Cafardo On Papelbon, Youkilis, Overbay, Drew

In today's Boston Globe, Nick Cafardo makes the case for Braves pitcher Tom Glavine to earn induction into the Hall of Fame.  For his part, Glavine said he would be thrilled to go in with Greg Maddux and Bobby Cox. “Bobby Cox had the biggest influence in my career and probably the second- or third-biggest influence in my life,” Glavine said. “Greg was a dear friend, and just being around him made me better. I learned so much. We talked so much about pitching and situations, and hitters. I couldn’t have asked for a better teammate and influence on my career. To have three of us together like that would be incredible, and Smoltzy next year.”  More from today's column..

  • One of the reasons the Phillies haven’t been able to find a buyer for Jonathan Papelbon is his drop in velocity.  Papelbon, who was regularly 95-96 in his Red Sox days, fell to 91-92 and sometimes less last season. “That was a red flag for me,” said an AL scout. “He didn’t look like the same guy. Whether that was physical or he just didn’t have the adrenaline flowing with a bad team, I don’t know.”
  • Kevin Youkilis' one-year deal could be worth up to $5MM and is apparently more than he could have received anywhere in MLB.  The Yankees had some interest, but at a lower price. The Indians, Giants, and Rays also had interest at one time. Back problems limited Youkilis to 28 games last season with the Yankees, and he simply couldn’t convince the masses he was healthy. 
  • Lyle Overbay's market is lukewarm right now and he'll likely be a January tack-on for someone. Cafardo predicts he'll wind up as a backup or a low-cost option for a team such as the Orioles or Indians.
  • The Mets and agent Scott Boras have discussed parameters but no firm numbers for Stephen Drew and right now, it looks like GM Sandy Alderson is sticking with Ruben Tejada. There’s always the Yankees, but Drew has never played anywhere but shortstop and Derek Jeter doesn’t appear to be moving to another position.  The road, for now, is still leading back to the Red Sox.
  • Agent Scott Boras scoffs at the notion that the market for Kendrys Morales has dried up due to the draft pick compensation issue.  Cafardo says that at some point a team such as the Orioles may give it up to have a superb hitter in the middle of their order and cautions to never underestimate Boras.  
  • Mark Mulder is looking for a minor league deal with incentives if he makes the major league club. He's worked out for the Giants, Padres, Diamondbacks, Angels, and Phillies over two sessions and the second session he improved his velocity from 88 to 92 mph.  The Red Sox have inquired on Mulder, who hasn’t pitched in the majors since 2008, but probably won’t pursue him.  Back in late November, Giants GM Brian Sabean indicated that he wouldn't be in on Mulder since he's seeking a big league deal.
  • Even with the Yankees' declaration that Brett Gardner won’t be traded, they would listen to the right deal.
  • It's a big surprise that agent Scott Boras couldn’t get Tigers owner Mike Ilitch to outbid the Rangers for Shin-Soo Choo since they have a need for a leadoff hitter. The Tigers are apparently continuing to commit to Austin Jackson at the top of the order and hope his game smooths out.
  • The Rays and Cubs want at least three very good players for David Price and Jeff Samardzija, respectively, whether they're major league-ready or top prospects. 


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58 Comments on "Cafardo On Papelbon, Youkilis, Overbay, Drew"


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Mike LaRose
1 year 6 months ago

I don’t think Os fans will react to well if they sign Morales and lose a pick after the Balfour mess

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1 year 6 months ago

They’d sign him and then change their mind because of his ankle.

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Gothapotamus
1 year 6 months ago

Personally, I’m tired of the holier than thou HoF voters who have an agenda.

Maddux should receive 100% of the vote. Any voter who doesn’t put him in should have their vote revoked. Howard Bryant, I’m looking at you, with your boycott to include anybody last year due to PED premise.

And Glavine, he’s worthy of a first ballot induction as well. Was he Maddux? No. But he was arguably the 2nd best pitcher of the 90s, even ahead of Clemens. He was no worse than 4th if you put Clemens and Randy Johnson ahead of him (4 of Johnson’s Cy Youngs were in the 2000s).

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Curt Green
1 year 6 months ago

There are a few 300 game winners not inducted the first time. He is not a lock for first time pick. Maddux on the other time, is a lock.

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nepp
1 year 6 months ago

Agreed, Maddux is arguably one of the top 5 RHPs of all time. He easily deserves to get in the 1st time around with over 90% of the vote. Glavine might have to wait a year but he’s 100% a HOF too.

This is coming from a Phillies fan who despised those Braves teams for context.

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Curt Green
1 year 6 months ago

Yes, I agree Glavine should be a HOF also. All 300 games winners should.

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Colin Christopher
1 year 6 months ago

Agreed. A pitcher who retires with 300+ wins, 2 Cy Youngs, 4 other top-3 finishes in the Cy Young voting, and 2600+ Ks despite never having a fastball that topped 88 deserves to get in on the first ballot. Glavine probably won’t get named on as many ballots as Maddux, but nobody can come up with a compelling reason why he shouldn’t be in the Hall of Fame.

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TFF17
1 year 6 months ago

How would you compare Glavine, Mussina, and Schilling? Glavine has the most wins, but the others match up pretty well. Do all three go in, or is the 300 win plateau enough to differentiate Glavine?

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Gothapotamus
1 year 6 months ago

good points – I guess I never realized how close they were on WAR, not to mention, both Moose and Schilling are higher on WAR7 (Schilling being ~5 higher).

I’m not sure how to reconcile between Glavine and those two. Schill has been a guy I’ve wanted to see in the HoF, but more for sentimental reasons as a Phils fan. I almost feel like I was giving him the Jack Morris treatment, but I didn’t realize his peripherals were as good as they were. I guess that’ll happen when you play on some pretty bad teams (a la mid to late 90s Phillies).

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TFF17
1 year 6 months ago

Schilling is unusual in that his peak began at the age of 34, when he moved to Arizona. His command improved dramatically at that time.

As a Red Sox fan, I have great respect for Schilling (key contributions to three championship teams) and Mussina (57 GS against the Red Sox, and always a bulldog).

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slashieboy .
1 year 6 months ago

Tom Glavine only pitched in the National League which is so much easier. If Tom Glavine was an AL -lifer he would not even be mentioned as far as the hall goes.

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Gothapotamus
1 year 6 months ago

WAR normalizes for the level of competition one faces, for those of you who hold your AL biases near and dear to your hearts.

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Jeffy25
1 year 6 months ago

It would be crazy if mulder could come back.

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Dbacksfan44
1 year 6 months ago

Anyone who gives up three top prospects for Samardzija is making a big mistake

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BENT_WOOKIE
1 year 6 months ago

don’t mess this up for me. i’ve been sending old highlights of him playing football at ND with really intense music to kirk gibson and kevin towers all offseason.

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Dbacksfan44
1 year 6 months ago

Lol

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Colin Christopher
1 year 6 months ago

I hope you’re titling the videos, “True Grit.”

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Curt Green
1 year 6 months ago

I think Mulder is the type of project the Twins would take a look at.