East Notes: Mets, Burnett, Phillies, Benoit

The Mets' offseason will be a disappointment if the Curtis Granderson acquisition is the only big move, the New York Post's Joel Sherman writes. "If this really is it — after all the buildup asking for patience to let the money of Johan Santana and Jason Bay go away — then this will be a breach with the fan base," Sherman says. "Heading toward another $85 million-ish payroll is — quite frankly — not honoring the commitment. It is being the San Diego Mets." Here are more notes from around the East divisions.

  • A.J. Burnett still hasn't decided whether or not to pitch in 2014, CBS Sports' Jon Heyman tweets. Burnett has previously said he intends to pitch for the Pirates or retire, but Heyman introduces a new possibility — that Burnett could pitch for the Orioles instead. Burnett resides in Maryland.
  • GM Ruben Amaro says the Phillies would eat salary in a trade that improved the team, reports Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com. Salisbury notes that the Phillies would like to trade Jonathan Papelbon, who will make $13MM in both 2014 and 2015 and has a $13MM vesting option in 2016.
  • Despite the signing of Nate McLouth, the Nationals have no plans to deal Denard Span, tweets Mike Berardino of the St. Paul Pioneer Press. Span will continue to be their center fielder and leadoff hitter.
  • The Yankees have had "lots of internal discussions" about free agent reliever Joaquin Benoit, USA Today's Bob Nightengale reports (via Twitter). The Yankees would like to add two bullpen arms.


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130 Comments on "East Notes: Mets, Burnett, Phillies, Benoit"


KJ4realz
1 year 8 months ago

I hate your smug lying ways, Ruben.

Guest
1 year 8 months ago

Don’t blame Ruben. He’s doing everything he can with the awful budget that the Wilpons stuck him with. Look at the moves he’s made like trading Beltran for Wheeler and Dickey for d’Arnaud and Syndergaard…it’s not his fault that the Wilpons lost all their money, or that the free agent market is ridiculously expensive this year.

HellBoyTB
1 year 8 months ago

Must be a new Ruben in charge of the Mets? I mean a sandwich could do better than Sandy but this is news to me for sure

KJ4realz
1 year 8 months ago

I almost fainted when I read the first few words in the sentence. I mean, someone trying to defend Ruben? Wiped the brow after I finished the sentence.

Guest
1 year 8 months ago

Don’t blame Ruben. He’s doing everything he can with the awful budget that the Wilpons stuck him with. Look at the moves he’s made like trading Beltran for Wheeler and Dickey for d’Arnaud and Syndergaard…it’s not his fault that the Wilpons lost all their money, or that the free agent market is ridiculously expensive this year.

SpaceOwl
1 year 8 months ago

Was he seriously surprised that the Wilpons may have feigned us all that we “would spend” and just sign Granderson and Young.. with no other holes being filled. I have a TINY bit of hope left we’ll trade for a decent SS and sign a nice innings eater and some relief pitching, if that’s plugged,then we can definitely come real close to contending.

BluEandOrange
1 year 8 months ago

If only the Mets could have two additional spots in the lineup and a second second baseman and a second first baseman on the field so they could play Murphy, Duda, Ike, and Satin all at the same time.

SpaceOwl
1 year 8 months ago

Or trade Duda and/or Ike.

BluEandOrange
1 year 8 months ago

The Mets appear to have a love affair with both of them.

TheJuanWhoKnocks
1 year 8 months ago

Do you think the Orioles would do Eduardo Rodriguez and Schoop for Murphy and Davis/Duda?

OhthePossibilities
1 year 8 months ago

They shouldn’t.

rouscher
1 year 8 months ago

Thats a little much

rouscher
1 year 8 months ago

Thats a little much

jhramberg
1 year 8 months ago

go for Balfour. Make a great battery mater with McCann

OhthePossibilities
1 year 8 months ago

Balfour: Stop staring at me while I’m pitching!

*McCann stands in front of batter to receive the pitch.*

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

This was the offseason all Mets fans were waiting anxiously for, so he’s right. If this is all they have to offer, then it’s very disappointing…

1 year 8 months ago

What do you recommend? Nelson Cruz? 100MM for Choo?

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

I’m sorry, but last time I checked we had already completed our 2014 OF, yet here you are attempting to be smug by proposing signing more OFs, great job!

How about you just try to understand what holes we still have to fill and then go from there?

1 year 8 months ago

Juan Lagares is still somewhat of an unknown at the plate and Chris Young is best suited as a platoon player. You are making it sound like overpaying for a guy like Stephen Drew and/or Bronson Arroyo will make or break the offseason. Any addition the Mets can afford to make right now in the free agent market will be marginal.

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

$7.25 for a platoon player? Really??? They definitely don’t believe that if they gave him that kind of contract, anyway the Manager already spoke today and stated that Granderson/Lagares/Young is his OF.

I never even mentioned Drew or Arroyo, but nice try!

BCleveland3381
1 year 8 months ago

Chris Young is a solid signing. He has 30HR power and is still pretty young. He is a guy that can play CF as Juan Lagares insurance in case he regresses offensively. If Young bounces back, he’s trade bait for a contending team if the Mets are out of it. Prospects we get back would be worth the 7 million dollar salary. And last, to get an OF upgrade for one year isn’t easy. With Puello waiting in the wings, we don’t need to over extend ourselves until we know what Lagares will be as a major league hitter.

BadBJay
1 year 8 months ago

Some say Chris Young is underrated. I think his underrated status makes him overrated, to be honest.

1 year 8 months ago

Juan Lagares is still somewhat of an unknown at the plate and Chris Young is best suited as a platoon player. You are making it sound like overpaying for a guy like Stephen Drew and/or Bronson Arroyo will make or break the offseason. Any addition the Mets can afford to make right now in the free agent market will be marginal.

SWB0781 .
1 year 8 months ago

Well the Yankees are going around signing as many outfielders as possible. You never know.

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

They are mostly DHs, not OFs.

meetthemets26
1 year 8 months ago

yup, that’s it for the big moves, maybe a minor move or two, but their done…

rct
1 year 8 months ago

Yes, it’s Sandy’s fault that Harvey is out for 2014.

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

Huh?

What does Harvey have to do with anything?

Are you trying to say that because Harvey went down, we should just pass on the 2014 season?

rct
1 year 8 months ago

It’s brutal reality, but yes. You honestly think they can make the playoffs without him? He’s out for 2014 and their other best pitchers are so young that 2014, imo, should be used to gain confidence and experience.

Honestly, I don’t see how you can think Harvey doesn’t have everything to do with this.

BluEandOrange
1 year 8 months ago

Matt Harvey doesn’t make or break the Mets. With Harvey are they a much better team? Of course.

However, the plan was still to go for it in 2014 even prior to Harvey’s emergence as a star this season.

It’s as if you aren’t even familiar with the Mets situation and the statements the front office has made.

The Mets situation does not occur in a vacuum.

rct
1 year 8 months ago

What are you talking about? So because they made some silly declarations a few years ago that they should ignore reality? When they said that stuff, the team was a vastly different team. The team has changed, so should the course of action. Adaption is key.

And trust me, I’m well aware of what statements the front office makes. I just choose to realize that they’re a business and sometimes need to say certain things to appease fans/media/etc. They also say things to affect contract negotiations or trades.

If you want to believe everything the Wilpons say, that’s not my problem.

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

I remember when the Cardinals lost Carpenter, and when they lost Wainwright that one season as well, I don’t remember them calling it quits that year though…

Keep lowering your expectations though, the Wilpons love you for it!

rct
1 year 8 months ago

Yes, because the players the Mets have are as good as the players the Cardinals had.

Also, in 2007 and 2008, years Carpenter missed, the Cardinals missed the playoffs both years. In 2011, the year Wainwright missed, the Cardinals had Pujols, Berkman, Holliday, Molina, Carpenter, and great years from Allen Craig, Freese, and Jay. The situations are not comparable in any way.

The Mets won 74 games last year and have lost far and away their best pitcher for next year. Please, please, explain to me how they’re going to make the playoffs this year. It’s not lower expectations, it’s reality. Get a grip.

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

You proposed yesterday that the Mets shouldn’t do anything because they aren’t going anywhere simply because of Harvey’s absence. Obviously you have noted that in 2011 the Cardinals still added players to make the run they did possible, which is my point. While the Mets will make an excuse like the one you’re giving, the Cardinals moved ahead and still made additions to their roster to make that run possible.

“Also, in 2007 and 2008, years Carpenter missed, the Cardinals missed the playoffs both years.”

I love how you leave out last year and the year before!

mrnatewalter
mrnatewalter
1 year 8 months ago

Baltimore should just pay Burnett to retire and spare baseball as a whole.

OhthePossibilities
1 year 8 months ago

Heyman is contractually obligated to throw out the Orioles as a possible destination for anyone with a heartbeat.

mrnatewalter
mrnatewalter
1 year 8 months ago

Everyone and their dog has been linked to Baltimore or Texas this offseason… the boy has cried wolf a few times too many.

mrnatewalter
mrnatewalter
1 year 8 months ago

Everyone and their dog has been linked to Baltimore or Texas this offseason… the boy has cried wolf a few times too many.

MJensen
1 year 8 months ago

Joel Sherman is desperate to generate traffic to his website, nothing more.

rct
1 year 8 months ago

He’s endemic of what is wrong with the New York sports media: overly critical, the sky is always falling, no patience. It’s a shame because he generally has good info/intel, but his opinion pieces are almost always bad. I remember in 2003-4, it seemed like every other day he’d devote an article to demanding that the Mets trade Kazmir and lambasting the Mets for not already doing so.

I know we’re not supposed to criticize individual writers on this site, but it’s hard not to with him.

Danny Phillips
1 year 8 months ago

Nobody realistically thought Span was going to be traded. Rizzo never lets his actual intentions slip out.

1 year 8 months ago

Awful stance from Sherman. Should the Mets just go re-commit freed up money to even more risky contracts? I am pleased with Granderson but the Mets are still not in a position to compete for the playoffs. Payroll flexibility will be more important when Harvey is back.

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

They shouldn’t just spend for the sake of spending, but they need to plug up the holes. Trading for a SS, signing a veteran SP, and signing a reliever is a must!

1 year 8 months ago

The offseason has just started. Its day 2 of the winter meetings…

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

You just proposed basically a plan of doing nothing for the rest of the offseason because we need the “payroll flexibility” for when Harvey returns. Make up your mind!

1 year 8 months ago

Sherman proposes making another “big splash”.

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

You just proposed basically a plan of doing nothing for the rest of the offseason because we need the “payroll flexibility” for when Harvey returns. Make up your mind!

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

They shouldn’t just spend for the sake of spending, but they need to plug up the holes. Trading for a SS, signing a veteran SP, and signing a reliever is a must!

BluEandOrange
1 year 8 months ago

Actually, if you were acquainted with the situation, it wasn’t Sherman who initially made this stance, it was the Mets front office themselves.

1 year 8 months ago

I laughed out loud at the San Diego Mets. I got lost driving home from Laguardia last week and found myself in front of Citi Field. What a depressing place.

meetthemets26
1 year 8 months ago

you mean you ….LOL…..and you went by citi field last week in the winter
and it was depressing…..maybe you should go during the summer….LOL.

1 year 8 months ago

I was depressed because Matt Harvey and Mr. Met were panhandling outside to raise cash for the 2014 season.

meetthemets26
1 year 8 months ago

lol….i hear ya….merry christmas bro

meetthemets26
1 year 8 months ago

you mean you ….LOL…..and you went by citi field last week in the winter
and it was depressing…..maybe you should go during the summer….LOL.

BCleveland3381
1 year 8 months ago

You didn’t need any new rims for your car?

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

Or used tires at a discounted price :)

1 year 8 months ago

I asked for directions and they said they’d only help if I bought a ten game package and a stale box of miller light.

1 year 8 months ago

I laughed out loud at the San Diego Mets. I got lost driving home from Laguardia last week and found myself in front of Citi Field. What a depressing place.

TheJuanWhoKnocks
1 year 8 months ago

Trade one of Ike/Duda, sign Drew, sign Bartolo Colon for 1 year and we may contend for a wild card.

Matt Mccarron
1 year 8 months ago

4 decent hitters in your lineup, 3 decent starters, no relievers, a bad bench. Phillies have that. They can’t contend.

MJensen
1 year 8 months ago

After 3 years of spending nothing, and fans clamoring for a signing, Mets finally sign Granderson, and then, “It’s not enough. They fail unless they sign one more.”

Danny Phillips
1 year 8 months ago

They also signed Young 😉

MJensen
1 year 8 months ago

Right, but Young “hits .220″ and so it’s perceived as being nothing, even though he puts up superior WAR than many many OF’s.

Danny Phillips
1 year 8 months ago

Tongue planted firmly in cheek.

MJensen
1 year 8 months ago

Fair point. They did sign Young. Again showing Sherman knows nothing and shouldn’t be given authority as a writer at the NY Post.

mrnatewalter
mrnatewalter
1 year 8 months ago

The NY Post is like someone read a better newspaper, and texted you the main points of the article… I don’t take Sherman for a grain of salt.

BluEandOrange
1 year 8 months ago

Who is Chris Young? Another reclamation project? Please inform yourself of the situation with The Wilpons, the front office, and all of the promises they’ve spewed before posting on the topic.

BluEandOrange
1 year 8 months ago

Please inform yourself of the Mets front office’s double talk before posting on the subject.

Danny Phillips
1 year 8 months ago

Tongue planted firmly in cheek.

DerekJeterDan
1 year 8 months ago

Because signing Chris Young was a terrible mistake an that 7.25 Million was a waste simply because people will never acknowledge Young and it wasted a lot of money to bring in resources. Had that for to Stephen Drew or Bronson Arroyo, along with Granderson who filled an OF need THAN Sandy would have done enough but acquiring 2 OFers for 67 Million dollars, although it was a problem position is lateral at best. Granderson and Drew or Arroyo should both be New York Mets. Chris Young made little sense.

BluEandOrange
1 year 8 months ago

You can’t claim you’ll make “significant acquisitions” and end up with just Grandy and Chris B. Young.

DerekJeterDan
1 year 8 months ago

Completely agree. The Mets have promise for 3 years that 2014 was the year. Anything other than an impressive Offseason should be met with rebellion and scorn from the fan base.

BluEandOrange
1 year 8 months ago

The Mets ownership has never come clean about their financial situation. They’ve actual flat out lied to the public about it but most of the Mets beat writers are sheep that fear losing their platform instead of reporting the truth.

The massive debt the Wilpons are in is actually public record.

When you make bold face lies, you have to be held accountable.

If only they told the truth instead of trying to play this charade would they be less embattled with the fanbase.

BadBJay
1 year 8 months ago

Sadly, the Mets have bigger problems than what’s on the field. Their mgmt is in complete disarray.

MJensen
1 year 8 months ago

People think money is unlimited for NY teams. Let me tell you, unless you operate efficiently, you will not see success, no matter how much funds you have.

slashieboy .
1 year 8 months ago

AJ Burnett was done. But like so many others he looked good in the weak NL. He wont help help the Orioles, he will help all the other teams in the AL East. Stay in the weak NL or retire, dont make a fool of yourself in a Orioles uniform.

JTrea81
1 year 8 months ago

Burnett is far from done. His groundball rate has increased quite dramatically and he’s still got strikeout stuff. Pitching against the Yankees might be even more motivation.

slashieboy .
1 year 8 months ago

Thats was not my point, he will not look good back in the AL. He should stay in the NL if he knows whats best for him(and his stats)

slashieboy .
1 year 8 months ago

Thats was not my point, he will not look good back in the AL. He should stay in the NL if he knows whats best for him(and his stats)

alphabet_soup5
1 year 8 months ago

I agree. He has done good in Pittsburgh, but I have a feeling he would get lit up pitching in the AL East again. He should stick to the NL, he won’t have the option of deciding to retire or not if he goes back to his old ways. Nobody will want him.

BCleveland3381
1 year 8 months ago

I still think the Mets should go after Drew. His market isnt that high. 3 years 36 million and they could probably get him. Teams are wary giving up a first rounder to get him, and the Sox don’t want to offer him more than 2 years. He’d only cost the Mets a 3rd round pick. He’s an upgrade offensively and defensively. Even with the Mets being broke, they’d have to trade Murphy and Ike, but could handle his salary. Move EY to 2B which is ok, because he’s the only guy on the roster even remotely resembling a leadoff hitter. Our lineup would look drastically better than last season.

2B – E Young
CF – Lagares
3B – Wright
LF – Granderson
RF – C Young
SS – Drew
1B – Duda/Flores(platoon)
C – d’Arnaud

TheJuanWhoKnocks
1 year 8 months ago

I love Lagares, but Drew makes much more sense in the 2 hole. I also think we should hang on to Davis unless we get a good return.

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

Agreed, Lagares is in the 8 hole no matter what lineup you throw out there.

BCleveland3381
1 year 8 months ago

That’s fine by me. It’s just the general idea. Drew is attainable without adding a ton of payroll. If EY doesn’t start, who is our leadoff hitter? That’s why I think Murphy has to get traded. Well, that and his salary of course.

TheJuanWhoKnocks
1 year 8 months ago

What do you guys think of signing Colon for a year. He is said to be a great clubhouse presence and he’s a fly ball pitcher who would do great in our park and with our defense in the outfield.

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

Definitely worth it on a one year deal. Great bridge to the young guns coming up soon, but makes too much sense for the Mets to pull the trigger.

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

Agreed, Lagares is in the 8 hole no matter what lineup you throw out there.

BadBJay
1 year 8 months ago

I don’t think Stephen Drew wants to be a Met.

BCleveland3381
1 year 8 months ago

So far, the only teams reported as showing interest is the Red Sox(barely), the mets, and Twins. The Sox wont offer more than 2 years. Now it’s between the Mets and Twins. Mets are probably a better choice if they offer a 3 year deal.

BadBJay
1 year 8 months ago

Not sure if the Mets are the better choice. He’s better off taking the RedSox offer (for him anyway).

BCleveland3381
1 year 8 months ago

Depends what he wants. If he wants the security of a 3 year deal, he takes that. The Red Sox have the young guys to replace Drew and seem pretty lukewarm about him coming back.

BCleveland3381
1 year 8 months ago

Depends what he wants. If he wants the security of a 3 year deal, he takes that. The Red Sox have the young guys to replace Drew and seem pretty lukewarm about him coming back.

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

Mets won’t offer more than two years either, although they did say they wouldn’t go over three years for Granderson, so who knows…

BCleveland3381
1 year 8 months ago

Right. Anything you hear publicly is want Sandy wants us(and Drew) to hear.

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

Agreed…

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

Mets won’t offer more than two years either, although they did say they wouldn’t go over three years for Granderson, so who knows…

ea19
1 year 8 months ago

Where did you hear that the Twins were in on Drew?? If it was from Drew’s agent….they are just trying to drive up his asking price!! Kind of like Matt Garza saying that he would be willing to come back to Minnesota even after his bitter departure:)

AlphaICaesar
1 year 8 months ago

You should see the size of the smile on the Xmas card we just received from Bobby Bonilla. Brighter than the tree lights.

Sam Henzler
1 year 8 months ago

I’m confused. What role does McLouth have now with Washington? With Harper, Span, and Werth, it seems like a waste of 10+M

OhthePossibilities
1 year 8 months ago

He can fill in when Harper or Werth hit the DL.

OhthePossibilities
1 year 8 months ago

With Harper, he might hit the 15 Day DL so hard he’ll go right on the 60.

BCleveland3381
1 year 8 months ago

That’s the cost of a 4th OF nowadays. I should have went into the 4th OF business instead of driving trucks around delivering food.

mrnatewalter
mrnatewalter
1 year 8 months ago

10 million dollar insurance policy.

Danny Phillips
1 year 8 months ago

They also plan on resting the OFs more often this year Matt Williams said he plans on Nate getting 350 ab’s at least.

Jeff Miller
1 year 8 months ago

If Ruben is willing to eat money in the right deal, why is Papelbon still a member of the Phillies?

BCleveland3381
1 year 8 months ago

Because Papelbon stinks, is a headcase, and there are a boatload of better closers that wont cost pieces to get.

Jeff Miller
1 year 8 months ago

I’ll give you that he’s a headcase, but not the stinks and boatload of better closers.

MJensen
1 year 8 months ago

That headcase is what the Tigers needed, not Nathan.

Benny
1 year 8 months ago

Nathan cost the Tigers money, while Papelbon would’ve cost them money and prospects.

Nathan > Papelbon

BCleveland3381
1 year 8 months ago

Because Papelbon stinks, is a headcase, and there are a boatload of better closers that wont cost pieces to get.

mrnatewalter
mrnatewalter
1 year 8 months ago

If I trade for him, there’s a feeling that I have to use him… that, in and of itself, has to be a terrifying feeling when acquiring Pap.

BadBJay
1 year 8 months ago

Yup. And he will not be a setup guy – he has no desire for the role. He will be a virus in the clubhouse.

mrnatewalter
mrnatewalter
1 year 8 months ago

If I trade for him, there’s a feeling that I have to use him… that, in and of itself, has to be a terrifying feeling when acquiring Pap.

MJensen
1 year 8 months ago

Probably because of the years in the contract.