures game. His ranking is down because he has dealt with nagging injuries for the past two years, but he’s only 20 and is playing very well. He also had a big spring training. He’s a year away from being ready. But he hits with power and is a quality defender.

jwsox
3 years 1 month ago

if he was drafted this year he cant be traded yet but he can be traded as a player to be named later

carllafong
3 years 1 month ago

Gomez is nowhere near the talent of Bourjos, who lead the league with triples last year and hit .271. Bourjos has tremendous upside.

Sd_brain
3 years 1 month ago

 they have Peter Bourjos, Jean Segura, C.J. Cron, and Kaleb Cowart all of whom may be of interest. Maybe two from that list with other lower prospects should get it done.

carllafong
3 years 1 month ago

Of course the Angels have talent to trade. The so-called experts keep denigrating their system, but that system just produced Trout, Trumbo and Bourjos… and there are a lot more high end prospects where that came from. How ’bout Segura, CJ Cron and  Cowert? Hank Conger is a very attractive catcher nearly ready. The Angels could also include talent off the major league roster that could include Santana, allowing Milwaukee to pick up his option. Relief pitchers with big arms and large potential include Walden and Jepsen.  

Scott Brewer
3 years 1 month ago

They have enough talent and there will be plenty of suitors wanting to jump on the Zack Grienke conversation, so his price will be pretty high. I’m thinking you’d most certainly have to give up 2 top prospects for Zack considering he projects to be a type A free agent in Free Agency. Im thinking Jean Segura, Johnny Hellweg, and Kevin Jepsen for Grienke.

sallen22
3 years 1 month ago

The conversation probably starts and ends with Jean Segura.  Without compensatory draft picks, I don’t like the idea of renting a player so much anymore. 

BK
3 years 1 month ago

Segura and Izturis for Grieke.  Boom Boom Boom

AaronAngst
3 years 1 month ago

That would definitely get you Marcum… and his injured shoulder.

AaronAngst
3 years 1 month ago

Oh, but you can keep Izturis as well.

3 years 1 month ago

they are just saying this to up the value and make the rangers give more to acquire him

3 years 1 month ago

rangers want Hamels more then they want greinke. either way their going to be two month rentals

3 years 1 month ago

 i dont trust grienke in the playoffs

3 years 1 month ago

Might as well trade Bourjos. He needs to play regularly to see if he’s worthy

3 years 1 month ago

 Brewers already have too many OF’s though with Braun, Hart, Gomez, Morgan and Aoki.

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

only one of those players is better than bourjos.. I’ll let you guess which

3 years 1 month ago

Plus Hart is playing 1b

3 years 1 month ago

are you kidding me Corey Hart is 100 times better than Peter Bourjos… Norichika Aoki is on a 13 game hit streak and is about exactly as good as Bourjos and I’d rather have Gomez the fastest player in the MLB rather than Bourjos based on the fact that late last month Gomez got a walk off steal…….

3 years 1 month ago

 Corey Hart and Ryan Braun is two, not one.

SixtoLezcano
3 years 1 month ago

Braun > Hart > Aoki > Gomez = Bourjos

Seriously, Gomez and Bourjos as indistinguishable. 

3 years 1 month ago

say bye bye to trout and trumbo lol. because you know damn well the brewers are going to want them both.

BK
3 years 1 month ago

You seem smart.  Can I invest in your company?

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 1 month ago

You’re doing it wrong. Tell him to invest in ours, when it’s really just a lemonade stand.

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start_wearing_purple
3 years 1 month ago

I always liked “I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you.”

notsureifsrs
3 years 1 month ago

so good

3 years 1 month ago

 You must be new to watching baseball

ThePaulCrew
3 years 1 month ago

Mike Trout for Greinke? 😉

3 years 1 month ago

Brewers need and want SP. Not SP prospect. Big leaugue pitching or Major-ready pitching. So Segura can’t be main piece. Richards is not enough. So deal can’t be done

ArchAngel_7
3 years 1 month ago

I would not trade 5 or 6 years of richards for 3 months of greinke straight up. Talk about over valuing guys

wscaddie56
3 years 1 month ago

we want to stay competitive and we are fairly solid in the majors at most positions, we need an MLB ready SS very badly plus pitching
this segura dude play SS?

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 1 month ago

He can play SS as in stand there.

3 years 1 month ago

Nah, he’s a relief pitcher.  What you guys really want is an up and coming young 1B type to replace Fielder…Paul McAnulty is your man.

3 years 1 month ago

 He can play SS, it is questionable if he is near MLB ready though.

ThePaulCrew
3 years 1 month ago

I’m thinking Segura and Cowart would be pretty attractive for the Brewers. That could be their left side of the infield of the future. IMO Cron has less value for the brewers because of Hunter Morris.

BK
3 years 1 month ago

No way they get both.  2 months of what is about to be a 20mm a year pitcher with NO compensation.  I am not even sure they get a top 50 prospect. 

ThePaulCrew
3 years 1 month ago

Well I guess its good for the Brewers that neither one of those guys are in the top 50 according to Baseball America.

BK
3 years 1 month ago

Stop nitpicking, you will get Bobby Wilson and cash and be happy.  If you keep being fresh, you will get Takahashi.

ThePaulCrew
3 years 1 month ago

I’m not nitpicking. Its not my fault you are overvaluing your team’s prospects. To say that you will only have Greinke for 2 months is ridiculous. We all know your team will easily be able to resign him. You get your third ace and the Brewers get two good prospects.

BK
3 years 1 month ago

Every publication outside of baseball America (ESPN, Prospects, Fangraphs) has Segura as a top 50 guy and Cowart as a top 100.

notsureifsrs
3 years 1 month ago

baseball america has him at 43

rickjimbo
3 years 1 month ago

That’s a clown answer, bro.

3 years 1 month ago

“You blue me away.”

sallen22
3 years 1 month ago

Jean Segura is #43 actually.  I fhe weren’t in the most pitching friendly park in a pitcher friendly league you could rest assured he’d be a top 30.  Brewers would be extremely lucky if they got him 1 for 1.  Don’t see it happening. 

jwsox
3 years 1 month ago

i wouldnt trust greinke in LA

3 years 1 month ago

Explain…

ARod's Ring
3 years 1 month ago

I see Ryan Braun requesting a trade later on his contract.

AaronAngst
3 years 1 month ago

Braun is the one that wanted to sign the second extension to stay in Milwaukee, so I doubt it. He’s not lacking in confidence, so I’m pretty sure he felt he was going to be leaving a good chunk of cash on the table in the process. Attanasio has shown he will spend money to try and keep his team competitive – that’s all any player can ask of their owner.

PushDown
3 years 1 month ago

As an Angel fan, I’ll believe this rumor has any substance only when the JeDi denies it.

SoCalAngelsFan75
3 years 1 month ago

The Force is strong with this one. LOL!

ArchAngel_7
3 years 1 month ago

Tell that to the Padres who are still wondering why they traded Ernesto…

SoCalAngelsFan75
3 years 1 month ago

Trumbo is a local guy and a fan favorite.  Arte and Jerry would be run out of town if they traded Trumbo. Especially after the Napoli debacle.

3 years 1 month ago

… a Napoli debacle where I’m actually more frustrated with the fans than the front office. Napoli had a great second half in 2011, something he’s done before with the Angels in shorter bursts, and now he’s right back to the old Napoli, even in one of the most hitter friendly parks in baseball. The Napoli debacle was created by hype that Angels fans actually believed. I knew Napoli would fall right back into the .230’s and not drive in runs consistently, which was all he did with the Angels. I’m glad they traded him then, and I’m still glad.

3 years 1 month ago

I think it’s probably more accurate to name it the Wells debacle and not the Napoli debacle.  I agree Naps overachieved last year and should have been traded (way differently), but I don’t believe for a second you’re happy about the return.  I’m not playing I have a crystal ball guy either, I’m talking strictly about the salary we took on.  I’ll be honest and actually believed Wells would be productive when the trade took place, but NEVER liked the contract.

ArchAngel_7
3 years 1 month ago

I would say you are right. If we had gotten a decent return nobody would have cared. What we got was a vastly overpaid declining player. It was a bad move. Thats why fans were  upset. If reagins had 20 million a year to spend, he should have given it to beltre.

3 years 1 month ago

Please. No way in hell Trumbo is going anywhere for anyone. The meat of the offense this year? Greinke is no real upgrade anyway, especially as a rental. And if an extension is required, another minimum 25M for two years of work from, following the rotation, a #4 pitcher? No thanks.

ThePaulCrew
3 years 1 month ago

A #4 pitcher? In that case just send the brewers a couple of career AAAA a guys and we’ll call it a deal.

BK
3 years 1 month ago

He is actually at best a 3 or at worst a 4.  He is not better than Weaver or Wilson and it is arguable whether or not he is better than Haren (who was pretty consistent when healthy).

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

rangers would never let this happen…in fact i wouldnt be surprised if the rumor was started by the brewers

BurtisHB
3 years 1 month ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if it were started by the Halos.  Let Texas overpay for a 2 month rental.

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

and win the division and make it to the world series..again. 

IMmessingWITHyou
3 years 1 month ago

and lose again!!!!

3 years 1 month ago

The Rangers don’t have that much clout on the market yet, especially when it comes to top starting pitchers; even after two straight pennants, Darvish, Nathan, and Oswalt are the best they can do. If the Rangers were to actually land him, chances are the Angels still get in front of the line in the offseason. The Angels always have and always will have the advantage over the Rangers when it comes to signing starting pitching.

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

 this isn’t about next year. its about this year..

and when we are talking about moving prospects, rangers could trump any package the angels put together.

Devon Henry
3 years 1 month ago

Just like they didn’t let us sign CJ…

Lunchbox45
3 years 1 month ago

free agency and trade are a bit different.

3 years 1 month ago

I dont think this would ever happen with the Angels….  Texas would outbid the Angels if they got wind of something like that happening.  And you know the Brewers would try to get Texas and all of there prospects involved…  The question is – Would Texas go for broke and trade for both Greinke and Hamels (YIKES)???

3 years 1 month ago

I hear there’s about 28 other teams “interested” in acquiring Zach Greinke, depending on the price.

Kingmojo101
3 years 1 month ago

No way in hell trout or trumbo will be part of any trades for greinke.I honestly think we don’t Need greinke in the angels he isn’t a very confident pitcher, if we do trade I would much rather give up cohoun and Santana Segura is our 2nd baseman if Kendrick doesn’t cut it for us any more.