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Michael Scott
Giants-I think Hembree controls his own destiny despite having options. He has nothing to prove in AAA , if he pitches well he’s in, IMO. Machi as well- Bochy likes him a lot and he pitched well in 2013. That leaves the long reliever spot. Despite his rough start he still has the inside track but Huff, DePaula and rookie Escobar are now in play.
David X
Yusmeiro Petit has not been impressive at any point in his MLB career outside of a nice month or two with the Giants last year. While I watched the near perfect game with the rest of the Bay Area, I think people are letting that game color their expectations, and I don’t think he’s suddenly turned the corner on his careerlong mediocrity.
obsessivegiantscompulsive
Bochy has already said that Petit will not be judged solely by what he does this spring, that his work in Sept will be taken into consideration.
Sure, he has not been impressive before the Giants, but he was a top prospect early in his career, so he has talent. Moreover, the same could be said for Uribe, Torres, Casilla, Blanco, Vogelsong, that they were never that good before they joined the Giants. And as one THT study showed, hitters joining Bochy managed teams had on average a boost of one WAR. He helps brings the best out of players, that is why when I researched one run games, he was the only NL manager during his time to have so many games above 500 that it was statistically significantly to be over 500. On average, his teams have been four games over 500 each season, that is four extra wins per season.
And it is not like we are expecting him to be a front line starter for us, long relievers do not have to leap buildings in a single bound to have good value for a team, relative to other teams that have horrible long relievers.
David X
I would disagree that Petit was a “top prospect” early in his career. A prospect, sure, but never in the elite category. His minor league baseball-reference page says he was ranked the 46th best prospect in 2005 and 69th in 2006, but even then he was dinged for being flyball prone, and that’s held true in the majors — one homer every five(!) innings.
The THT study is interesting but not germane to this conversation. And take that one start out of Petit’s line and it is pretty unimpressive.
Michael Scott
He was impressive enough in the last quarter of 2013 to make him the front runner for the long relief/spot starter job for 2014.And aside from Escobar, who would best served to open in Fresno, Petit’s competition is weak.
NYBravosFan10
That’s sad about Delgado. I figured he be a front-line starter for sure.
stew4073
If the giants keep arias or Abreu over adrianza i will be upset. He’s young plays outstanding defense and draws walks. He’s clearly a better option with his defense youth and low cost compared to the other two that have proven they’re well below replacement.
obsessivegiantscompulsive
I totally agree, I would be upset too, but I think too many people think that Abeau has a chance to win the spot.
Just think about it, the Giants have held onto Adrianza for this long, when he finally started hitting, only to dump him based, say, on a lousy spring? And, of course, he has been hot too.
Also, if you look at Arias defensive stats, he is only good at third, while Adrianza is a defensive whiz at SS, and should be great at second and third too. Abreu would be redundant to Arias, a offensive MI utility.
I think it is his position to lose. But the Giants are never just going to hand the job over, he needs to earn it, be motivated to do well. Plus, injuries happen. Or recovery does not come. Look at Scutaro. Heck, look at Abreu last season. Or Frandsen.
So Abreu is insurance in my eyes, cheap insurance, should they cut him, or even trade.
stew4073
I would prefer Abreu and adrianza over arias and one if the two. Adrianza has the best glove and Abreu has the best bat. Arias just has a few good memories and a bigger contract.
obsessivegiantscompulsive
Love this series, lots of good info!
Chris Nystrom
How about an update on this for 2015?