Ervin Santana Rumors: Sunday

It was reported yesterday Ervin Santana is weighing one year offers from both the Blue Jays ($14MM) and Orioles ($13MM plus incentives) with two other clubs also expressing interest. Here's the latest on the top ranked free agent remaining on MLBTR's 2014 Top 50 Free Agents list:

  • Orioles manager Buck Showalter told reporters, including MASNsports.com's Roch Kubatko (Twitter), GM Dan Duquette told him nothing is imminent on the Santana front.
  • Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com writes the Twins offered Santana a three-year deal, but he prefers a one-year contract unless someone is willing go four years at his asking price.
  • With all this recent action on Santana, Heyman tweets it may take a few days for the situation to resolve itself adding both the Blue Jays and Orioles have made strong one-year proposals. 
  • 1500ESPN.com's Darren Wolfson tweets he's been told Santana isn't coming to Twins with the hangup being length of contract (Santana wants one year and the Twins want three years).


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95 Comments on "Ervin Santana Rumors: Sunday"


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1 year 3 months ago

I know Santana is working out and all, but if I was a GM I’d be pretty concerned by the potential effect this circus could have on his conditioning.

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Mil8Ball
1 year 3 months ago

Kyle Lohse had no issues last year in an identicle circus so to speak. From the time he signed till his first regular season start it was like 2 weeks. Santana is preparing somewhere ready to go.(didn’t sign till March 23 or something)

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1 year 3 months ago

Lohse wasn’t a part of a public agent dispute and his list of suitors wasn’t this public. There’s nothing identical about the two situations.

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Mil8Ball
1 year 3 months ago

I Dont see how either issue will effect him at all. He is a big boy…not a child.

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Chris Brittingham
1 year 3 months ago

Agreed, this is standard baseball business, no circus at all.

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bhambravesfan
1 year 3 months ago

He’d be wise to wait and see what happened to Medlin today.

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NL_East_Rivalry
1 year 3 months ago

Braves still have their first round pick. If they lose Medlen I doubt they make a play unless they don’t feel Like Beachy is ready.

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NL_East_Rivalry
1 year 3 months ago

Braves still have their first round pick. If they lose Medlen I doubt they make a play unless they don’t feel Like Beachy is ready.

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Alex
1 year 3 months ago

If the Twins offer is a reasonable AAV, Santana should take it. Big park, AL Central, top farm system; it’s a no-brainer. He probably won’t get that good a deal next offseason after he’s pitched in the AL East and has aged a year, unless he dominates, but that seems somewhat unlikely.

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Macfan01
1 year 3 months ago

LOL, I was thinking the same thing. Guess he feels he can establish value in the AL East and go back on the market next season, sounds nuts to me given the offensive talent level in the division from top to bottom, but whatever, his call.

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LazerTown
1 year 3 months ago

I agree. He already had a good year. His value isn’t going to go up very much this year, and very likely goes down.

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Macfan01
1 year 3 months ago

If he was smart you figure he would take the Twins 3 year offer and run with it. He strikes me as the kind of pitcher that will get lit up in the AL East of all divisions.

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haplito
1 year 3 months ago

Is anybody keeping tabs on how many free agents have rebuffed the Twins this off-season? Just off the top of my head, Saltalamacchia, Pierzynski, Garza, and Santana have all turned down competitive deals from the Twins… I’d be interested to hear the inside scoop on what the league’s thinking about the state and trajectory of the franchise.

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1 year 3 months ago

They did lose 96 games last season and need quite a bit to go right to make playoff run this year. They can offer competitive money, but not necessarily a competitive team just yet though that doesn’t really explain why Salty turned them down.

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buffalonichols
1 year 3 months ago

Salty is from Florida and he pays no state income tax there. Not hard to figure out.

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Red_Line_9
1 year 3 months ago

But he pays it in whatever state he is employed that has an income tax.

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buffalonichols
1 year 3 months ago

Yes, but for half of his season, 81 games, he pays no state income tax. You don’t think that plays a part in a player’s thinking? By signing with Miami over Minnesota or Boston, he saved himself somewhere between $600,000 to $1 million or more in state taxes. That’s nothing to sneeze at.

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NomarGarciaparra
1 year 3 months ago

With different tax rates for each states, doesn’t it make an unfair environment between teams? For example, compare the same contract offered by the Yankees and by the Rangers.

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1 year 3 months ago

Baseball cannot control the tax rates, so no, it does make an unfair environment…

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NomarGarciaparra
1 year 3 months ago

With different tax rates for each states, doesn’t it make an unfair environment between teams? For example, compare the same contract offered by the Yankees and by the Rangers.

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Red_Line_9
1 year 3 months ago

Would also give TX teams an advantage. Are the property taxes making up the difference? I’m sure FL also gets quite the lodging/ amusement tax boost.

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Red_Line_9
1 year 3 months ago

I don’t think free agents trying to avoid the cold early and late weather in MN can be completely disregarded.

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Mil8Ball
1 year 3 months ago

Coming from someone who lives near Minneapolis still experiencing temps close to 0 I would not be surprised if someone didn’t want to play there.

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buffalonichols
1 year 3 months ago

I don’t know where you live, but it was upper 40s here today and supposed to hit around 50 tomorrow. And that’s from somebody who lives about 10 minutes from Target Field.

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Mil8Ball
1 year 3 months ago

Yah highs averaging about 35 over the next ten days with lows still approaching 10. 0 might have been a little too low, regardless its still not very warm for players coming from the south and there is still piles of the white stuff.

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Red_Line_9
1 year 3 months ago

I’m close to you. Not saying the weather is always a big deal…but it might be to a pitcher. Twin Cities is a great area. Always been a high # of players live there year round. I’d think the baseball side would be the larger issue.

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buffalonichols
1 year 3 months ago

I don’t know where you live, but it was upper 40s here today and supposed to hit around 50 tomorrow. And that’s from somebody who lives about 10 minutes from Target Field.

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Mil8Ball
1 year 3 months ago

Coming from someone who lives near Minneapolis still experiencing temps close to 0 I would not be surprised if someone didn’t want to play there.

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buffalonichols
1 year 3 months ago

And it doesn’t get cold in Boston? Or Chicago? Or Detroit? Or….

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Red_Line_9
1 year 3 months ago

I live in the upper Midwest… and no…no place in mlb might have as consistent cold in April or Sept as MN. Those other cities also are typically offering playoff caliber teams…or environment with Chicago. I’m also guessing typically more money. Now if Twins start winning… I’m guessing the cold weather just might be more appealing

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Sky14
1 year 3 months ago

Each had their own situation. Garza went for top dollar, Twins only offered 3 at a better aav. Pierzynski didn’t want to forgo an opportunity with the current champs and Santana is clearly delusional at this point